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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008

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Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Monday June 9, 2008 at 1600 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1100 Rochester / 1200 Toronto / 1800 Salzburg
Dial-in: Martin to call everybody by Skype

Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.

Invited Attendees

  • IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
  • ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
  • MontaVista - Anna Dushistova

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).


New Stuff

  • DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede
    • We have RC3, so from now on EVERY checkin must get a +1 by two reviewers BEFORE (except emergencies, documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF
    • Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale
  • TM 3.0 RC2 Testing Status (as per yesterday's E-Mail)
    • Test Configurations -- especially for bug 231453 from cross-project list
      • TM installed into Eclipse 3.4 dropins/ -- That's what we always do
      • TM installed into Eclipse 3.3. -- Martin has target platform against 3.3 now
      • TM as part of the JEE Package -- AI DaveD, or Kevin; AI Martin tell Dave when JEE has TM RC3
      • TM initial install from TM Update Site -- Martin
      • Ganymede TM initial install from Ganymede --
        • Dependencies: When Remotecdt / Discovery selected, CDT / EMF must be installed automatically
        • DaveD: Quicktest on official Ganymede Site with RC2 (today), RC3 again when available
      • Update Scenarios
        • Updating 3.0 to 3.0.1 -- referencing TM site, not Gany site -- 3.0RC3 to I-build -- AI Martin
        • Updating TM 2.0 to 3.0 -- Eclipse 3.3/TM 2.0 (including discovery, cdt), use TM 3.0 update site, update to TM 3.0 -- AI Martin
    • Test Areas
      • Connection Import / Export -- AI Xuan
      • Documentation: Correct hyperlinks
      • Feature Versions, About Files, ...

Hot Bugs being discussed

  • bug 233461 Refresh expanded Folders -- IFileService#list to return children and parent in one step, how to be API compatible?
    • DaveM: Not in favor of changing API, don't expect getFile() to be expensive, Cache in Service Layer. Against explicit API change. Plain semantic change is the least of the evils.
    • Martin against Caching on Service Layer.
    • Original bug as specified must be fixed - want the fix in there as soon as possible, because it fixes IRemoteFile problems
    • AI Martin can easily adapt unittests to run performance metrics
    • Split up the bug: Original bug 233461 for the original problem only, include a small patch WITHOUT API change but with unittests. Create a new bug for the API Changes / Preformance Improvements, with the 2nd part of the patch. Discuss API separately. Original bug to be committed into an I-build today. AI Martin and Dave to hook up on Skype later today.
  • bug 235600 Downrev ftp, local, ssh, telnet features to 2.1.0 was intentional!
  • bug 235221 Files truncated on exit of Eclipse -- AI DaveD prioritize bug
  • bug 199596 [refresh][ftp] Changing a file/folder's Read-Only attribute doesn't always update IRemoteFile -- is it fixed now? -- patch not yet committed?
  • bug 234038 [files][refresh] Changing file permissions does not update property sheet or refresh tree -- is it fixed? -- patch not yet committed? -- AI DaveM create new bug for Tableview
  • bug 235145 Remove Create Project Action -- DaveD: Document the process of creating a remote project, but get rid of the action? - Martin: See FAQ,
    • Decision: Action is not ready for products, therefore remove it now or allow to programmatically disable it
  • bug 234026 [apidoc] IFileService#createFolder() does not specify whether parent folders are created
    • Update Service Docs and Impl to make the Service create parent folders
  • bug 227750 [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems -- DaveD: Sounds like should be deferred to 3.1
  • bug 230917 [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- AI Xuan look at, probably move to 3.0.1 during weekend

Plan for Next Steps

  • Bug Triage
    • AI Everyone must review your assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 where possible
    • All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes)
    • Work on remaining ones by priority
    • Open RC2 Assigned bugs, open 3.0 Assigned bugs
    • Severity Major, Hi-Priority
    • Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 8 major (DaveD, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 23 other P2's -- was 10 major / 20 P2's last week
    • Community contributions: Only few unapplied patches right now, last chance to apply now before 3.0 (see also the Bug Process Page for a query)
  • Martin's new Build System for Dave
    • In the works
  • New and Noteworthy
    • I'll need a list of new features for a New&Noteworthy, and for the Release Review. Release Review material is due next week.
    • See CDT/User/NewIn50 for example; for TM, I put most news into our Build Notes already, so it should be possible to compile the N&N out of the build notes
    • For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g.
      • Useractions
  • Cleanup Work
    • Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do. What do we consider must-have's?
      • Unittests, unittests, unittests!
      • New releng scripts on (Martin: must-have before his vacation)
      • Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool)
      • Migration Notes (for 2.0 / for 1.0?)
      • API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - bug 227368, bug 225529 comment 4 and bug 225529 comment 6 - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
      • Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
      • Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing, unclear, duplicated
      • Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
      • Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
      • Add more Unittests -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
      • Run Findbugs -- Update site on, Quickdocs by Rado in tm-dev E-Mail
        • Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss link
    • TM Website: revamp should really be complete for Ganymede! Kevin and Martin won't have time. DaveD will try to get to it, but cannot promise.


  • DaveD context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: bug 208062

Old Stuff

  • Unit Tests - next priority after API
  • Migrating to new Releng on (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc)
  • Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
    • Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
    • Current situation is on this bugzilla report

Vacation, away

  • Martin vacation June 11 - 22 -- AI Martin finish and test the new Build scripts on till then
  • DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
  • DaveD in July

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • Everyone:
    • Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 / 3.1 what we can
    • Add @noextend etc according to DSDP/TM/Code Ownership table;
    • Update the New&Noteworthy (Martin will send a separate E-Mail)
    • Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests
  • DaveD: Test initial install of RC2 from Ganymede (CDT, EMF dependencies!); Test JEE package (when available as RC3); Prioritize bug 235221; Commit bug 234215; Prepare EFS Userdocs along the lines of TM and RSE FAQ#Why is the Outline View empty when editing a remote PHP or C file?
  • DaveM: Commit bug 199596, bug 234038; File new bug for tableview issue; work with Martin on bug 233461; bug 233480 - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension
  • Kevin: -
  • Rupen: -
  • Xuan: Text Import/Export; Look at bug 230917 Archive Handler Unittests
  • Martin: Run performance tests for bug 233461; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Tell DaveD when JEE RC3 is ready; Prepare I-build for bug 233461 when done; Update Project Plan; File new bug for bug 165171; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan
  • Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
  • Michael: Terminal: Try to fix bug 185348, bug 204796
  • Uwe: -
  • Rado: -
  • Felix: -
  • Eugene: -

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