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= Feb 3, 2016 (PMC Call) =
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= Feb 1, 2017 (WG Call)=
  
 
== Participants ==
 
== Participants ==
  
* Julien
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*Dan Gross, Samsung
* Jens
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*James Sutton, IBM
* Benjamin
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*David Bericat, Red Hat
* Ian
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*Laurent Lagosanto, MicroEJ
* Mahdi
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*Roxanne Joncas, Eclipse Foundation
* Ian C
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*Benjamin Cabé, Eclipse Foundation
* Virgil
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*Brad Micklea, Codenvy
* Guillaume
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== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
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=== Eclipse IoT Testbeds: review strategy and next steps. ===
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Work on a set of industry oriented (vertical solutions) to showcase a technical solution and showcase the Eclipse projects and vendor ecosystem.
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Eclipse IoT Members working together to set-up the testbed and create a demo that runs 24/7 on the Eclipse servers
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More details: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nmdi-cmw_O-7W2qZKRHMN-3gw0WHxE75llcV0nMhS-U/edit?usp=sharing
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Proposed Testbed scenario around Asset Tracking Management: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KF7yxv5Dnk6b2a574HPtU5pHR5q7wvsT4skKjGDz1Q4/edit?usp=sharing
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There are many options for collaboration
  
* '''Review IoT WG Strategy for 2016'''. Based on the wiki page at [1], it would be great to get your input as to what should be the priorities for this year from a PMC standpoint. Feel free to annotate the wiki page or provide feedback on the mailing list ahead of the call.
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*Dan Gross: Samsung interested in participating - Kura gateway using ARTIK.
* '''Project plans'''. What is your project's roadmap for 2016? Let's try and identify possible areas of collaboration between projects, needs in terms of community outreach, and in general make sure that each project's agenda is duly publicized.  
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*Laurent Lagosanto: Potential use case for Eclipse Edje.  
* '''IoT Summit'''. Review agenda for the unconference and overall IoT activities at EclipseCon NA.
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*David Bericat: Excited and look forward to working with everyone.
* '''IoT Developer Survey'''. Review final draft.
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== IoT Strategy ==
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'''Next Steps''': Stay tuned, we will be updating the group at large and scheduling individual meetings.
  
* Recruiting projects: we need to recruit projects with '''existing communities'''
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=== 2. MQTT 5: Update from Ian Craggs / James Sutton on what’s in MQTT 5 and the expected impact on Eclipse Paho / Mosquitto and downstream adopters. ===
* LoRaWAN? Concerns about IP/openness.
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'''Big set of changes:'''
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*Use of the publish/subscribe message pattern which provides one-to-many message distribution and decoupling of applications.
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*A messaging transport that is agnostic to the content of the payload.
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*Three qualities of service for message delivery:
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**At most once", where messages are delivered according to the best efforts of the operating environment. Message loss can occur. This level could be used, for example, with ambient sensor data where it does not matter if an individual reading is lost as the next one will be published soon after.
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**At least once", where messages are assured to arrive but duplicates can occur.
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**"Exactly once", where messages are assured to arrive exactly once. This level could be used, for example, with billing systems where duplicate or lost messages could lead to incorrect charges being applied.
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*A small transport overhead and protocol exchanges minimized to reduce network traffic.
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*A mechanism to notify interested parties when an abnormal disconnection occurs.
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'''Notes from the meeting:'''
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*Any request sent (and reply received) can have embedded metadata. This will be used for e.g letting a publisher know about *what* happened to the packet in addition to just acknowledging it
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**The CONNECT packet can contain information regarding what QoS are supported by the server
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**Supporting QoS 2 on the server is not mandatory anymore
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**Scalability
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*It will affect the Paho client and so a new Paho client will be created.
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**Improve API
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**Feedback from community
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**Work nicely with the new MQTT 5 features
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*The complete move will take a while, MQTT 3 will not go away anytime soon. It will be a parallel process. The previous versions of the client will be maintained. Some users might choose to use MQTT 3 since it’s more lightweight.
  
