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− | * Martin to start a Skype conference - you'll be called:<br/>Skype '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal_munir, javier.montalvoorus | + | * Martin to start a Skype conference - you'll be called:<br/>Skype '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal_munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet |
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* Latest News | * Latest News | ||
** Martin -- Updated the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php Committer HOWTO]: Counting lines of code, bug states; Checked in Jakarta Commons Net and Ewas Launch Patch; Release Review Slides; Checked IP-Log... Will we need EMO for [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=144226 144226 dstore spirit patch]? | ** Martin -- Updated the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php Committer HOWTO]: Counting lines of code, bug states; Checked in Jakarta Commons Net and Ewas Launch Patch; Release Review Slides; Checked IP-Log... Will we need EMO for [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=144226 144226 dstore spirit patch]? | ||
− | ** DaveD -- | + | ** DaveD -- Bug work, formatting and fixing javadoc along the way; fixed macbugs, working on profile/team stuff now |
− | ** DaveM -- | + | ** DaveM -- Bug work, e.g. dstore shell exit problem - harder than expected, output readers dont get notified |
− | ** Kushal -- | + | ** Kushal -- IBM & Bug work; might need a "Refresh completed" event - Dave and Kushal to discuss this together; rseConfigDefaults removed from ISV docs, but other refactorings not complete yet |
** Javier -- Vacation | ** Javier -- Vacation | ||
** Ted -- Europa Build Symposion | ** Ted -- Europa Build Symposion | ||
+ | *** http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Europa_Build_Workshop_Report | ||
+ | *** Recommended to use buckminster as much as possible, as a build tool replacing ant | ||
+ | *** Complaints regarding build process - docs is 34 pages, which are the 3 that everyone wants? | ||
+ | *** All projects are encouraged to have Wiki updated with instructions how to build everyting from source | ||
+ | *** All projects to have RSS feeds in place by January | ||
+ | *** Separate the Build from the Publish | ||
+ | *** '''Terminalview''': want to have something checked in early next week | ||
** Other News -- | ** Other News -- | ||
* Upcoming Work | * Upcoming Work | ||
** '''Testing''' and Bug Work are top priorities this week. | ** '''Testing''' and Bug Work are top priorities this week. | ||
*** Sign up on the [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page! | *** Sign up on the [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page! | ||
− | *** Sanity testing I-builds towards M5/RC0: | + | *** Sanity testing I-builds towards M5/RC0: install + 30 minutes |
− | **** Test Update Site at http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/testUpdates/ | + | **** Test Update Site at http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/testUpdates/ |
− | **** Martin: Windows XP, Sun j2sdk1.4.2_12, | + | **** Martin: Windows XP, Sun j2sdk1.4.2_12, Dstore-Linux, Dstore-unix; normal download minimal install |
− | **** DaveD: Mac | + | **** DaveD: Mac, Mac-local, Dstore-local-mac, ssh, dstore; probably Team example (go through tutorial); updateSite; core-install first, upgrade to sdk later |
− | **** DaveM: Linux, | + | **** DaveM: Linux, Linux-local, Dstore-windows, ; normal download |
− | **** Kushal: | + | **** Kushal: Linux, Linux-local, dstore-aix, ssh; updateSite; |
− | **** Ted: | + | **** Ted: Windows, ssh, ftp; normal download SDK |
** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW] | ** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW] | ||
** '''P1/P2 bugs MUST be fixed now!''' | ** '''P1/P2 bugs MUST be fixed now!''' | ||
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], | *** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], | ||
+ | *** Kushal, DaveM to set status ASSINGED for their new bugs | ||
+ | *** DaveD: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 150128] harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand | ||
+ | *** DaveM: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153652 153652] copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&past fails from remote FS to windows explorer | ||
*** How to defer bugs - lowering priority vs. RESOLUTION=LATER: See the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] available from the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php Committer Howto] | *** How to defer bugs - lowering priority vs. RESOLUTION=LATER: See the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] available from the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php Committer Howto] | ||
** '''Test Signup''' on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] | ** '''Test Signup''' on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] | ||
** Source Code Style & Cleanness | ** Source Code Style & Cleanness | ||
*** Missing / Incomplete Copyrights: Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the [http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2-200606291905/index.php Eclipse 3.2 Download Page] - See "6. Fix Copyrights" | *** Missing / Incomplete Copyrights: Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the [http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2-200606291905/index.php Eclipse 3.2 Download Page] - See "6. Fix Copyrights" | ||
+ | *** Component owners please run the tool | ||
