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== Attendees == | == Attendees == | ||
− | * IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir | + | * IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, (Kushal Munir n/a) |
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | * Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | ||
− | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a, Ted Williams n/a) |
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This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | ||
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− | + | * 1.0: 85 examples -- people do want to code against RSE APIs | |
+ | * 68 discovery -- some interest | ||
+ | * update site gaining significance with 1.0.1 | ||
+ | * For more analysis, see [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006]] | ||
=== Latest News === | === Latest News === | ||
{|border=1 | {|border=1 | ||
− | | Martin || | + | | Martin || 80% || Packaging Terminal, Releasing 1.0.1, Fixing, Planning 2.0 || 50% |
|- | |- | ||
− | | DaveD || | + | | DaveD || 80% || || 80% |
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| DaveM || 80% || || 80% | | DaveM || 80% || || 80% | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | | Kushal || 50% || || | + | | Kushal || 50% || || 0% |
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− | | Javier || 50% || | + | | Javier || 50% || compiler warnings || 50% |
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− | | Ted || 5% || | + | | Ted || 5% || creating org.eclipse.rse.releng.builder || 80% |
|- | |- | ||
− | | Uwe || 50% || | + | | Uwe || 50% || test framework, unit tests || 50% |
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− | | Michael || | + | | Michael || 40% || terminal fixes || |
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+ | === Looking back on 1.0.1 === | ||
+ | |||
+ | * [[RSE 1.0.1 Testing]] statistics (links on bottom of page): | ||
+ | ** 63 bugs fixed, 40 verified, 7 reopened, 6 new: | ||
+ | *** 16 not yet verified; '''more than 11% reopened!''' | ||
+ | ** We need to improve the quality of our bug fixes, and decrease the time for verification: using '''unit tests''' | ||
+ | ** When picking a bug, pick one that's "testable" and start writing a unit test for it. Then, fix it. | ||
+ | *** After jumping over an initial hurdle of unit tests, we'll soon earn the fruit of enhanced quality and less time needed for testing | ||
+ | ** bugs assigned to target 1.0.1 but left open are now assigned to 2.0M4 (currently 46 bugs) - see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] | ||
=== Upcoming Work === | === Upcoming Work === | ||
− | * ''' | + | * '''Top priority''' this week is a stable 2.0M4 --> '''Finish off some cleanup''', '''add unit tests''' |
− | + | * When to fork off 2.0 API changes? | |
− | + | ** Can start right away (e.g. "anonymous" ftp access), but quality must be high: | |
− | * | + | ** add '''unit tests''' for all new or modified API |
− | ** | + | ** document API changes (on build notes, tm-dev list or where?) |
− | + | ||
− | ** | + | |
− | + | ||
− | + | ||
− | + | ||
− | + | ||
− | ** | + | |
* Planning 2.0 | * Planning 2.0 | ||
− | ** Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD) | + | ** Dates are governed by Europa: M4='''Jan 4''', M5='''Feb 23'''==EclipseCon, M6='''Apr 6'''==API Freeze, M7='''May 18'''==RC0 |
− | *** Also need a CQ for two Userdoc files for the Internal Comms Daemon | + | ** Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD) |
− | ** [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan | + | *** Also need a CQ for two Userdoc files for the Internal Comms Daemon? (Kushal, DaveD) |
− | ** Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal". | + | ** [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan, '''Priorities:''' |
− | ** | + | *** '''1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation''' |
− | + | **** SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands; read-only flags; Streams for IHostShell, IFileService; UI/Non-UI Refactoring; make RSE more service-oriented | |
+ | *** '''2. Make EFS work''' | ||
+ | *** '''3. Play well with the Platform''' | ||
+ | *** '''4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; ...) | ||
+ | ** Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal". | ||
+ | ** For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch) | ||
=== Communications === | === Communications === | ||
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* Vacations, Holidays etc. | * Vacations, Holidays etc. | ||
− | ** Kushal away from 18th | + | ** Kushal away from 18th |
+ | ** DaveD away 22nd and most of Thu 21st but may work a little 25th to 1st | ||
** Martin, DaveM away from 25th to 1st | ** Martin, DaveM away from 25th to 1st | ||
** Javier away from 25th to 8th | ** Javier away from 25th to 8th | ||
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 12-Dec-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 12-Dec-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
− | * '''DaveD''' - | + | * '''DaveD''' - Bugs & Unit tests; New bug for moving DTD. |
− | * '''DaveM''' - Bugs; Compiler Warnings (dstore); | + | * '''DaveM''' - Bugs & Unit tests; Compiler Warnings (dstore); |
