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== Invited Attendees == | == Invited Attendees == | ||
− | * Wind River - | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams, Doug Gaff, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber |
− | * IBM - Dave | + | * IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir |
* LANL / PTP Project - Greg Watson | * LANL / PTP Project - Greg Watson | ||
* QNX - Doug Schaefer | * QNX - Doug Schaefer | ||
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== Actual Attendees == | == Actual Attendees == | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams, Michael Scharf / Doug Gaff, Uwe Stieber | ||
+ | * IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal | ||
+ | -- * LANL / PTP Project - Greg Watson | ||
+ | -- * QNX - Doug Schaefer | ||
+ | * Symbian - Javier Montalvo | ||
+ | -- * ARM - Anthony Berent | ||
+ | -- * TI - Dobrin Alexey | ||
+ | * Motorola - Christian Kurzke, Ruth Soliani, Maureen | ||
+ | -- Accelerated Technology - Aaron Spear, Mark Bozeman | ||
+ | -- Freescale - Kirk Beitz | ||
+ | -- Montavista - Joe Green | ||
+ | -- Palm Source - Ewa Matejska | ||
== Agenda == | == Agenda == | ||
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*** rseserver: Germany=20, US=19, China=7, France=6, Belgium=6 | *** rseserver: Germany=20, US=19, China=7, France=6, Belgium=6 | ||
− | * Update on RSE Status | + | * '''Update on RSE Status''' |
− | ** RSE 1.0 | + | ** All blockers towards RSE 1.0 resolved finally - about files review finally done by emo |
** New TM FAQ on [[TM and RSE FAQ]] | ** New TM FAQ on [[TM and RSE FAQ]] | ||
** [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/plan.php Project Plan] status | ** [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/plan.php Project Plan] status | ||
− | *** CDT Launcher | + | *** CDT Launcher now works on dstore as well |
*** Jakarta commons-net - working | *** Jakarta commons-net - working | ||
*** JUnit tests - due to slow legal approval, we now have a framework but no tests yet | *** JUnit tests - due to slow legal approval, we now have a framework but no tests yet | ||
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*** EFS plugin added as "experimental technology preview" | *** EFS plugin added as "experimental technology preview" | ||
*** Going to join Europa Simultaneous Release | *** Going to join Europa Simultaneous Release | ||
+ | ** Comments regarding the 1.0 release? | ||
+ | *** Great work - using RSE almost daily (Michael Scharf) | ||
+ | * '''Motorola - Christian Kurzke''' | ||
+ | ** Dev.environment for all Motorola hardware, going Eclipse now (also new TmL project) | ||
+ | ** Interested in contributing towards version 2: bring requirements to the table, TM for cellphones, embedded settop boxes | ||
+ | ** Looks like there is a lot of existing support for Linux workstations; new requirements coming for "bare metal" stuff; Motorola's requirements are somewhere in the middle | ||
+ | *** Maureen to get in closer touch technically | ||
+ | * Documentation: Which are the best places to start with? | ||
+ | ** ISV docs | ||
+ | ** Eclipse Summit Europe slides | ||
+ | ** Architecture overview from Toronto F2F meeting | ||
+ | ** Use Cases document (old now but still up-to-date -- everybody agreed that this is where we want to get to) | ||
+ | ** Upcoming Tutorial for EclipseCon2007 | ||
+ | |||
** '''Community's most wanted - who's working on what?''' | ** '''Community's most wanted - who's working on what?''' | ||
*** [http://eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/plugin_details.jsp?id=1392 Wicked Shell] | *** [http://eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/plugin_details.jsp?id=1392 Wicked Shell] | ||
+ | *** WR Terminalview: Michael Scharf currently heavily refactoring this, such that connection can be exchanged; hopes to be finished in the next few days | ||
+ | *** There is usage for both commandview (line-based text output) and terminalview | ||
+ | *** Plans to extend RSE more to the target? (native agent) FAQ | ||
+ | **** Until recently, the strategy was that companies already have proprietary agents, and they'd write extensions to RSE that integrates with the existing proprietary agent | ||
+ | **** There seems to be field demand for an Open Source agent solution; TPTP already has a Framework for agents; might investigate an integration of RSE with the TPTP agent in the future, rather than developing yet another agent. Symbian thinks about adding this to RSE 2.0 | ||
+ | **** TPTP is C++, which might be a problem on some very small devices; but Motorola to look at it | ||
+ | **** Motorola has proprietarty C-based agent now; want an agent framework that can be extended, such that agent extensions (modules) can be downloaded | ||
+ | **** Writing a native C implementation of the DStore agent might also be an option | ||
+ | **** Christian wrote something like an OSGi framework in native code for dynamic loading of modules, might be an interesting starting point | ||