*** '''Compiler Warnings''': See [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/compiler_warnings.php Committer Howto] | *** '''Compiler Warnings''': See [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/compiler_warnings.php Committer Howto] | ||
*** '''Code Ownership''' - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] | *** '''Code Ownership''' - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]] | ||
− | *** '''Code Style and Format''' | + | *** '''Code Style and Format''' - defer once more :-) |
**** Not been a focus so far | **** Not been a focus so far | ||
**** RSE itself is inconsistent - e.g. if... without {} block is problematic | **** RSE itself is inconsistent - e.g. if... without {} block is problematic | ||
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** '''Features''': Jakarta-commons/Net, JUnit-framework, Discovery, EFS-Experimental, WR-Terminal ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152826 bug 152826]) | ** '''Features''': Jakarta-commons/Net, JUnit-framework, Discovery, EFS-Experimental, WR-Terminal ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152826 bug 152826]) | ||
** '''Refactorings''': DaveM did most important stuff; consider "finished" for now, continue with hi-pri bugs | ** '''Refactorings''': DaveM did most important stuff; consider "finished" for now, continue with hi-pri bugs | ||
+ | *** SystemRegistry.getTheSystemRegistry() vs. RSEUIPlugin.getSystemRegistry() -- need to keep this for now | ||
*** Kushal IConnectorService --> if we can afford after addressing hi-pri bugs | *** Kushal IConnectorService --> if we can afford after addressing hi-pri bugs | ||
*** Kushal rseConfigDefaults | *** Kushal rseConfigDefaults | ||
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* Vacations, Holidays etc. | * Vacations, Holidays etc. | ||
** Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now) | ** Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now) | ||
− | ** DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off | + | ** DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well |
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | * Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | ||
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Sep-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Sep-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
− | * '''DaveD''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, Hi-Pri bugs | + | * '''DaveD''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal. |
− | * '''DaveM''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, Hi-pri bugs | + | * '''DaveM''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; hygiene changes |
− | * '''Kushal''' - Hi-pri bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults; talk to Don about passwordPersistence | + | * '''Kushal''' - Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults; talk to Don about passwordPersistence |
− | * '''Martin''' - Manual test plan, Hi-pri bugs; EFS feature, Build scripts for CDT and Discovery, API Review, Jakarta-commons; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal | + | * '''Martin''' - Manual test plan, Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs; EFS feature, Build scripts for CDT and Discovery, API Review, Jakarta-commons; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal |
* '''Javier''' - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed | * '''Javier''' - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed | ||
− | * '''Ted''' - | + | * '''Ted''' - Sanity-check I-build; Terminalview; Document build process |
Revision as of 12:09, 20 September 2006
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Wednesday Sep 20, 2006 at 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg |
Primary International Dial-in: | +44 (0)1452 567588 |
USA Freephone Dial-In: | +1 (866) 6161738 |
UK National Dial-In: | 08712460713 |
Passcode: | 0587322148 # |
Fixed-line fallback dial-in:
- International +1 314-655-1411
- North America +1 877-422-0035 (toll free)
- Passcode: 764918
Skype fallback dial-in:
- Martin to start a Skype conference - you'll be called:
Skype martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal_munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams
- (Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús - vacation)
Agenda
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
- Latest News
- Martin -- Updated the Committer HOWTO: Counting lines of code, bug states; Checked in Jakarta Commons Net and Ewas Launch Patch; Release Review Slides; Checked IP-Log... Will we need EMO for 144226 dstore spirit patch?
- DaveD -- Bug work, formatting and fixing javadoc along the way; fixed macbugs, working on profile/team stuff now
- DaveM -- Bug work, e.g. dstore shell exit problem - harder than expected, output readers dont get notified
- Kushal -- IBM & Bug work; might need a "Refresh completed" event - Dave and Kushal to discuss this together; rseConfigDefaults removed from ISV docs, but other refactorings not complete yet
- Javier -- Vacation
- Ted -- Europa Build Symposion
- http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Europa_Build_Workshop_Report
- Recommended to use buckminster as much as possible, as a build tool replacing ant
- Complaints regarding build process - docs is 34 pages, which are the 3 that everyone wants?
- All projects are encouraged to have Wiki updated with instructions how to build everyting from source
- All projects to have RSS feeds in place by January
- Separate the Build from the Publish
- Terminalview: want to have something checked in early next week
- Other News --
- Upcoming Work
- Testing and Bug Work are top priorities this week.
- Sign up on the RSE 1.0 Testing page!
