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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 28-Feb-2007

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Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Feb 28, 2007 at 1430 UTC
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MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.


  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - (Javier Montalvo Orús n/a)
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a, Ted Williams n/a)


  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

Looking back on TM 2.0M5

  • THANKS to the entire team!
    • Kushal finished the first plan item, and made good progress on the second one
    • First actual bug discovered by a JUnit test
    • Everybody worked very focused on hi-priority things - first things first
    • Doing Release Notes was fun thanks to excellent bugzilla [api] documentation (everything captured in bugzilla)
    • Testing effort was split up among the entire team
    • Even though some fixes came late (NewConnectionWizard with hickups; Systemview IContextObject; userdoc issues due to M5; missing isv docs) we did an excellent job in testing
  • Some TM 2.0 M5 Testing statistics:
    • 94 bugs fixed for M5, including 28 API bugs (66 verified/closed, 28 not (yet) verified)
    • 79 new bugs opened during testing; of these, 33 were resolved during testing and 5 more this week - great contributions from everyone
      • only 3 duplicates and 2 WORKSFORME during testing
      • only 6 bugs reopened during testing
  • Comments:
    • DaveD - working in Airports etc. was kind of weird but fun (used "BBEdit" HTML Editor to fix issues)
    • MartinO - Free tool for checking broken links: Xenu's Link Sleuth - Run it on the internal webserver of a runnining RSE

News & Review Action Items

Martin 100% Tested, fixed & released M5. Fixed ISV docs. Fixed versions, names & copyright for features. Made SubSystemConfiguration implementations API for ssh, ftp, local. Now planning M6 and working on EclipseCon. 70%
DaveD 80% Tested build. Documentation updates. UI/Core refactoring. 100%
DaveM 50% Testing & fixing. 50%
Kushal 100% Testing & fixing EFS. want to get EFS wrapped up this week 50%
Javier 50% n/a
Ted 0% 0%
Uwe 0% Testing & fixing NewConnectionWizard. Continue fixing defects in NewConnectionWizard. 5%
Michael 20% n/a
  • Growing Communities: Robert Norton doing Launch Actions; Oliver Hardt doing EFS; 1245 downloads of RSE 1.0.1
  • Getting the APIs right

