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  • ...or Friday to discuss the architectural implications of incorporating CMDBf support into COSMOS
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  • ...rk for providing logic for interpreting a CMDBf query, and translating the CMDBf query to a language that the application understands. To create a data manager that does not support CMDBf query, you will need to subclass from the AbstractDataManager class, and pr
    8 KB (1,199 words) - 12:52, 4 February 2008
  • * CMDBf The following document outlines COSMOS commitment to the CMDBf standard:
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  • * In the case of COSMOS and CMDBf, we would NOT choose to expose the MDR via WS-RC. ** 3.6.4: Don't need to support meta-epr.
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  • **[[CosmosDataReportingComponent10_208593| 208593 Internationalization Support - programming model]] **[[COSMOS_Design_214145| 214145 Generic CMDBf Graph Response View]]
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  • ...ement Database Specification Federation specification (CMDBf). An MDR is a CMDBf term that represents a component that contains data about managed resources [[Image:Cosmos-cmdbf-overview.gif]]
    22 KB (3,493 words) - 15:37, 11 October 2007
  • * Working on putting together a demo of our CMDBf extensions ...ht be looking to get more involved with RM as well, given its synergy with CMDBf and their participation in the SML workgroup. '''TODO:''' Mark will look a
    24 KB (3,927 words) - 11:48, 7 November 2008
  • ...ase Federation specification and is available at the [http://www.cmdbf.org CMDBf.org] ...sign and implementation should allow the registry to be evolved to support CMDBf query and registration, and may alos use an implementation of WS-RC to stor
    9 KB (1,377 words) - 13:25, 22 August 2007
  • This page is the beginning of where we can begin our discussions on the CMDBf specification. # The CMDBf specification can be found here: http://cmdbf.org/
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  • Version 2 will support the data source types requirements of the IBM use cases. Version 3 will support the CMDBf use cases from CA and IBM.
    16 KB (1,895 words) - 11:40, 28 August 2007
  • Version ? will support the data source types requirements of the IBM use cases. Version ? will support the CMDBf use cases from CA and IBM.
    8 KB (1,023 words) - 10:52, 4 September 2007
  • ...e up with P2. This needs to be extensible so it can be expanded to add CL2 support when resources are available. ...there are some rules to abide by and we should document how much of CL1 we support within the reference implementation.
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  • ...etaining EPRs and the data required to identify them that it also needs to support EPR operational status and lifecycle events. An enhancement request will b ...s of SDMX, CMDBf, RC, SML, etc. We agreed that we need the flexibility to support multiple metadata schemas.
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  • ...register information about an MDR and its data content. In CMDBf terms, a CMDBf administrator can use WS-RC to configure MDRs and federating CMDB to commun ...WS-RC metadata registration technique can also be used to provide the same support.
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  • * We need to have a speparate discussion involving how CMDBf affects the design. ** The current design does not support having lots of endpoints (mdw: need to request clarification)
    2 KB (294 words) - 15:38, 22 August 2007
  • ...o have a component view of this b/c it does not make sense, for example to support Win2003 for the ME. * the CMDBf 1.0 schemas and WSDLs can have their boxes change from purple to green
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  • == '''Adding support for the CMDBf query service on top of the SML repository''' == |CMDBf
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  • ...ly to transform the output of the query to the desired output format (e.g. CMDBf response syntax). The request can invoke a data assembly as a long running ...ovide MDR interfaces via WSDM capabilities and utilities classes to access CMDBf query using Java APIs.
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  • ...en completed for i6. We discussed the role of the data broker relative to CMDBf and agreed that additional work will be required and that enhancement reque ...enhancement to reuse the data broker functionality when we need to deliver support for use cases that require a service broker.
    2 KB (298 words) - 12:59, 11 September 2007
  • * For i7, the project intends to focus on the CMDBf support. There will also be a need to elaborate the Management Domain and Data Bro
    1 KB (235 words) - 11:58, 18 September 2007
  • * Cosmos DC framework technology stack and support matrix ...rted platforms. We discussed creating a list of platforms that we hope to support on a best efforts basis that aren't necessarily in the core test plan.
