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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Sep-2006

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Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Sep 13, 2006 at 8.30am Rochester / 9.30am Toronto / 2.30pm London / 3.30pm Salzburg
Dial-in: Martin to start a Skype conference - you'll be called:
Skype martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal_munir, javier.montalvoorus

Fixed-line fallback dial-in:

  • International +1 314-655-1411
  • North America +1 877-422-0035 (toll free)
  • Passcode: 764918


  • IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber (Ted Williams - on Build Symposion)


  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
  • Latest News
    • Martin -- Set up Test Planning page, Finished Release Review Draft
    • DaveD -- Spent some time on automating tests; problem is that the Framework tries to do everything in the background; Reviewed M4 bugs; Finished IBM work, full time for openRSE now
    • DaveM -- Drag&Drop / Filetransfer: will look at Navigator PluginTransfer next; might mark it as missing feature for 1.0; will have full time openRSE now
    • Kushal -- got the code for removing rseConfigDefaults, will attach a migration guide to a bug; passwordPersistence: an IBM team wants the Preference Page - They have customers that have other tooling which makes use of this - bug are OK with removing the extension point as long as the page remains the same.
    • Javier -- Checked in SD in CVS (; feature for Update Site missing; DaveM has problems, version of EMF? DaveD could do testing, if we decide we want an official
    • Ted -- This week at Europa Build Symposion; maybe move the meeting 1 hour later
    • Other News --
  • Upcoming Work
    • Bug Work is top priority now!
    • M4 bugs: PLEASE REVIEW M4 BUGS!!
    • New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
    • P1/P2 bugs MUST be fixed by Sept. 15!
    • Source Code Style & Cleanness
      • Missing / Incomplete Copyrights: Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the Eclipse 3.2 Download Page - See "6. Fix Copyrights"
      • Compiler Warnings: See Committer Howto
      • Code Ownership - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
        • DaveD would prefer to have clear ownership
        • Goal: Encourage integrity of the design, the owner is responsible for a solid extendible design
        • Even non-owners can make bug fixes, but please let the owner know
        • Dont make design-breaking changes without letting the owner know
        • Might add a backup person
        • Code owners should triage bugs in a timely fashion
        • Ownership table as help for dispatching bugs
        • Ownership for cross-package functionality is possible, e.g. File Encodings
      • Code Style and Format -- defer to next week
    • Change Requests
      • Default colors for command view - white background, black or dark blue foreground
      • Remove rseConfigDefaults extension point - Kushal
      • Remove passwordPersistence extension point - Kushal
      • Deprecated getRemoteProperty() --> Document property namespaces, reserve "org.eclipse.rse" namespace
    • Features: Jakarta-commons/Net, JUnit-framework, Discovery, EFS-Experimental, WR-Terminal (bug 152826)
    • Refactorings: DaveM did most important stuff; consider "finished" for now, continue with hi-pri bugs
      • Kushal IConnectorService --> if we can afford after addressing hi-pri bugs
      • Kushal rseConfigDefaults
      • Kushal passwordPersistence
    • API Things
      • Service Error Reporting - bug 149472 - DaveD - API ok so far, final resolution? --> Create new different bug id for that one.
      • Parallel Services - bug 142478 all queries in background - DaveM
      • SystemRegistry.createHost for Javier
        • bug 150168 dont commit immediately - DaveD
          • Javier: not important at the moment; DaveD: probably fixed already
        • bug 150265 allow specifying subsystem types - DaveM
          • Example: 1 Host providing shell and FTP (different categories)
          • Problem: createHost() only creates a host with 1 service -- See video for service discovery, DaveM to take a look at it
          • Need createHost() with a list of services
          • Can wait until hi-pri bugs are fixed.
      • Making stuff internal - ssh, ftp: Martin; Core: List of candidates from DaveD?
    • Cleanup: API Doc (duplicates in interface and implementation!), JUnit tests, Context help, Test Plans, RSE-7-migration-docs, Copyrights, licenses
  • Other items
    • Tutorial: Update at the end of the release process, change instructions (re-use example code: We dont want to teach PDE)
    • Manual test plans - in work by Martin
    • EFS Experimental feature to be created by Martin
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
    • DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Sign up on RSE 1.0 Testing page, Hi-Pri bugs. Edit Code Ownership. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
  • DaveM - Sign up on RSE 1.0 Testing page, Hi-pri bugs; get rid of Service calls on UI thread; hygiene changes
  • Kushal - Hi-pri bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults; talk to Don about passwordPersistence
  • Martin - Manual test plan, Hi-pri bugs; EFS feature, Build scripts for CDT and Discovery, API Review, Jakarta-commons, WR-terminalview; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
  • Javier - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed
  • Ted - Sign up on RSE 1.0 Testing page; Report about Build Symposion

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