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WTP 2008-07-31

WTP Development Status Meeting


Project Leads
Konstantin Y
Tim Y
Nitin Y
Kathy Y
Chuck Y
Kaloyan Y
Raghu Y
David Y
Helen Y
Carl Y
Dave Y
Phil Y
Larry Y
Kate Y
Angel Y
Valentin Y
Nick Y

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.

Announcements And Special Reports

WTP 3.0.1

Aug 1 - RC2
All changes after Aug 1 require PMC approval (2 votes)
Aug 8 - RC3 & final build
Aug 15 - 3.0.1 GA
  • Smoketest request to be issued, please complete smoketest by 3 PM Friday, at latest

Bug Lists for 3.0.1

PMC Approval Summary List
Blockers & Criticals (~8!)
All 3.0.1 Hotbugs (~0)
Current 3.0.1 & 2.0.1 targeted bugs (~16!)
In tabular form:
Current 3.0.1 & 2.0.1 targeted bugs (~16!)

Fixed Bugs

WOW! Congratulations!
Web Tools
Number Fixed for 3.0.1 (~236!)
Java Server Faces
Number Fixed for 3.0.1 (~2?)
Dali JPA Tools
Number Fixed for 2.0.1 (~30!)
  • Minutes:
301 PMC approval list
237141 - Chuck: patch available, performance problem, needed for 301
David: Neil had some questions on this one, already fixed in older releases, so probably should go in here, fundamental issue is a performance hit, independent issue, will check in for next week
242648 - need to confirm with JBoss before approved, leave for next week for confirmation
194047 - Phil: 1 large file, probably not for 301
228366 - Nitin: will request for 301 PMC after review
231205 - Chuck: will provide more info for Nitin to review, hoping for 301 next week
233763 - Paul: dependant on the bug that Chuck's bug, assuming Chuck's bug is fixed, then no issues
235306 - Carl: v2 WTP, not v3
241550 - Phil: trying to figure out the affects of this are. Not a critical problem
David: target to 302 or 31 if not a critical issue, if this is brought forward, then will probably need more explanation on this one, will update to major cuz doesn't sound like a critical problem
242587 - Brad: bug in JDT, platform 3.5, so should target to 3.1, no changes, close as a dup of the JDT bug
242628 - Phil: attach a patch for approval, will be submitted for PMC approval for 3.0.1
Current 301 & 201 targeted bugs
150794 - Nitin: really want this into 3.0.1, will work on this one
204397 - Carl: copyright problem for 3.0, will update
211528 - Nitin: solved for 155, will bring forward, major problem for 3.0.1
223704 - Carl: may bump this out, will move out to 302
232502 - Carl: NLS support for TVT, will submit for 301 next week
241782 - Angel: will submit patch for rewview and PMC approval
242241 - Kathy: investigating right now, may or may not be submitting this for 301
242312 - Kathy: suspecting a straight forward fix, 301 early next week
242469 - Kathy: Junit fix, nothing shipped with Junit testing

WTP 3.1


WTP 3.1 Project Plan

Bi-weekly smoketest before we declare M1

August 7th
August 21st
M1 declared on August 22nd (please complete the New and Noteworthy beforehand)


David: Konstantin brought up moving up to 3.5 platform
Konstantin: will need to pickup 3.5 platform, have checked in a couple of bugs that depends on new features in 3.5, should take advantage of them. Issue of backwards compatiblity, and is worth investigating. Architecture group to discuss.
David: No hard dependencies on 3.5 for M1, until we have this discussion.
Tim: Can have an architectural discussion on the benefits and actual cost and is it worth doing
David: will update prereqs to 3.5 to smoketest against
David: dates out here last week and haven't heard of any feedback, will pass to planning council

Two issues came up when discussing the planning process

  1. How to handle "future" milestone target? Turns out we have discussed and documented this before, see WTP_Bugs, Workflow and Conventions#The meaning of "Future" milestone target.
  2. How can we better incorporate bugs-to-fix in 3.1 planning? Subsequent to meeting, I suggested that leads/committers should set the 3.1 milestone target for bugs that ideally should be fixed in 3.1, to help "prime the pot". For example, nearly all voted on bugs and "major" bugs should be so marked. I've added more bugzilla queries to WTP 3.1 Project Plan to assist.