    2 KB (297 words) - 12:06, 2 October 2007
  • ...format that a specific widget requires. This architecture will allow the support of additional output formats other than JSON. Furthermore if the input dat is required to support multiple data brokers.
    11 KB (1,868 words) - 15:18, 27 September 2007
  • == UI for the CMDBf end-to-end use case == ...explain the relationship b/t CMDBf and the data visualization fw-->add to cmdbf deliverables document
    1 KB (195 words) - 12:16, 27 September 2007
  • Bill Muldoon 10/16/2007 Added Broker/CMDBf use cases Version 2 (i7) will support the data source types requirements of the IBM use cases.
    4 KB (589 words) - 14:05, 7 November 2007
  • * https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=188390 Support for Nagios agents in data collection [[Image:Icon_checkmark.gif#file]] ...w_bug.cgi?id=208100 Create a transformation engine that is able to process CMDBf queries based on a reconciliation taxonomy scheme [[Image:Icon_checkmark.gi
    8 KB (1,132 words) - 09:37, 28 January 2008
  • |Create an example CMDBf Management Data Repository backed by a relational database [[COSMOS_Design |Broker to manage MDRs that do not support WSA and WSRF [[COSMOS_Design_220952|(design)]]
    16 KB (2,195 words) - 12:32, 7 March 2008
  • ** provide basic functionalities to support required use cases ...e (possibly with the help with toolings) to create data managers, MDRs and CMDBf query processing logic.
    7 KB (1,053 words) - 13:30, 7 December 2007
  • #Support J2EE environment ...o have the ability to take a "generic" web services call. For example, the CMDBf web services calls will not have the addressing context.
    2 KB (304 words) - 09:03, 13 November 2007
  • ...cification, the MDR would convert the incoming SOAP request containing the CMDBf query to the native API (and/or query). When a problem occurs, the Data Ma ...a management standard defines a set of faults. An example of this is the CMDBf specification. In these circumstances, it is appropriate to map an Java ex
    9 KB (1,377 words) - 11:59, 20 December 2007
  • The CMDBf specification expresses the WebServices interface to an implementation using stateless semantics. COSMOS needs to support this
    2 KB (296 words) - 09:34, 13 November 2007
  • support to make this easier. The annotations should provide support for this model in order to
    5 KB (608 words) - 09:01, 28 November 2007
  • ...ternative to WS-Addressing to provide support for CMDBf. Mark updated the CMDBf addressing bug [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=209246 209246 ...add a requirement for Joel to provide documentation of the new annotations support.
    2 KB (231 words) - 13:15, 13 November 2007
  • ..."management-style" (e.g. shot down the broker) requests, assuming we even support these, and determine what security artifacts are contained in the payload ** CMDBf Registration APIs '''(20 min)'''
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  • | An Example Federating CMDB. This MDR support registration and cmdbf query services. ...ation related to students and teachers. This MDR support registration and CMDBf query services.
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  • * CMDBf Toolkit - This should be on the agenda for tomorrow's Release Engineering m ...terday. Is there a scheme for wrapping MDRs that doesn't include any WSDM support? Yes, if we want to be able to issue a request to a Microsoft MDR, then ye
    4 KB (652 words) - 15:15, 14 December 2007
  • ...be a new module added to the CMDBf project to allow consumers to add this support. The new module will be called <b>CMDBfMetadata.jar</b> and will have a ve ...can there be other operations included in the WSDL that are not defined by CMDBf, e.g. getResourceProperties?
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  • == '''Create an example CMDBf Management Data Repository backed by a relational database ''' == The RDBMS MDR needs to support the CMDBf Query Service and CMDBf Service Metadata.