- Sanity testing I-builds towards M5/RC0: install + 30 minutes
- Test Update Site at http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/testUpdates/
- Martin: Windows XP, Sun j2sdk1.4.2_12, Dstore-Linux, Dstore-unix; normal download minimal install
- DaveD: Mac, Mac-local, Dstore-local-mac, ssh, dstore; probably Team example (go through tutorial); updateSite; core-install first, upgrade to sdk later
- DaveM: Linux, Linux-local, Dstore-windows, ; normal download
- Kushal: Linux, Linux-local, dstore-aix, ssh; updateSite;
- Ted: Windows, ssh, ftp; normal download SDK
- New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
- P1/P2 bugs MUST be fixed now!
- Open bugs: P1, P2 bugs, API bugs, Open with Patch,
- Kushal, DaveM to set status ASSINGED for their new bugs
- DaveD: 150128 harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand
- DaveM: 153652 copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&past fails from remote FS to windows explorer
- How to defer bugs - lowering priority vs. RESOLUTION=LATER: See the Bug Process Page available from the Committer Howto
- Test Signup on RSE 1.0 Testing
- Source Code Style & Cleanness
- Missing / Incomplete Copyrights: Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the Eclipse 3.2 Download Page - See "6. Fix Copyrights"
- Component owners please run the tool
- Compiler Warnings: See Committer Howto
- Code Ownership - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
- Code Style and Format - defer once more :-)
- Not been a focus so far
- RSE itself is inconsistent - e.g. if... without {} block is problematic
- Use JDT autoformat as much as possible: perhaps define an RSE-style and check in with the projects?
- Or use the standard eclipse style: might be problematic when merging RSE7 code into openRSE
- Change Requests
- SystemRegistry.getTheSystemRegistry() vs. RSEUIPlugin.getSystemRegistry()
- Default colors for command view - white background, black or dark blue foreground
- Remove rseConfigDefaults extension point - Kushal
- Remove passwordPersistence extension point - Kushal
- Deprecated getRemoteProperty() --> Document property namespaces, reserve "org.eclipse.rse" namespace
- Features: Jakarta-commons/Net, JUnit-framework, Discovery, EFS-Experimental, WR-Terminal (bug 152826)
- Refactorings: DaveM did most important stuff; consider "finished" for now, continue with hi-pri bugs
- SystemRegistry.getTheSystemRegistry() vs. RSEUIPlugin.getSystemRegistry() -- need to keep this for now
- Kushal IConnectorService --> if we can afford after addressing hi-pri bugs
- Kushal rseConfigDefaults
- Kushal passwordPersistence
- API Things
- Service Error Reporting - bug 149472 - DaveD - API ok so far, final resolution? --> Create new different bug id for that one.
- Parallel Services - bug 142478 all queries in background - DaveM
- SystemRegistry.createHost for Javier
- bug 150168 dont commit immediately - DaveD
- Javier: not important at the moment; DaveD: probably fixed already
- bug 150265 allow specifying subsystem types - DaveM
- Example: 1 Host providing shell and FTP (different categories)
- Problem: createHost() only creates a host with 1 service -- See video for service discovery, DaveM to take a look at it
- Need createHost() with a list of services
- Can wait until hi-pri bugs are fixed.
- bug 150168 dont commit immediately - DaveD
- Making stuff internal - ssh, ftp: Martin; Core: List of candidates from DaveD?
- Cleanup: API Doc (duplicates in interface and implementation!), JUnit tests, Context help, Test Plans, RSE-7-migration-docs, Copyrights, licenses
- Testing and Bug Work are top priorities this week.
- Other items
- Tutorial: Update at the end of the release process, change instructions (re-use example code: We dont want to teach PDE)
- Manual test plans - in work by Martin
- EFS Experimental feature to be created by Martin
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
- DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Sign up on RSE 1.0 Testing page, Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
- DaveM - Sign up on RSE 1.0 Testing page, meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; hygiene changes
- Kushal - Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults; talk to Don about passwordPersistence
- Martin - Manual test plan, Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs; EFS feature, Build scripts for CDT and Discovery, API Review, Jakarta-commons; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
- Javier - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed
- Ted - Sanity-check I-build; Terminalview; Document build process
Next Meeting
- Release Review Meeting on 27-Sep-2006 at 8am PDT/11am Toronto/4pm London/5pm Salzburg
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 27-Sep-2006 at 9am SFO/11.00am Rochester/12.00pm Toronto/5pm London/6pm Salzburg : 1 HOUR LATER DUE TO RELEASE REVIEW
- Open DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006 at 9am PST