*** Questions? Requests? | *** Questions? Requests? | ||
+ | |||
* Communications | * Communications | ||
+ | ** Will have a RSE | ||
** Please fill in [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] | ** Please fill in [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] | ||
** Collaborations with other projects (Platform/Team, PTP, CDT, TPTP, WTP, ECF, Aperi, g-Eclipse) | ** Collaborations with other projects (Platform/Team, PTP, CDT, TPTP, WTP, ECF, Aperi, g-Eclipse) | ||
+ | *** Martin wants Platform/Team to get ssh2 preference page under category "Connections" | ||
+ | *** Javier in contact with ECF for service discovery | ||
+ | *** Michael: DD project has new views for async updates of trees; might be a better view for the RSE tree | ||
* Technology sub-groups | * Technology sub-groups | ||
− | |||
− | |||
** Update on [[DSDP/TM/Autodetect|Autodetect]] (Javier) | ** Update on [[DSDP/TM/Autodetect|Autodetect]] (Javier) | ||
+ | *** Currently no plans to extend discovery beyond what's already there; waiting for community input | ||
* Next Meeting | * Next Meeting | ||
** 6-Dec-2006 | ** 6-Dec-2006 | ||
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== Action Items to Review == | == Action Items to Review == | ||
* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] | * Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006]] | ||
− | |||
== New Action Items == | == New Action Items == | ||
* DaveD - begin EMO review submission for SSH/Processes patch from MontaVista | * DaveD - begin EMO review submission for SSH/Processes patch from MontaVista | ||
+ | * Everybody - Review and edit the [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page | ||
+ | * Everybody - Get latest RSE I-builds, sanity-check and verify late bug fixes | ||
+ | * Maureen to try RSE, review docs, and get in contact with the dsdp-tm-dev list Martin | ||
== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
* Next [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Dec-2006]] (Wednesday, 4 weeks) | * Next [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Dec-2006]] (Wednesday, 4 weeks) |
Revision as of 13:46, 8 November 2006
Dial-in numbers and passcodes have changed for this call only. We'll revert to our regular numbers next month.
Meeting Title: | Conference Call on Target Management |
Date & Time: | Wednesday November 8, 2006 at 1700 UTC / 9am PST |
International Dial-in | +1 314 655 1411 |
North American Dial-In | +1 877 422 0035 |
Passcode: | 764918# |
Contents
Invited Attendees
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams, Doug Gaff, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber
- IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
- LANL / PTP Project - Greg Watson
- QNX - Doug Schaefer
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo
- ARM - Anthony Berent
- TI - Dobrin Alexey
- Motorola - Christian Kurzke
- Accelerated Technology - Aaron Spear, Mark Bozeman
- Freescale - Kirk Beitz
- Montavista - Joe Green
- Palm Source - Ewa Matejska
Everyone else is free to attend
Actual Attendees
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams, Michael Scharf / Doug Gaff, Uwe Stieber
- IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal
-- * LANL / PTP Project - Greg Watson -- * QNX - Doug Schaefer
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo
-- * ARM - Anthony Berent -- * TI - Dobrin Alexey
- Motorola - Christian Kurzke, Ruth Soliani, Maureen
-- Accelerated Technology - Aaron Spear, Mark Bozeman -- Freescale - Kirk Beitz -- Montavista - Joe Green -- Palm Source - Ewa Matejska
Agenda
- Recent Download Statistics
Component | M4 | M5 | RC1 | RC2 | RC3 | RC4 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Date | 18-Aug | 22-Sep | 08-Oct | 20-Oct | 30-Oct | 03-Nov |
RSE-SDK | 4 | 38 | 164 | 177 | 113 | 68 |
rseserver-windows | 1 | 11 | 70 | 62 | 24 | 34 |
rseserver-linux | 1 | 6 | 39 | 28 | 19 | 9 |
rse.core (Update Site) | 66 | 46 | 72 | 28 | ||
Total | 230 | 223 | 185 |
- Download Statistics Analysis
- RC1 was just after the "getting mature" blog (18-Sep)
- RC2 was just after the "release test" blog (11-Oct); also, 20-Oct was the originally planned release date
- Most people still prefer the SDK, although the update site is gaining momentum
- On the update site, 60% get the .jar.pack.gz but 40 % get the .jar file
- Looking at RC1, Grouping by country is:
- RSE-SDK: Germany=38, China=26, US=25, France=10, Canada=8, Turkey=7, Austria=6
- Update Site: US=23, France=10, Sweden=4, Austria=3 China=3, Denkmark=3, Germany=3, Italy=3
- rseserver: Germany=20, US=19, China=7, France=6, Belgium=6
- Update on RSE Status
- All blockers towards RSE 1.0 resolved finally - about files review finally done by emo
- New TM FAQ on TM and RSE FAQ
- Project Plan status
- CDT Launcher now works on dstore as well
- Jakarta commons-net - working
- JUnit tests - due to slow legal approval, we now have a framework but no tests yet
- What's being added in addition to the plan
- Initial version of Discovery is checked in, now availble in the org.eclipse.tm.core project.