    5 KB (858 words) - 13:49, 7 March 2008
  • ...or addresses based on some constraints. In a system supporting COSMOS and CMDBf, Management Data Repositories (MDR) and federating CMDB are speialized inst ...values (such as classification, dialect and name) of data managers, and we support querying ERPs by classification value. We will improve the implementation
    12 KB (1,628 words) - 18:01, 18 January 2008
  • ...who makes use of Eclipse COSMOS project to perform some function including support resources. ...ill Muldoon, Jack Devine || [[COSMOS_UG_Introduction to CMDBf |5.0 Using CMDBf in COSMOS]] || Closed
    10 KB (1,234 words) - 16:24, 14 November 2008
  • # Support for build systems beyond the popular rpn, msi, etc. so that metadata from t ...ase or not). For Federated Applications: need Web Services port open, take CMDBf graph queries and give replies about the MDR. <br>
    28 KB (4,407 words) - 19:09, 24 March 2008
  • #** Exemplary management data repositories (MDR) that support CMDBf query service # Do we need a zip file with the "runtime" of the CMDBf
    6 KB (1,068 words) - 16:40, 27 May 2008
  • ...n cmdbf query builder will provide a convinient way for users to construct cmdbf queries. The query builder should provide extension points to allow the cu 1. Support for relationship cardinality and depth limit
    13 KB (1,861 words) - 21:49, 20 February 2008
  • ...e up with P2. This needs to be extensible so it can be expanded to add CL2 support when resources are available. <br> 3) Support for build systems beyond the popular rpn, msi, etc. so that metadata from t
    6 KB (948 words) - 23:46, 14 January 2008
  • ...think many of these, e.g. the download site, would support the idea of the CMDBf toolkit, as an example.
    7 KB (1,085 words) - 10:27, 25 March 2009
  • == ''' Provide support for adding a federating CMDB to COSMOS framework ''' == |CMDBf
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  • <instanceId>cmdbf:MdrScopedIdType</instanceId> cmdbf:MdrScopedIdType
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  • === CMDBf Registration APIs === * How do we support OSGi? This might be a 1.0 discussion, but we don't want OSGi to be a "seco
    2 KB (408 words) - 11:18, 13 February 2008
  • ...who makes use of Eclipse COSMOS project to perform some function including support resources. # Introduction to CMDBf
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  • ...p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [[CMDBf_Support | 1.2.3 Support for CMDBf]] <font size="1">[Owner: Ali Mehregani]</font><br/> ...bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[[CMDBf_Services | 2.3.1 Providing CMDBf Services]] <font size="1">[Owner: Ali Mehregani]</font><br/>
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  • * Introduction to CMDBf ...based on a subset of XML Schema 1.0. It includes Schematron and XPath 1.0 support for validating constraints. It also includes some new extensions of XML Sc
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  • ...option to bring up a web component that will allow the user to construct a CMDBf query and submit this query to the MDR. These web components are further e ===Basic CMDBf Query Dialog===
    8 KB (1,322 words) - 19:30, 5 March 2008
  • == COSMOS User's Guide Introduction to CMDBf == == What is CMDBf? ==
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  • ...ement Database Specification Federation specification (CMDBf). An MDR is a CMDBf term that represents a component that contains data about managed resources * support internationalization for configuration files
    85 KB (12,020 words) - 14:54, 1 May 2008
  • == COSMOS Development Guide Support for CMDBf ==
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  • |'''CMDBf Query Execution''' COSMOS>smlmdr query <cosmos-demo>\cosmos-client\cmdbf-queries\SMLMDR\testInstanceIdQuery.txt
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  • : Continue discussion regarding CMDBf, LIC and COSMOS integration. :* Martine is working on extending support of lower-level JDBC code to include StoragePools, Disks, Volume, Hosts. He
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  • ...OSMOS MDRs and to comply with the CMDBf standard more strictly, we want to support stateless web services in COSMOS. SOAP messages will not require WS-Addres Web service and client code can be generated from WSDL files provided by the CMDBf standard. Port type is mapped to a class, and operations are mapped to Jav
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  • ===CMDBf Query Builder Dialog=== ...the CMDBf query document structure can use this dialog box to construct a CMDBf query document instead of hand typing the document. The query builder proc
    4 KB (697 words) - 12:03, 24 June 2008
  • ...data manager toolkit designed in [[COSMOS Design 208274]] was supposed to support OSGi and J2EE. Due to time constraints in i9, only J2EE was implemented. ...ferent approach unique to WTP and we don't want to prereq WTP for the OSGi support.
