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Difference between revisions of "DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 16-Aug-2006"

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** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
 
** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
 
* Latest News
 
* Latest News
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** Martin --  
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** Martin -- Added Mutex; I-builds fixed; Discussions with Buckminster; Simple renamings
−
** DaveD --  
+
** DaveD -- Signon without password
−
** DaveM --  
+
** DaveM -- Some hi-pri bugs fixed
−
** Kushal --  
+
** Kushal -- Refactorings checked in;
 
** Javier -- vacation
 
** Javier -- vacation
 
** Other News --
 
** Other News --
−
* Urgent work to do
+
* Upcoming Work
−
** Bug Work
+
** '''What can we achieve till release?'''
−
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&cmdtype=doit P1 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs]
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*** 111 bugs open, not counting enhancements (See "Reporter vs. Severity" on the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process page])
 +
*** 3 P1 bugs, 17 P2 bugs open - most of them since 4 weeks (See "Assignee vs. Priority" on the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process page])
 +
*** Team Support is almost totally broken and mostly untested
 +
*** > 700 Javadoc errors (Preferences > Compiler > Javadoc > Report errors, Missing tags)
 +
**** To be fixed manually!
 +
**** Get rid of implementation comments (reference to interface comments instead) wherever possible
 +
*** 5 weeks = 25 days until RC0; 4 weeks = 20 days after, for "planned & coordinated testing + fixing"
 +
*** bugfix rate to-date is 1 "hard" one or 3 "easy" ones per day
 +
*** What do we expect from M4? -> Growing community by a stable release available through Update Manager
 +
*** What do we expect from 1.0? -> Growing community by something reliable to base on
 +
**** Will need to communicate intended refactorings between 1.0 and 2.0 early
 +
**** Keep the [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page up-to-date
 +
** '''Refactorings'''
 +
*** [cleanup] vs. [refactoring] in commit comments
 +
*** Who's maintaining MikeB's Change Map ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150548 bug 150548])
 +
*** Discuss before implement
 +
*** SubSystemConfiguration -> SubSystemFactory?
 +
**** 248 matches for "SystemFactory" (case insensitive, not whole word) - extension points, docs, local variables
 +
**** 963 matches for "factory" (case sensitive, whole word) - 548 of these in comments
 +
**** 141 matches for "factories" (case sensitive, whole word) - 61 of these in comments
 +
**** Java search: 50 declarations of "*SubSystemConfiguration*" types
 +
**** Ultimate goals:
 +
***** separate the factory from the configuration, such that ISVs that re-use an existing factory can only implement the configuration but not the factory
 +
***** allow headless launch, connect and use of services through a UI-less extension point for (factory? configuration?)
 +
*** Mutex: which package to move to?
 +
*** Shell Parsers: which package to move to?
 
** API Things
 
** API Things
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*** Parallel Services --> see [[RSE API Discussion]], [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Jul-2006|Meeting 19-Jul-2006 Notes]].
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*** '''Service Error Reporting''' - [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=149472 bug 149472] - DaveD
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*** Other "Big Rock" API issues
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*** '''Parallel Services''' - Martins Mutex to be applied to FTP; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142478 bug 142478] all queries in background - DaveM
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*** Making stuff '''internal'''
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*** '''SystemRegistry.createHost''' for Javier
 +
**** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 bug 150168] dont commit immediately - DaveD
 +
**** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150265 bug 150265] allow specifying subsystem types - DaveM
 +
*** Making stuff '''internal''' - ssh, ftp: Martin
 
*** Obsolete API that's in the Platform now (ActionSets, rseConfigDefaults) --> See [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page
 
*** Obsolete API that's in the Platform now (ActionSets, rseConfigDefaults) --> See [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page
 +
** '''Bug Work - please observe priorities'''
 +
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&cmdtype=doit P1 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs]
 
** Legal: JUnit (Some IBM signoffs needed, but not too hard); Jakarta-commons (TBD aug.24 latest); WR Terminalview
 
** Legal: JUnit (Some IBM signoffs needed, but not too hard); Jakarta-commons (TBD aug.24 latest); WR Terminalview
 
* Other items
 
* Other items

Revision as of 06:03, 16 August 2006

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Aug 16, 2006 at 8.30am Rochester / 9.30am Toronto / 2.30pm London / 3.30pm Salzburg
Skype Dial-in: +99008275601400 (this call is free from Skype)
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Austria: 0820 400 01562 (national call charges)
In UK: 0870 119 2350 (national call charges)