- Wind River got its Terminal View through EMO Review, and is now checked in at org.eclipse.tm.core.
- EFS plugin added as "experimental technology preview"
- Going to join Europa Simultaneous Release
- Comments regarding the 1.0 release?
- Great work - using RSE almost daily (Michael Scharf)
- Motorola - Christian Kurzke
- Dev.environment for all Motorola hardware, going Eclipse now (also new TmL project)
- Interested in contributing towards version 2: bring requirements to the table, TM for cellphones, embedded settop boxes
- Looks like there is a lot of existing support for Linux workstations; new requirements coming for "bare metal" stuff; Motorola's requirements are somewhere in the middle
- Maureen to get in closer touch technically
- Documentation: Which are the best places to start with?
- ISV docs
- Eclipse Summit Europe slides
- Architecture overview from Toronto F2F meeting
- Use Cases document (old now but still up-to-date -- everybody agreed that this is where we want to get to)
- Upcoming Tutorial for EclipseCon2007
- Community's most wanted - who's working on what?
- Wicked Shell
- WR Terminalview: Michael Scharf currently heavily refactoring this, such that connection can be exchanged; hopes to be finished in the next few days
- There is usage for both commandview (line-based text output) and terminalview
- Plans to extend RSE more to the target? (native agent) FAQ
- Until recently, the strategy was that companies already have proprietary agents, and they'd write extensions to RSE that integrates with the existing proprietary agent
- There seems to be field demand for an Open Source agent solution; TPTP already has a Framework for agents; might investigate an integration of RSE with the TPTP agent in the future, rather than developing yet another agent. Symbian thinks about adding this to RSE 2.0
- TPTP is C++, which might be a problem on some very small devices; but Motorola to look at it
- Motorola has proprietarty C-based agent now; want an agent framework that can be extended, such that agent extensions (modules) can be downloaded
- Writing a native C implementation of the DStore agent might also be an option
- Christian wrote something like an OSGi framework in native code for dynamic loading of modules, might be an interesting starting point
- Questions? Requests?
- Community's most wanted - who's working on what?
- Communications
- Will have a RSE
- Please fill in RSE 2.0 Planning
- Collaborations with other projects (Platform/Team, PTP, CDT, TPTP, WTP, ECF, Aperi, g-Eclipse)
- Martin wants Platform/Team to get ssh2 preference page under category "Connections"
- Javier in contact with ECF for service discovery
- Michael: DD project has new views for async updates of trees; might be a better view for the RSE tree
- Technology sub-groups
- Update on Autodetect (Javier)
- Currently no plans to extend discovery beyond what's already there; waiting for community input
- Update on Autodetect (Javier)
- Next Meeting
- 6-Dec-2006
Action Items to Review
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006
New Action Items
- DaveD - begin EMO review submission for SSH/Processes patch from MontaVista
- Everybody - Review and edit the RSE 2.0 Planning page
- Everybody - Get latest RSE I-builds, sanity-check and verify late bug fixes
- Maureen to try RSE, review docs, and get in contact with the dsdp-tm-dev list Martin
Next Meeting
- Next DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Dec-2006 (Wednesday, 4 weeks)