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  • The data manager toolkit designed in [[COSMOS Design 208274]] provided J2EE support using capabilities from the [http://www.eclipse.org/wtp Eclipse Web Tools P * [[Providing a CMDBf Query and Registration Service]]
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  • ...OSMOS MDRs and to comply with the CMDBf standard more strictly, we want to support stateless web services in COSMOS. SOAP messages will not require WS-Addres #data binding: use existing binding in org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services
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  • Broker to manage MDRs that do not support WSA and WSRF This enhancement depends on enhancement 220949 - the support of stateless web services.
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === <td>Create an example CMDBf Management Data Repository backed by
    12 KB (1,845 words) - 13:00, 31 March 2008
  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === <td>Create an example CMDBf Management Data Repository backed by
    12 KB (1,850 words) - 13:05, 31 March 2008
  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === | align="left" | org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services.tests
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  • ** Jason to talk about synergy between CMDBf, SDD, and SML ## What will the role of CMDBf be in this space? Can we say that CMDBf is THE information model for configuration data?
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === | align="left" | org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services.tests
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  • == '''Updates to data manager toolkit to support vanilla web services''' == Notes from Hubert as to what needs to be done to support defect 224215.
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === | align="left" | org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services.tests
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === * dc.cmdbf.services = 100% pass
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  • |example cmdbf query |SML CMDBF Graph Response Viewer
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  • CMDBf Toolkit: ...eed to talk to Bjorn about whether or not we have a requirement to provide support for pervasive themes in Eclipse. Tania has sent a note to Bjorn to schedul
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === <td>Create an example CMDBf Management Data Repository backed by
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  • <td>Support logging in data managers</td> <td>Typo in package names in cmdbf.services sample</td>
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  • === [[Image:Check.gif]] CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === | align="left" | org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services.tests
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  • A developer wants to use the UI to develop a CMDBF query and to save it for re-use. Also the query can be shared. The developer can use the query builder to build the CMDBF query, and can test it out against the MDR.
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  • ...one another. The following diagram illustrates multiple users submitting CMDBf queries to a set of MDRs. There are two configuration options that are possible to support internationalization
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === | align="left" | org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services.tests
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === | align="left" | org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services.tests
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  • ...We should check with Marv and Mark to find out the DMTF schedule for the CMDBf spec and position our work accordingly. * '''SML and SML-IF Validation Support''' - This item is mainly focused on upgrading to the latest version of the
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  • * Followup on locale after collecting CA & CMDBf input (Sheldon Lee-Loy) [[How should COSMOS set locale information]] * Sheldon talked to CMDBf group
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === <td>Support logging in data managers</td>
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  • ...password, and the (graph) query string. We need to add login-id/password support to COSMOS. # Application initializes the COSMOS client CMDBf Query (or Registration) Service with the endpoint of the MDR (obtained from
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  • ...new standard. So the MDR or ferderating CMDB would need to translate the CMDBf query to another query language, or invoke an appropriate method call of th ...l databases. It is useful to come up with a set of guidelines for mapping CMDBf queries to SQL, and vice versa.
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === | align="left" | org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services.tests
    24 KB (3,675 words) - 06:20, 26 May 2008
  • ...aphical view. Users will have the option to use either one to display the CMDBf response. ...individual shapes. The end result is a static diagram with cross-browser support.
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  • === CMDBf (David Whiteman, Hubert Leung) === | align="left" | org.eclipse.cosmos.dc.cmdbf.services.tests
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  • * '''CMDBf''': David's 100% run, 100% good, but need to get status from Hubert ...SOAP 1.1 and 1.2, preregistering the data managers. Deferred: mapping the CMDBf query to SQL. Deferred until next week.
