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Difference between revisions of "Tools PMC Meeting 2013-12-11"

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* Get acquainted.  
 
* Get acquainted.  
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* Attendees: Doug, Andy, Greg, Eric, Alex, David
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* We discussed "Where's John?" :)
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* Discussed "role of PMC" ... what's expected of new members? Doug and David mentioned the following specifics, but also admitted "we" have been doing a limited amount of things -- and their degree of "work" or "initiative" is up to them to define.
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:* Routine things:
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:: - Final approval on committer elections
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:: - Approve IP requests
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:: - Review and approve "Release requests".
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:: - Monitor project's activities, and initial termination review, if warranted.
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:* Less routine:
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:: - act as "ambassadors" to grow Eclipse in general and Tools projects when appropriate.
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:: - make suggestions to EMO if some aspect of process or infrastructure can be improved.
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:: - subscribe to other Top Level PMC lists and look for opportunities to "connect" projects (or, "introduce" them to each other).
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:: - monitor cross-project list and cross-project bugzilla component, if not already, to stay aware of general issues effecting any Tools project.
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:: - its nice to follow dev lists and bugzilla components of all (or several) Tools projects to stay aware of their activities.
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:: - follow our general, Top Level "[https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?list_id=7718435&classification=Tools&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Cross-Project&component=Releng&component=Website&product=Tools Tools bugzilla component]"
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* We discussed a few "themes" from our new members that deserve on-going discussion:
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: * "Why Tools?" In general, why should projects join Eclipse Foundation, and given that, what's pros and cons of being in "Tools" vs. some other project?
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: * Some perceived "problems" with "Eclipse"
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:: - "looks out of date"
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:: - many languages (such as Groovy) have to "patch" JDT
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:: - how to get improvements contributed without "big backers" investing heavily in long term efforts? (Or, how to get some big backers to invest heavily. :)
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* Next meeting: Second Wednesday, 1/8/2014, 11 AM Eastern.
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[[Category:Tools_Meetings]]

Revision as of 15:39, 11 December 2013

Logistics

Meeting Title: Tools PMC Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, December 11, 2013, at 1100 AM Eastern
Dial in: (See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, phone numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)
  • Participant conference extension: 717, then enter pin 57932#
  • SIP clients can call 717@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 57932.

Agenda

  • Get acquainted.
  • Attendees: Doug, Andy, Greg, Eric, Alex, David
  • We discussed "Where's John?" :)
  • Discussed "role of PMC" ... what's expected of new members? Doug and David mentioned the following specifics, but also admitted "we" have been doing a limited amount of things -- and their degree of "work" or "initiative" is up to them to define.
  • Routine things:
- Final approval on committer elections
- Approve IP requests
- Review and approve "Release requests".
- Monitor project's activities, and initial termination review, if warranted.
  • Less routine:
- act as "ambassadors" to grow Eclipse in general and Tools projects when appropriate.
- make suggestions to EMO if some aspect of process or infrastructure can be improved.
- subscribe to other Top Level PMC lists and look for opportunities to "connect" projects (or, "introduce" them to each other).
- monitor cross-project list and cross-project bugzilla component, if not already, to stay aware of general issues effecting any Tools project.
- its nice to follow dev lists and bugzilla components of all (or several) Tools projects to stay aware of their activities.
- follow our general, Top Level "Tools bugzilla component"
  • We discussed a few "themes" from our new members that deserve on-going discussion:
* "Why Tools?" In general, why should projects join Eclipse Foundation, and given that, what's pros and cons of being in "Tools" vs. some other project?
* Some perceived "problems" with "Eclipse"
- "looks out of date"
- many languages (such as Groovy) have to "patch" JDT
- how to get improvements contributed without "big backers" investing heavily in long term efforts? (Or, how to get some big backers to invest heavily. :)
  • Next meeting: Second Wednesday, 1/8/2014, 11 AM Eastern.

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