Adjusted schedule, based on Platform's proposed schedule.

Normally, our milestone are one week after the Platform's delivery. Exceptions noted below.

3.0.1 Early Maintenance Release Aug 15
M1 -> Aug 22 (extra week added so not to overlap maintenance release)
3.0.2 Coordinated Maintenance Release Sep 24
M2 -> Oct 3 (extra week added so not to overlap maintenance release)
M3 -> Nov 7 (short milestone, since "making up" for added week above)
M4 -> Dec 19
M5 -> Feb 6
3.0.3 Coordinated Maintenance Release Feb 25
(EclipseCon March 23-27)
M6 -> Mar 20 Feature Complete, API Freeze, UI Freeze, NLS, Accessibility
M7 -> May 8 Performance tuning, documentation, bug fixing
RC1 -> May 22 Serious bugs only, focus on stability.
RC2 -> May 29 WTP will likely not participate in an RC2, based on feedback from last year that RC2 came too soon, needed more fixing, less testing
RC3 -> Jun 5 Very serious bugs only.
RC4 -> Jun 12 Very very serious bugs only.
RC5 -> Jun 19 Hopefully no changes from RC4. Prepare web pages, update sites, etc.
GA -> Jun 24

Other business

Project leads: please fix meta-data during July. Especially, see "information about ..." from your subproject web page left nav bar.
Go to Foundation Portal
Login with committer ID
Click on "[maintain] Project Info meta-data"
Changes coming to IP Log management (more automated, but more for Project Leads to do?): See Development Resources/Automatic IP Log
In the works: Proposal to adjust bugzilla so bugzilla "products" match our subcomponents (currently have 4, need about 8?)
WTP UI Walkthroughs

Teams Status and Focus for Coming Week

Performance Team

The minutes of the meetings are posted. Next meeting is next Monday same time. See details on the wiki page: WTP Performance Tests

Source Editing

  • Ongoing triaging of incoming bug reports
  • Working on final 3.0.1 submissions
  • Deciding overall themes for 3.1

Server Tools

Web Services/WSDL

  1. Ongoing triage of incoming and existing bugs.
  2. Fixing and verifying bugs.

Java EE

JEE Status Meetings

Dali JPT

  • JPT 2.0
    • Working on:
      • EclipseLink support
      • Bugs for M7
      • Performance


  • Feature exceptions
  • Bug Fixes


  • triage/planning


In general, the minimum requirement is that if you branch a plug-in, you need to branch all the plug-ins in the corresponding map file. This is to make it easier for others to know what to load, to "be current" in a maintenance branch. It is fine to branch everything in a sub-project if you choose to, but still need to correspond to what's in a map file, and the map file should be updated to explain what it's used for. Map files can be re-organized some, if that helps make it easier to organize and understand what teams are working on what.
The names for branches should follow the pattern of 'R3_0_maintenance'. This will be the name for all 3.0.x maintenance work (not just the first, 3.0.1 maintenance work). Note that JSF and JPA code may use R2_0_maintenance, but their map files, will still be branched using R3_0_maintenance.
  • Instructions for tagging existing and new WTP wiki pages can be found at WTP's Category page; remember, we can create subcategories as well
  • This Week's Smoke Test Results
WTP Smoke Test Results R30
Information about process for milestone bugzilla line item planning has been added to the WTP Bugs, Workflow, and Conventions document.
PMC Candidate Review Request Checklist - See the updated PMC Review document with attention to the "How To Prepare a PMC Defect Candidate" section
Adopter Migration Information for WTP 2.0 - Please add any details for your component.
  • Website
Documentation on Setting up your system for Web Tools Web site development and Using Web Tools Phoenix PHP templates is on the wiki at Web Tools Web Site Development.
  • Bug Day
Monitor and participate in Bug Day if you would like.
Mark any applicable bugs with keyword "bugday", but only if you'll have a representative on hand to respond through Bugzilla or in IRC
Current WTP Bug Day bugs (~53)

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