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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Dec-2006

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Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Dec 19, 2006 at 1600 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.


  • IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, (Kushal Munir n/a)
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a, Ted Williams n/a)

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).


  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

Recent Download Statistics

RSE 1.0 Download statistics as per 19-Dec-2006
Component RC3 RC4 1.0 1.0.1 Note
Date 30-Oct 03-Nov 12-Nov 15-Dec
RSE-SDK 113 146 458 40
rseserver-windows 24 63 185 7
rseserver-linux 19 25 133 11
rse.core (Update Site) 72 28 172 52 1.0 src is 156
Total 185 174 630 92
examples 27 85 7
remotecdt 7 66 7 per 1.0.1, remotecdt is no longer in SDK
discovery 13 68 9
efs 12 42 8
terminal - - 12
  • 1.0: 85 examples -- people do want to code against RSE APIs
  • 68 discovery -- some interest
  • update site gaining significance with 1.0.1
  • For more analysis, see DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006

Latest News

Martin 80% Packaging Terminal, Releasing 1.0.1, Fixing, Planning 2.0 50%
DaveD 80% 80%
DaveM 80% 80%
Kushal 50% 0%
Javier 50% compiler warnings 50%
Ted 5% creating org.eclipse.rse.releng.builder 80%
Uwe 50% test framework, unit tests 50%
Michael 40% terminal fixes

Looking back on 1.0.1

  • RSE 1.0.1 Testing statistics (links on bottom of page):
    • 63 bugs fixed, 40 verified, 7 reopened, 6 new:
      • 16 not yet verified; more than 11% reopened!
    • We need to improve the quality of our bug fixes, and decrease the time for verification: using unit tests
    • When picking a bug, pick one that's "testable" and start writing a unit test for it. Then, fix it.
      • After jumping over an initial hurdle of unit tests, we'll soon earn the fruit of enhanced quality and less time needed for testing
    • bugs assigned to target 1.0.1 but left open are now assigned to 2.0M4 (currently 46 bugs) - see the bug process page

Upcoming Work

  • Top priority this week is a stable 2.0M4 --> Finish off some cleanup, add unit tests
  • When to fork off 2.0 API changes?
    • Can start right away (e.g. "anonymous" ftp access), but quality must be high:
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API
    • document API changes (on build notes, tm-dev list or where?)
  • Planning 2.0
    • Dates are governed by Europa: M4=Jan 4, M5=Feb 23==EclipseCon, M6=Apr 6==API Freeze, M7=May 18==RC0
    • Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
      • Also need a CQ for two Userdoc files for the Internal Comms Daemon? (Kushal, DaveD)
    • RSE 2.0 Planning - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan, Priorities:
      • 1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
        • SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands; read-only flags; Streams for IHostShell, IFileService; UI/Non-UI Refactoring; make RSE more service-oriented
      • 2. Make EFS work
      • 3. Play well with the Platform
      • 4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; ...)
    • Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal".
    • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch)


  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • Kushal away from 18th
    • DaveD away 22nd and most of Thu 21st but may work a little 25th to 1st
    • Martin, DaveM away from 25th to 1st
    • Javier away from 25th to 8th
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Bugs & Unit tests; New bug for moving DTD.
  • DaveM - Bugs & Unit tests; Compiler Warnings (dstore);
  • Kushal - Compiler Warnings (UI); Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Martin - Bugs & Unit Tests; Features for Unittests; Add Jakarta Commons to Orbit; Plan Item Specifications; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on RSE 2.0 Planning; TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
  • Javier - Bugs & Unit Tests; Specification for "RSE should be more service oriented"
  • Ted - Prepare Europa build (in org.eclipse.rse.releng.builder)
  • Michael -
  • Uwe - RSE Systemview performance unit tests

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