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| − | * '''In attendance:''' Marcel Bruch, Maximilian Kögel, Steffen Pingel, Martin O, Denis Roy, Michael Scharf, Eike Stepper | + | * '''In attendance:''' Marcel Bruch, Maximilian Kögel, Steffen Pingel, Martin O, Denis Roy, Doug Schaefer, Michael Scharf, Eike Stepper |
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| + | === Review of Last Meeting === | ||
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| + | * [[Architecture Council/Meetings/August 14 2014]] | ||
| + | * Still open items moved to [[#Action_Items]] | ||
=== Marcel: '''Update on Error Logging''' === | === Marcel: '''Update on Error Logging''' === | ||
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** By "watching" the errorlog-inbox, or by subscribing to RSS | ** By "watching" the errorlog-inbox, or by subscribing to RSS | ||
** Could people subscribe to "their" ID's only somehow ? | ** Could people subscribe to "their" ID's only somehow ? | ||
| + | ** Bundle names are just guessed due to some heuristics, based on the package names in the stacktrace | ||
| + | ** '''AI Marcel''' send around an E-Mail with example reports | ||
| + | ** Some concern that we might get flooded by reports ... currently 2000 already ... need to tweak / tune down the reporting | ||
* Any auto-reported bug can be used as the base for creating "cloned" bugs in the projects / components | * Any auto-reported bug can be used as the base for creating "cloned" bugs in the projects / components | ||
* When the "tracking bug" is fixed in bugzilla, the reporter could read out the status and even report back to the user | * When the "tracking bug" is fixed in bugzilla, the reporter could read out the status and even report back to the user | ||
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** Right now, the review is done by Marcel ... but hope that project committers will step up once their plugin ID's are reported | ** Right now, the review is done by Marcel ... but hope that project committers will step up once their plugin ID's are reported | ||
| + | === Eike: Usage Data Collection === | ||
| + | * Working on Oomph and Preference Recorder | ||
| + | * Trying to "learn" which Preference Keys are interesting and which ones are not so interesting | ||
| + | * Would like to understand which Preference Keys users found worthwhile to record, and transfer to other workspaces | ||
| + | ** Marcel: First step would be talking to Wayne, who would forward to Mike | ||
| + | * Eike: Is there any precedent ? | ||
| + | ** Marcel: Got permission for error reporting ; pending permission for "heartbeat" as part of the privacy plugin done during GSoC | ||
| + | ** See [http://www.codetrails.com/blog/developers-guide-eclipse-calling-home-policy-part-i Marcel's Blog] for details | ||
| + | ** '''AI Eike''' prepare a little video about the benefit of the envisioned kind of collection, and send to Wayne | ||
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| − | + | * Forked the code on Github, planning to revive it | |
| − | * | + | ** The old version of the plugin is still on the marketplace |
| − | + | ** But the original authors are impossible to reach at this time | |
| − | + | * Original plugin was hosted on Google Code as Subversion, then forked by somebody on Github | |
| − | + | ** Cannot contribute code to Eclipse.org , but interested in posting on Marketplace | |
| − | + | ** Question: How to move on ? | |
| − | * | + | *** Martin: Reminds of the TM Terminal (Cloned as Google ELT, then cloned back as TCF Terminals) ... but there the namespace was different |
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| − | === | + | === Doug: Launchbar === |
| + | * Committed now, being used not only for CDT but also for Java | ||
| + | ** See [http://cdtdoug.ca/?p=539 Doug's Original Announcement] for background | ||
| + | ** Also used for Java now (eg launching Eclemma, ...) | ||
| + | ** Going to write up some blogs; planning to Demo during the CDT Confcall 2nd Tuesday October | ||
| + | ** Goal: Trying to hide Launch Configs, and have them auto-generated with defaults .. aiming at the beginner user | ||
| + | ** Other IDE's like XCode do launches in a much simpler way | ||
| + | * Michael: EclipseRunner also deals with Launch Configurations but in a different way (as a hierarchical view, allowing to launch with one click) | ||
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[[Category:Architecture_Council_Meeting_Minutes]] | [[Category:Architecture_Council_Meeting_Minutes]] | ||
Latest revision as of 11:39, 11 September 2014
| Meeting Title: | Architecture Council Monthly Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Thursday September 11, 2014 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin attention DST change HTML |  iCal
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| Dial-in: | Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call:
Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968
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Contents
Attendees
All AC Members are invited.
- PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
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Eike Stepper |
| Mylyn: | Steffen Pingel | |
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| Technology: | |
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| Tools: | Doug Schaefer | |
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All Attendees
- In attendance: Marcel Bruch, Maximilian Kögel, Steffen Pingel, Martin O, Denis Roy, Doug Schaefer, Michael Scharf, Eike Stepper
- Regrets: Neil Hauge
Agenda / Notes
- Feel free to edit, but not during the call!
Review of Last Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/August 14 2014
- Still open items moved to #Action_Items
Marcel: Update on Error Logging
- Quite confident that everything will be fine until M2
- Reporting bugs directly to bugzilla now - identified based on a fingerprint
- Counting such multiple instances (some handler issues have been reported > 800 times already)
- Marcel reported 15 issues - 5 marked as duplicate, 5 fixed, 5 not yet attended to
- Every committer can subscribe to the bugzilla component as soon as we have it
- By "watching" the errorlog-inbox, or by subscribing to RSS
- Could people subscribe to "their" ID's only somehow ?
- Bundle names are just guessed due to some heuristics, based on the package names in the stacktrace
- AI Marcel send around an E-Mail with example reports
- Some concern that we might get flooded by reports ... currently 2000 already ... need to tweak / tune down the reporting
- Any auto-reported bug can be used as the base for creating "cloned" bugs in the projects / components
- When the "tracking bug" is fixed in bugzilla, the reporter could read out the status and even report back to the user
- Request: please provide feedback and make suggestions
- Right now, the review is done by Marcel ... but hope that project committers will step up once their plugin ID's are reported
Eike: Usage Data Collection
- Working on Oomph and Preference Recorder
- Trying to "learn" which Preference Keys are interesting and which ones are not so interesting
- Would like to understand which Preference Keys users found worthwhile to record, and transfer to other workspaces
- Marcel: First step would be talking to Wayne, who would forward to Mike
- Eike: Is there any precedent ?
- Marcel: Got permission for error reporting ; pending permission for "heartbeat" as part of the privacy plugin done during GSoC
- See Marcel's Blog for details
- AI Eike prepare a little video about the benefit of the envisioned kind of collection, and send to Wayne
Michael: Played with a Stale Plugin
- Forked the code on Github, planning to revive it
- The old version of the plugin is still on the marketplace
- But the original authors are impossible to reach at this time
- Original plugin was hosted on Google Code as Subversion, then forked by somebody on Github
- Cannot contribute code to Eclipse.org , but interested in posting on Marketplace
- Question: How to move on ?
- Martin: Reminds of the TM Terminal (Cloned as Google ELT, then cloned back as TCF Terminals) ... but there the namespace was different
- Sounds like with cloned versions, they would end up as a separate listing on Marketplace ... likely that the active one may bubble up eventually
Doug: Launchbar
- Committed now, being used not only for CDT but also for Java
- See Doug's Original Announcement for background
- Also used for Java now (eg launching Eclemma, ...)
- Going to write up some blogs; planning to Demo during the CDT Confcall 2nd Tuesday October
- Goal: Trying to hide Launch Configs, and have them auto-generated with defaults .. aiming at the beginner user
- Other IDE's like XCode do launches in a much simpler way
- Michael: EclipseRunner also deals with Launch Configurations but in a different way (as a hierarchical view, allowing to launch with one click)
Action Items
- No new action items.
- Cleaned up old action items, see Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011 for old stuff
- (old) Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
- (old) Martin revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
- (old) Martin bug 315210 Make the AC mailing list open / moderated