* Just like we have CQs to identify "legal" and "licensing" issues, EF could provide a service to '''provide security analysis for Eclipse IoT projects'''
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'''IMPORTANT:''' Get your feedback in as soon as possible, because in a few months it will be finalized, so review the specifications. View working draft 10 dated January 4: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?num_per_wg=10&wg_abbrev=mqtt
** an issue might be that most of the tools available out there are commercial/proprietary tools
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* Other communities/projects we may want to reach out to:
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=== 3. PMC topics: project documentation, build machines, Docker, … ===
** openMUC.org - smart grid / smart home. C/C++ based. Involved with Fraunhofer ISE institute
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Skipped this item - not enough PMC members on the call
** HyperCAT
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* Should we update iot.eclipse.org website with more "generic" IoT content?
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=== 4. Misc. updates ===
** No consensus on that point
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*WG Meeting at the Eclipse IoT Day San Jose Add your project for project update or intro: https://wiki.eclipse.org/EclipseIoT_SanJose2017
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*IoT Developer Survey Test it and give us feedback! It will go live next week. https://www.surveymonkey.net/r/Preview/?sm=PpPJLkX2kyFIkd4FpbfnijKgtSau8CTbzClUcIqMOv8UHpkGU6kxWrpBNJfYHpzC
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*Member companies are encouraged to ask for a special link that they can use to promote the survey to their communities, and have access to answers based on this segment.
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Open IoT Challenge: we will schedule a live hangout for project leads to answer any technical questions the participant may have. https://iot.eclipse.org/open-iot-challenge/
  
* Do we want to have a common IoT download page?
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= Feb 15, 2017 (WG Call) =
** No consensus on that point
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* Have each projects produce a getting started that can be featured on EclipseIoT. Use a common format/script – EF/Benjamin to provide guidance.
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== Participants ==
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*Kai Kreuzer, Deutsche Telekom
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*Jens Reimann, Red Hat
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*Dejan Bosanac, Red Hat
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*Gerald Glocker, Bosch SI
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*Shuai li, CEA-LIST
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*Roxanne Joncas, Eclipse Foundation
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*Ian Skerrett, Eclipse Foundation
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*Benjamin Cabé, Eclipse Foundation
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*Dave Woodard, Eurotech
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*Ian Craggs, IBM
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*Kilton Hopkins, IOTRACKS
  
* Jens Reimann to provide some input regarding using Mattermost for helping project collaboration (e.g one single entry point to forums, twitter, IRC channels, etc of your project)
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== Agenda ==
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===Presentation new project proposal: Eclipse Ditto (Digital Twins) ===
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'''Presenter: Gerald Glocker, Bosch SI'''
  
== Project plans ==
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Bosch will be proposing a new project called “Eclipse Ditto” soon for managing state of Digital Twins. Hopefully the proposal will be made next week.
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The Ditto Project will be a mediator between IoT Devices and the state of their Digital Twins. 
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Digital Twin is not really a fixed term. Bosch views Digital Twin as is a holistic view of all capabilities and aspects of a device/product asset including its digital representation.
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Ultimate goal is to use the digital twin as a service. There would be a higher level API to work with individual devices and you wouldn’t have to know what is happening in the background. The plan is to integrate with Eclipse Vorto and Eclipse Kapua.
  
* Project metadata: the value you get out of it is pretty low (it's hard to visually parse it).
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Read the one-page: https://wiki.eclipse.org/File:Ditto_Project.png
* On iot.eclipse.org/projects, can we try to add a quick "CONTACT the project" button and a glance at the PROJECT PLAN?
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** problem is many projects don't have up-to-date metadata in the first place!
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* There seems to be an agreement that best way to get an update on a project roadmap is to get in touch with the project team. EF expresses concerns about the fact that it does not really scale up, and "pushing" the information such as next release date and scope to your community is often very valuable.
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*Questions:
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Can changes to the state be made on the device of the twin, or is it only one way? The state of the device could be in both directions. Changes to the state on the device or the digital twin would change the state of the other one.
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A twin is not necessarily 1:1 device, a twin can represent many things (device + JVM + …)
  
== EclipseCon ==
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Project Proposal: https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-ditto
  
* The WG will have a F2F meeting to discuss project updates and overall roadmap.
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=== Presentation by CEA-List on Model Design Environment for IoT ===
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'''Presenter: Shuai li CEA-List'''
  
== Developer Survey ==
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*Slides: https://wiki.eclipse.org/File:S3P-IoTModelingExecution_CEA_Primstech_MicroEJ-final.pdf
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*Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JqAPRH0bfU
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*For more details, contact Shuai li from CEA-List.
  
