DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 16-Jul-2008

Meeting Title:	TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time:	Wednesday July 16, 2008 at 1600 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1100 Rochester / 1200 Toronto / 1800 Salzburg
Dial-in:	Martin to call everybody by Skype

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MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.

Invited Attendees

• IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kevin Doyle
• Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
• ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
• MontaVista - Anna Dushistova

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Attendees

• Attendees: Martin, Uwe, DaveM, Kevin, Xuan
• Regrets: Anna, DaveD, Rado, Michael, Eugene, Felix

Notes

• Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Jul-2008
• Prev meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008
• Skype Call Quality

New Stuff

• bug 240991 Startup creates Display on Worker Thread
  • DaveM: RSEUIPlugin.start() is not on the Main thread! Seems to be reproducable when Eclipse is "Restarted" rather than "Started". Issue is hit because Logger is instantiated from RSEUIPlugin.start(), registers Preference / ModelChangeEvent, which leads to DaveD's workaround for bug 227750 to fail
  • Martin: How is the backtrace (Restart) created? Even the intended fix (using a non-UI IRSEInteractionProvider) would not fix this
  • Uwe: Swing/SWT Integration? Is any plugin directly using Bundle.loadClass? That's dangerous since it changes the startlevel
  • Martin: Could instantiation of the Logger be deferred from RSEUIPlugin.start() to somewhere else (later)?
  • People are concerned about using Display.getDefault() -- using IWorkbench.getDisplay() is recommended instead (or, use PlatformUI.isWorkbenchRunning())
  • AI DaveM Comment on Bugzilla what is done in the debuggee to get the backtrace on StartLevelEventThread (Martin cannot reproduce)
  • AI DaveM Try to instantiate the Logger later, or at least try deferring addition of the ModelChangeListeners
  • AI Martin Write the real fix (interaction providers) mid August

• bug 240998 Extension Point for User Actions
  • Kevin: EP used to add compile commands -- will eventually want to get rid of this extension point, will look at workarounds - AI Kevin mark bug as INVALID or WONTFIX

• bug 238574 Website Revamp
  • AI Martin ask the Community (Remy, Nick)

• Unittests
  • Martin added "soft disable" capability for Unittests -- when writing new tests, please add the if(isTestDisabled()) return;
  • Multi-Target: RSEFileStoreTest and FileServiceTest;
  • Xuan: Kevin trying some Abbot stuff, might contribute -- Abbot is under CPL
  • AI Martin New build driver -- deadline Jul/31
  • Xuan: Want to release themselves
    • AI Martin Add M-build Cronjob for Tue 0600 Ottawa time
    • Relengtool: Download
    • AI Xuan Release yourself - Process: Select plugins to release, right-click > Team > Release Be sure to not release inconsistent stuff, i.e. fixes that depend on other stuff that you're not releasing
  • bug 230917 [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- AI Xuan look at
  • New Build System due Jul 31 (AI Martin)

• Findbugs and other cleanup
  • Broken Links in Docs: Xenu's LinkSleuth
  • Xuan: DVT, bug 240940, bug 240972 high priority fixes - AI DaveM address

• 3.1 Plan
  • Martin marked some bugzilla items with "plan" keyword
  • AI Everyone attach "plan" keyword to "interesting" i.e. larger or important bugs, until end July
  • DSDP presentation to the Board on Sep 17, IBM wants to review the draft, AI Martin check, AI Xuan check deadline

Vacation, away

• Martin vacation Jul 21-22, on and off on Thurs and Fri Jul 17-18
• DaveM vacation first week of August
• DaveD in July
• Anna in July

Action Items

• Last Meeting Action Items
• Everyone: attach "plan" keyword to "interesting" bugs for 3.1 until end July
• Anna:
• DaveD:
• DaveM: bug 240991: comment on bug how the backtrace is created in the debugger, try registering logger events later; DVT bug 240940, bug 240972 fix; old: commit bug 199596; bug 233480 - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension
• Kevin: bug 240998 compile commands extension point mark INVALID or WONTFIX
• Xuan: Get Releng tool and release fixes yourself for bi-weekly M-builds; check deadline for PMC Board Presentation review; old Look at bug 230917 Archive Handler Unittests
• Martin: Cronjob for Tue 0600 M-builds; bug 238574 Website ask for Community Help; new Builder until end July; bug 227750 Display in non-UI write fix until mid August; old Run performance tests for bug 233461; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Update Project Plan; File new bug for bug 165171; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan
• Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
• Michael: Terminal: Work on bug 185348 Terminal API
• Uwe: -
• Rado: -
• Felix: -
• Eugene: -

Next Meeting

• Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Aug-2008 (3 weeks) at 9am PST / 1600 UTC
• DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Aug-2008 (5 weeks) at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1700 Salzburg