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  • * [[COSMOS_CMDBf_Query_to_SQL_Mapping| CMDBf query to SQL mapping]] (Hubert) ====Motivation for CMDBf query to SQL mapping work====
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  • <td>Update CMDBf toolkit to support new data manager properties</td> <td>Validator doesn't support baseURI in rule bindings</td>
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  • David: will test cmdbf.services.tests tomorrow morning, but don't anticipate any change in status <td>Support logging in data managers</td>
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  • <td>Support logging in data managers</td> <td>Typo in package names in cmdbf.services sample</td>
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  • <td>Support logging in data managers</td> <td>Typo in package names in cmdbf.services sample</td>
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  • * [[COSMOS CMDBf Query to SQL Mapping]] * Hubert/Bill: Iteration of the design of the CMDBf handler framework.
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  • A data manager can be an MDR or a federating CMDB. The CMDBf specification has the notion of an "MDR ID", which is a URI that can unique ...and the way we identify other data managers (those that don't support the CMDBf query service). The identifier is a URI that is globally unique. The valu
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  • <td>Support logging in data managers</td> <td>Typo in package names in cmdbf.services sample</td>
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  • ...ervice with that namespace. E.g. "Find all data managers that support the CMDBf query service" will return the list of all MDRs. ...hat manages asset data." Simply asking for data managers that support the CMDBf query service is not specific enough, and the query result may include EPRs
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  • ...: some of the COSMOS UI i18n work has been deferred, pending feedback from CMDBf folks and other arch. decisions. ...(by their silence) agreed that we are satisfied with the level of security support we have already planned for 1.0. Paul (?) will push ER to future for other
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  • * Ray Ellis of IBM: An alternate implementation of the CMDBf framework using XSLT (20 minutes) ([[COSMOS_CMDBf_Framework_XSLT_Redesign|d ==== XSLT in CMDBf framework ====
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  • |14. Executing CMDBf Queries using the command line client |Pre-defined CMDBf query for All Computer systems, executed successfully
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  • <td>Validator doesn't support baseURI in rule bindings</td> <td>Validator does not support prefix matching</td>
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  • ...y is possible. Hubert also commented on the use of the query builder that CMDBf query syntax should not be exposed in the UI. We need predefined queries t ...dles the common cases, so the end user doesn't require a full knowledge of CMDBf's model for ad-hoc queries. Discussed offline with Sheldon, and he agreed.
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  • ** Support for multiple Brokers * CMDBf framework improvements
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  • ...R/sml-if/ Service Modeling Language Interchange Format (SML-IF)] and their support in COSMOS. For a complete description, see the linked standards and COSMOS == COSMOS Support ==
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  • * figure out how we can handle support requests coming through ...o the work. Certainly if we get a new person, get them started on test and support.
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  • * CMDBf Implementation ** CMDB Federation (CMDBf) support framework
    15 KB (1,898 words) - 14:47, 2 December 2008
  • ...is that we advertise milestone for adoption but not iterations. More of a support implication to that. * stabilize CMDBf support
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  • === SML and SML-IF validation support === The following conditions need to be in place to support this use case:
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  • *CMDBf Implementation *stabilize CMDBf support
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  • ** Need to consider 1.6 for 1.1 or if not plan a 1.2/2.0 for Java 6 support late in 2009 ...CMDBf support to update to latest CMDBf level and also to incorporate FRC support.
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  • ...g_abbrev=sdd Solution Deployment Descriptor (SDD) standard on OASIS]. SDD support was previously in research status, but is expected to be fully available in * '''SML support'''
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  • = Update COSMOS to support latest CMDBf spec = Schema namespaces change from cmdbf.org to dmtf.org. '''UI: <font color=blue>1 day</font> core: <font color=re
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  • ...g_abbrev=sdd Solution Deployment Descriptor (SDD) standard on OASIS]. SDD support was previously in research status, but is now fully available in COSMOS 1.1 * '''SML support'''
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