* Ian is finalizing the questions for the IoT Developer Survey 2016 that will be done in collaboration with AGILE European Project and IEEE.
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=== Update on Testbeds ===
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'''Presenter Benjamin Cabé'''
  
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Testbeds aim to showcase the software stack available from our open source projects, as well as the various offers that the WG members provide on top if it (cloud solutions, analytics platforms, hardware, integration services, …).
  
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The first testbed will be a solution for Asset Tracking Management, more specifically tracking the delivery of valuable parcels. The end-to-end solution will comprise embedded sensors that can be attached to the parcels to monitor e.g temperature or vibration, IoT gateways in order to collect the sensor data (for example inside the delivery truck), process it, and report it to a cloud backend where it can be further analyzed, or made available to 3rd party apps. Members currently participating: Red Hat + Eurotech
  
= Archives =
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A wiki page describes the solution https://wiki.eclipse.org/IoT/Testbeds/Asset_Tracking_Management and will be completed as other members jump on the train to extend the code scenario with their respective solutions.
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The code to replicate and demonstrate the testbed will be shared through https://github.com/eclipselabs/eclipseiot-testbed-assettracking.
  
== 2015 ==
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Participation to the testbeds is open to any member of the IoT WG, and more details on the overall strategy are available at https://goo.gl/UeDekI.
  
[[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2015 Archives]]
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=== Eclipse IoT Day in San Jose and Unconference ===
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'''Presenter: Ian Skerrett'''
  
== 2014 ==
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We’re looking for use-case type speakers to present how their company uses Eclipse IoT projects. Last year at ECE 2016 we had a speaker from the Deutsche Bahn train system explain how Eclipse Paho and MQTT are used in their train systems.
  
[[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2014 Archives]]
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Ideally the speaker would be from the Bay area since this is short notice. Please let us know if you know anyone that could be a good candidate.
  
== 2013 ==
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=== Eclipse Leshan Press Release ===
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'''Presenter: Ian Skerrett'''
  
[[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2013 Archives]]
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Today, February 15, we issued a press release about Eclipse Leshan and Eclipse Waakama “Eclipse IoT Announces Support for OMA LightweightM2M 1.0 Device Management Standard” Read it here: http://www.eclipse.org/org/press-release/20170215_lwm2m.php
  
== 2012 ==
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=== IoT World plans ===
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'''Presenter: Ian Skerrett'''
  
[[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2012 Archives]]
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Eclipse IoT will have a booth at IoT World and would like to coordinate with other members. We won’t be doing the pavilion since not enough members wanted to participate, but we will get in touch soon to partner with interested members, such as IOTRACKS, that showed interest in participating.
  
== 2011 ==
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=== IoT Developer Survey ===
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'''Presenter: Roxanne Joncas'''
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On February 7, we launched the third annual IoT Developer Survey. Please take the time to complete the survey and to share it with your coworkers and community.
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*Link to promote/share: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/iotsurvey2017eclipseiot
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*Graphic for promotion: https://wiki.eclipse.org/File:Iotsurveypartners.png
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= Archives =
  
[[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2011 Archives]]
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* [[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2016 Archives]]
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* [[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2015 Archives]]
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* [[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2014 Archives]]
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* [[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2013 Archives]]
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* [[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2012 Archives]]
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* [[IoT/M2MIWG/Weekly call minutes/2011 Archives]]

Revision as of 10:11, 20 February 2017

The Internet of Things Industry Working Group is holding bi-weekly calls on Wednesdays, at 12pm ET.
Participation to these calls is restricted to members of the IWG, but the minutes are public. We alternate between marketing-focused calls (upcoming events coordination, community outreach, etc.), and technical calls mostly targeting project leads, to synchronize cross-project activities.