Passcode: 5601400

Fixed-line fallback dial-in:

  • International +1 314-655-1411
  • North America +1 877-422-0035 (toll free)
  • Passcode: 764918

Attendees

  • IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
  • (Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús - vacation)
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber

Agenda

  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
  • Latest News
    • Martin -- Added Mutex; I-builds fixed; Discussions with Buckminster; Simple renamings
    • DaveD -- Signon without password
    • DaveM -- Some hi-pri bugs fixed
    • Kushal -- Refactorings checked in;
    • Javier -- vacation
    • Other News --
  • Upcoming Work
    • What can we achieve till release?
      • 111 bugs open, not counting enhancements (See "Reporter vs. Severity" on the Bug Process page)
      • 3 P1 bugs, 17 P2 bugs open - most of them since 4 weeks (See "Assignee vs. Priority" on the Bug Process page)
      • Team Support is almost totally broken and mostly untested
      • > 700 Javadoc errors (Preferences > Compiler > Javadoc > Report errors, Missing tags)
        • To be fixed manually!
        • Get rid of implementation comments (reference to interface comments instead) wherever possible
      • 5 weeks = 25 days until RC0; 4 weeks = 20 days after, for "planned & coordinated testing + fixing"
      • bugfix rate to-date is 1 "hard" one or 3 "easy" ones per day
      • What do we expect from M4? -> Growing community by a stable release available through Update Manager
      • What do we expect from 1.0? -> Growing community by something reliable to base on
        • Will need to communicate intended refactorings between 1.0 and 2.0 early
        • Keep the RSE 2.0 Planning page up-to-date
    • Refactorings
      • [cleanup] vs. [refactoring] in commit comments
      • Who's maintaining MikeB's Change Map (bug 150548)
      • Discuss before implement
      • SubSystemConfiguration -> SubSystemFactory?
        • 248 matches for "SystemFactory" (case insensitive, not whole word) - extension points, docs, local variables
        • 963 matches for "factory" (case sensitive, whole word) - 548 of these in comments
        • 141 matches for "factories" (case sensitive, whole word) - 61 of these in comments
        • Java search: 50 declarations of "*SubSystemConfiguration*" types
        • Ultimate goals:
          • separate the factory from the configuration, such that ISVs that re-use an existing factory can only implement the configuration but not the factory
          • allow headless launch, connect and use of services through a UI-less extension point for (factory? configuration?)
      • Mutex: which package to move to?
      • Shell Parsers: which package to move to?
    • API Things
      • Service Error Reporting - bug 149472 - DaveD
      • Parallel Services - Martins Mutex to be applied to FTP; bug 142478 all queries in background - DaveM
      • SystemRegistry.createHost for Javier
      • Making stuff internal - ssh, ftp: Martin
      • Obsolete API that's in the Platform now (ActionSets, rseConfigDefaults) --> See RSE 2.0 Planning page
    • Bug Work - please observe priorities
    • Legal: JUnit (Some IBM signoffs needed, but not too hard); Jakarta-commons (TBD aug.24 latest); WR Terminalview
  • Other items
    • Keeping Tutorial up-to-date vs. review at the end of the release process
    • Javier & Martin cleanup changes
    • Please focus on "big rocks" (hi-pri bugs)
    • Manual test plans - in work by Martin
    • EFS feature, Examples feature to be created by Martin
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - JUnit legal, No-Password-API, Service Error Reporting API, SystemRegistry API. Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
  • DaveM - bug fixing (download-upload P1); get rid of Service calls on UI thread; hygiene changes
  • Kushal - refactoring checkin, BUG TRIAGE, bug fixing; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults
  • Martin - Move pattern parsing to core, Service queue for ssh, EFS & Examples features, build scripts, Manual test plan, API Review, Jakarta-commons, WR-terminalview; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
  • Javier - vacation; hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed
  • Everyone - List obsolete API on RSE 2.0 Planning page; Mark hygiene changes as [cleanup] in commit comment

Next Meeting

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