− | * '''Kushal''' - Compiler Warnings (UI); Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs | + | * '''Kushal''' - Compiler Warnings (UI); Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests |
− | * '''Martin''' - Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]; [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute); | + | * '''Martin''' - Bugs & Unit Tests; Features for Unittests; Add Jakarta Commons to Orbit; Plan Item Specifications; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]; [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute); |
− | * '''Javier''' - Bugs; | + | * '''Javier''' - Bugs & Unit Tests; Specification for "RSE should be more service oriented" |
− | * '''Ted''' - | + | * '''Ted''' - Prepare Europa build (in org.eclipse.rse.releng.builder) |
* '''Michael''' - | * '''Michael''' - | ||
* '''Uwe''' - RSE Systemview performance unit tests | * '''Uwe''' - RSE Systemview performance unit tests |
Latest revision as of 14:16, 19 December 2006
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Tuesday Dec 19, 2006 at 1600 UTC |
Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, (Kushal Munir n/a)
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a, Ted Williams n/a)
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Notes
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
Recent Download Statistics
Component | RC3 | RC4 | 1.0 | 1.0.1 | Note |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Date | 30-Oct | 03-Nov | 12-Nov | 15-Dec | |
RSE-SDK | 113 | 146 | 458 | 40 | |
rseserver-windows | 24 | 63 | 185 | 7 | |
rseserver-linux | 19 | 25 | 133 | 11 | |
rse.core (Update Site) | 72 | 28 | 172 | 52 | 1.0 src is 156 |
Total | 185 | 174 | 630 | 92 | |
examples | 27 | 85 | 7 | ||
remotecdt | 7 | 66 | 7 | per 1.0.1, remotecdt is no longer in SDK | |
discovery | 13 | 68 | 9 | ||
efs | 12 | 42 | 8 | ||
terminal | - | - | 12 |
- 1.0: 85 examples -- people do want to code against RSE APIs
- 68 discovery -- some interest
- update site gaining significance with 1.0.1
- For more analysis, see DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006
Latest News
Martin | 80% | Packaging Terminal, Releasing 1.0.1, Fixing, Planning 2.0 | 50% |
DaveD | 80% | 80% | |
DaveM | 80% | 80% | |
Kushal | 50% | 0% | |
Javier | 50% | compiler warnings | 50% |
Ted | 5% | creating org.eclipse.rse.releng.builder | 80% |
Uwe | 50% | test framework, unit tests | 50% |
Michael | 40% | terminal fixes |
Looking back on 1.0.1
- RSE 1.0.1 Testing statistics (links on bottom of page):
- 63 bugs fixed, 40 verified, 7 reopened, 6 new:
- 16 not yet verified; more than 11% reopened!
- We need to improve the quality of our bug fixes, and decrease the time for verification: using unit tests
- When picking a bug, pick one that's "testable" and start writing a unit test for it. Then, fix it.
- After jumping over an initial hurdle of unit tests, we'll soon earn the fruit of enhanced quality and less time needed for testing
- bugs assigned to target 1.0.1 but left open are now assigned to 2.0M4 (currently 46 bugs) - see the bug process page
- 63 bugs fixed, 40 verified, 7 reopened, 6 new:
Upcoming Work
- Top priority this week is a stable 2.0M4 --> Finish off some cleanup, add unit tests
- When to fork off 2.0 API changes?
- Can start right away (e.g. "anonymous" ftp access), but quality must be high:
- add unit tests for all new or modified API
- document API changes (on build notes, tm-dev list or where?)
- Planning 2.0
- Dates are governed by Europa: M4=Jan 4, M5=Feb 23==EclipseCon, M6=Apr 6==API Freeze, M7=May 18==RC0
- Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
- Also need a CQ for two Userdoc files for the Internal Comms Daemon? (Kushal, DaveD)
- RSE 2.0 Planning - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan, Priorities:
- 1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
- SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands; read-only flags; Streams for IHostShell, IFileService; UI/Non-UI Refactoring; make RSE more service-oriented
- 2. Make EFS work
- 3. Play well with the Platform
- 4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; ...)
- 1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
- Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal".
- For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch)
Communications
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Kushal away from 18th
- DaveD away 22nd and most of Thu 21st but may work a little 25th to 1st
- Martin, DaveM away from 25th to 1st
- Javier away from 25th to 8th
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Bugs & Unit tests; New bug for moving DTD.
- DaveM - Bugs & Unit tests; Compiler Warnings (dstore);
- Kushal - Compiler Warnings (UI); Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
- Martin - Bugs & Unit Tests; Features for Unittests; Add Jakarta Commons to Orbit; Plan Item Specifications; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on RSE 2.0 Planning; TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
- Javier - Bugs & Unit Tests; Specification for "RSE should be more service oriented"
- Ted - Prepare Europa build (in org.eclipse.rse.releng.builder)
- Michael -
- Uwe - RSE Systemview performance unit tests
Next Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 2-Jan-2007 at 1600 UTC
- Open DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 10-Jan-2007 at 9am PST