The meetings are held via teleconference. The regular call-in numbers are shown below (if possible, please used caller paid numbers). There are a few local / toll-free dial in numbers, but you may want to setup a SIP client on your computer if possible.

  • North America 1-866-569-4992
  • Germany 49-692-2224-6059
  • France 33-(0)-17-070-8535
  • UK 0800-033-7806
  • Switzerland 41-44-580-2115
  • Sweden 46-85-063-8386
  • Italy 003-902-3604-8268

Participant conference extension: 713, then enter pin 68764

SIP clients can call 713@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 68764.


Feb 1, 2017 (WG Call)

Participants

  • Dan Gross, Samsung
  • James Sutton, IBM
  • David Bericat, Red Hat
  • Laurent Lagosanto, MicroEJ
  • Roxanne Joncas, Eclipse Foundation
  • Benjamin Cabé, Eclipse Foundation
  • Brad Micklea, Codenvy

Agenda

Eclipse IoT Testbeds: review strategy and next steps.

Work on a set of industry oriented (vertical solutions) to showcase a technical solution and showcase the Eclipse projects and vendor ecosystem. Eclipse IoT Members working together to set-up the testbed and create a demo that runs 24/7 on the Eclipse servers More details: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nmdi-cmw_O-7W2qZKRHMN-3gw0WHxE75llcV0nMhS-U/edit?usp=sharing Proposed Testbed scenario around Asset Tracking Management: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KF7yxv5Dnk6b2a574HPtU5pHR5q7wvsT4skKjGDz1Q4/edit?usp=sharing There are many options for collaboration

  • Dan Gross: Samsung interested in participating - Kura gateway using ARTIK.
  • Laurent Lagosanto: Potential use case for Eclipse Edje.
  • David Bericat: Excited and look forward to working with everyone.

Next Steps: Stay tuned, we will be updating the group at large and scheduling individual meetings.

2. MQTT 5: Update from Ian Craggs / James Sutton on what’s in MQTT 5 and the expected impact on Eclipse Paho / Mosquitto and downstream adopters.

Big set of changes:

  • Use of the publish/subscribe message pattern which provides one-to-many message distribution and decoupling of applications.
  • A messaging transport that is agnostic to the content of the payload.
  • Three qualities of service for message delivery:
    • At most once", where messages are delivered according to the best efforts of the operating environment. Message loss can occur. This level could be used, for example, with ambient sensor data where it does not matter if an individual reading is lost as the next one will be published soon after.
    • At least once", where messages are assured to arrive but duplicates can occur.
    • "Exactly once", where messages are assured to arrive exactly once. This level could be used, for example, with billing systems where duplicate or lost messages could lead to incorrect charges being applied.
  • A small transport overhead and protocol exchanges minimized to reduce network traffic.
  • A mechanism to notify interested parties when an abnormal disconnection occurs.

Notes from the meeting:

  • Any request sent (and reply received) can have embedded metadata. This will be used for e.g letting a publisher know about *what* happened to the packet in addition to just acknowledging it
    • The CONNECT packet can contain information regarding what QoS are supported by the server
    • Supporting QoS 2 on the server is not mandatory anymore
    • Scalability
  • It will affect the Paho client and so a new Paho client will be created.
    • Improve API
    • Feedback from community
    • Work nicely with the new MQTT 5 features
  • The complete move will take a while, MQTT 3 will not go away anytime soon. It will be a parallel process. The previous versions of the client will be maintained. Some users might choose to use MQTT 3 since it’s more lightweight.