Upcoming Work

  • Regularly scheduled I-builds Thursday 600am Ottawa time;
    • Everybody to ensure HEAD is stable by Wednesday evening; Martin do a Sanity in WS on Thursday morning Salzburg time, release everything in HEAD manually; I-build prepared automatically 6am Ottawa time
    • Respin not be scheduled automatically, but on demand only
  • Tough, tight schedule till end of March (but we'll make it!) - Focus on plan items and [api] changes rather than bugfixes.
    • Changes involving user docs will be tagged [userdoc].
    • Changes involving NLS strings will be tagged [nls].
    • AI DaveD, Kushal, Javier: Review M5 assigned bugs and assign a proper target milestone. M6 if API or NL Strings are involved or it is very urgent. M7 for other urgent stuff. 2.0 otherwise.
  • Reviewing Plan items:
    • 170909 (DaveD) User Actions: EMO review started. Merging into RSE - tough part is integrating Persistence with the new Persistence Manager (3-4 days); then, testing & fixing & unittests (3-4 days); will need some help from Kushal
    • 170923 (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting: Currently highest priority for DaveD (until EMO Review is done for UA). DaveD thinks he can complete this without further help by M6.
    • 170932 (DaveD) Default Persistence Provider: will need some minor API changes, mostly additions; try to finish for M6, if things go wrong M7 is also OK
    • 170936 (DaveD) Macintosh - basically getting drag&drop working - no API - M7
      • Martin wants automated nightly unittests
      • AI Kushal: check in Toronto - only license is missing
      • AI Martin: Ping Greg Watson and Eclipse Foundation
    • 170926 (DaveM) Improve IFileService: mostly done; changing String by IPath not applicable since it may be used headless without Eclipse; Returnvalue for copy; Streams for dstore can be done by DaveM.
      • Streams on the Subsystem Layer: AI Kushal file a defect
      • Remove some of the download methods on subsystem layer, AI Kushal file a defect
    • 150498 (Javier) More service-oriented; Multiple subsystems of the same kind - any architectural limitations? DaveM: There might be extenders having problems with multiple.
      • Martin: NewConnectionWizard whould allow for "No subsystems"; DaveD: want to be able to get it back later? Martin: not necessarily
    • 170911 (Javier) Discovery - not discussed since Javier is not here
    • 170916 (Kushal) EFS - Working on it, want it wrapped up till end of the week.
    • 163820 (Kushal) Encodings - AI checkin Unit Tests for Encodings: 6 languages done, working on 3 more.
    • 170915 (Martin) Adopt 3.3 Concepts - CVS Preference going well; will need Capability support; need to get rid of Platform internal access, will need help from everyone.
    • 170922 (Martin) Optimize API / Remove obsolete API: We need to make more packages / classes internal! Will need help from everyone.
    • 170910 (Martin) Integrate TM Terminal View - May need some IHostShell API changes. May need help from DaveM.
    • 170918 (Martin) Improve SystemType and Wizard - mostly done (thanks to Uwe!), what to do with the systemType Name attribute?
      • Martin: Better use fine-granular Properties rather than the name. Subsystems to query Properties from the IHost first, with a fallback to the SystemType if not defined dynamically on the IHost. This allows for both static and dynamic (discovery!) configuration.
      • Kushal: Get rid of the name, better have Properties
      • DaveD: There is quite a lot of usage of the Name at the moment instead of ID; there might be some Persistence usage! This might require us to still keep the name for some time in order to maintain Workspace compatibility
  • Other things to keep an eye on
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API
  • Top priorities for the next two weeks:
    • Kushal - EFS, Encoding Unittests
    • DaveD - UI/Non-UI
    • DaveM - Eclipsecon, dstore streams
    • Martin - Eclipsecon, Properties action
    • Javier - Eclipsecon,
    • Michael - Terminal Performance

Other Stuff to Do

  • 1. API Improvements
    • SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands;
    • Asynchronous API/callbacks; How is the client informed about job completion?
    • IHostShell changes for Terminal;
    • 173042 (Uwe) Improved / pluggable Refresh
      • Looks positive that not too much change might be needed in RSE, will see how commercial implementation goes
  • 2. Play well with the Platform
    • retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
  • 3. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
  • 4. New Features
    • Terminal-in-rse; Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
    • Montavista shell processes subsystem: Performance improvements - DaveM?
  • 5. Cleanups
    • Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
    • Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
      • Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core
      • org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core (collapse files.core, processes.core, shells.core)
      • org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.dstore (collapse files.dstore, processes.dsore, shells.dstore)
    • Orbit bundles to be added differently
    • Unittests to run every night
    • Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
    • Copyright Year Changes
    • General code cleanup -- to do right after M5:
      • Get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif, IBM_logo.gif
      • Get rid of commented out source code
      • Get rid of unused properties (chkpii)


  • Europa Requirements
    • Avoiding non-API from other projects
      • AI Martin create bugzilla against CDT
    • Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
  • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M6) -- pretty many right now
  • Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it
  • (done) Fix N-builds (second workspace, use Ted's scripts)
  • Please continue on Compiler Warnings
  • Change Requests
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
    • DaveD: Outlook Invitations dont work on Macintosh iCal any more - no idea why

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Reassign target milestone for M5 open bugs; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; User Actions; Remove RSE Performance Logging;
  • DaveM - EclipseCon; Streams for Dstore;
  • Kushal - Reassign target milestone for M5 open bugs; [api] bugs for Subsystem Streams, get rid of unnecessarydownload methods; Check for Macintosh for Unit Tests in Toronto; EFS; Unittests for Encodings; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server
  • Martin - EclipseCon tutorial; Arrange a committer meeting at EclipseCon; Upload UA refactorings to Bugzilla; Bugzilla against CDT Internal; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
  • Javier - Reassign target milestone for M5 open bugs; Improve SD
  • Ted -
  • Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
  • Uwe - Retargetable actions, Improved Refresh

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