IMPORTANT: Get your feedback in as soon as possible, because in a few months it will be finalized, so review the specifications. View working draft 10 dated January 4: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?num_per_wg=10&wg_abbrev=mqtt

3. PMC topics: project documentation, build machines, Docker, …

Skipped this item - not enough PMC members on the call

4. Misc. updates

Open IoT Challenge: we will schedule a live hangout for project leads to answer any technical questions the participant may have. https://iot.eclipse.org/open-iot-challenge/

Feb 15, 2017 (WG Call)

Participants

  • Kai Kreuzer, Deutsche Telekom
  • Jens Reimann, Red Hat
  • Dejan Bosanac, Red Hat
  • Gerald Glocker, Bosch SI
  • Shuai li, CEA-LIST
  • Roxanne Joncas, Eclipse Foundation
  • Ian Skerrett, Eclipse Foundation
  • Benjamin Cabé, Eclipse Foundation
  • Dave Woodard, Eurotech
  • Ian Craggs, IBM
  • Kilton Hopkins, IOTRACKS

Agenda

Presentation new project proposal: Eclipse Ditto (Digital Twins)

Presenter: Gerald Glocker, Bosch SI

Bosch will be proposing a new project called “Eclipse Ditto” soon for managing state of Digital Twins. Hopefully the proposal will be made next week. The Ditto Project will be a mediator between IoT Devices and the state of their Digital Twins. Digital Twin is not really a fixed term. Bosch views Digital Twin as is a holistic view of all capabilities and aspects of a device/product asset including its digital representation. Ultimate goal is to use the digital twin as a service. There would be a higher level API to work with individual devices and you wouldn’t have to know what is happening in the background. The plan is to integrate with Eclipse Vorto and Eclipse Kapua.

Read the one-page: https://wiki.eclipse.org/File:Ditto_Project.png

  • Questions:

Can changes to the state be made on the device of the twin, or is it only one way? The state of the device could be in both directions. Changes to the state on the device or the digital twin would change the state of the other one. A twin is not necessarily 1:1 device, a twin can represent many things (device + JVM + …)

Project Proposal: https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-ditto

Presentation by CEA-List on Model Design Environment for IoT

Presenter: Shuai li CEA-List

Update on Testbeds

Presenter Benjamin Cabé

Testbeds aim to showcase the software stack available from our open source projects, as well as the various offers that the WG members provide on top if it (cloud solutions, analytics platforms, hardware, integration services, …).

The first testbed will be a solution for Asset Tracking Management, more specifically tracking the delivery of valuable parcels. The end-to-end solution will comprise embedded sensors that can be attached to the parcels to monitor e.g temperature or vibration, IoT gateways in order to collect the sensor data (for example inside the delivery truck), process it, and report it to a cloud backend where it can be further analyzed, or made available to 3rd party apps. Members currently participating: Red Hat + Eurotech

A wiki page describes the solution https://wiki.eclipse.org/IoT/Testbeds/Asset_Tracking_Management and will be completed as other members jump on the train to extend the code scenario with their respective solutions. The code to replicate and demonstrate the testbed will be shared through https://github.com/eclipselabs/eclipseiot-testbed-assettracking.

Participation to the testbeds is open to any member of the IoT WG, and more details on the overall strategy are available at https://goo.gl/UeDekI.

Eclipse IoT Day in San Jose and Unconference

Presenter: Ian Skerrett

We’re looking for use-case type speakers to present how their company uses Eclipse IoT projects. Last year at ECE 2016 we had a speaker from the Deutsche Bahn train system explain how Eclipse Paho and MQTT are used in their train systems.

Ideally the speaker would be from the Bay area since this is short notice. Please let us know if you know anyone that could be a good candidate.

Eclipse Leshan Press Release

Presenter: Ian Skerrett

Today, February 15, we issued a press release about Eclipse Leshan and Eclipse Waakama “Eclipse IoT Announces Support for OMA LightweightM2M 1.0 Device Management Standard” Read it here: http://www.eclipse.org/org/press-release/20170215_lwm2m.php

IoT World plans

Presenter: Ian Skerrett

Eclipse IoT will have a booth at IoT World and would like to coordinate with other members. We won’t be doing the pavilion since not enough members wanted to participate, but we will get in touch soon to partner with interested members, such as IOTRACKS, that showed interest in participating.

IoT Developer Survey

Presenter: Roxanne Joncas

On February 7, we launched the third annual IoT Developer Survey. Please take the time to complete the survey and to share it with your coworkers and community.


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