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Planning Council/December 05 2012


Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, December 05, 2012, at 1200 Eastern
Dial in: (See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, potential new numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)

Phone Numbers:

  • Ottawa (local call in Ottawa) 1-613-454-1403
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  • France (local call anywhere in France) +33-17-070-8535
  • UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806
  • Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
Participant conference extension: 710 then enter pin 35498
  • SIP clients:
call, then enter pin 35498.

Members and Attendees

PMC (and Strategic) Reps
Chris Aniszczyk Technology (PMC)
John Arthorne Eclipse (PMC) Y
Steffen Pingel Mylyn (ALM) PMC Y
Brian Payton Datatools (PMC) R
Doug Schaefer Tools (PMC)
Adrian Mos SOA (PMC)
Ed Merks Modeling (PMC)
Ian Bull Rt (PMC) Y
David Williams WTP (PMC) (appointed Chair) Y
Gary Xue Birt (PMC)
Wayne Beaton Eclipse Foundation (appointed) Y
Strategic Reps
Cedric Brun OBEO (Strategic Developer)
Neil Hauge Oracle (Strategic Developer) Y
Kaloyan Raev SAP AG (Strategic Developer)
Igor Fedorenko Sonatype (Strategic Developer)
Markus Knauer Innoopract (Strategic Developer) Y
Achim Loerke BREDEX (Strategic Developer)
(PMC rep) Actuate (Strategic Developer) X
(PMC rep) IBM (Strategic Developer) X
[no name] CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer) X

Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected


  •  ?


  • SR2 to get active in January


  • Removed "what's changed for Juno" section. (And so far, no changed requirements for Kepler and ... the history is in the wiki).
  • Removed the 3.8 compatibility section.
  • Deleted requirements previously removed (but which were left in document as "strikout").
  • Deleted "[date clarified]" editor notes (since a little distracting).
  • Changed Juno to Kepler where appropriate.
  • Changed Indigo to Juno where appropriate (such as help URLs).
  • Ran "linkchecker" and found a few broken links and updated as best I could.
  • Improved grammar or wording in a dozen spots (usually to remove words, honest).
  • Corrected spelling of one word. :)
  • Added "reasons" for why non-greedy-ness was important (and sent a note to p2-dev list to sanity check in advance -- thanks Ian, Pascal, for reviewing).
  • Based on Ian's comments, I added phrase pointing to the issue the Java 7 and nested jars (bug 361628).
  • Any other changes/edits? Can we formally approve this version, and schedule, for Kepler? (It is, after all, almost M4!)
Removed sentence about "Roadmap" since there is no longer such as "roll up" of plans.
Removed mention of "CVS" and changed spelling of 'GIT' to 'Git'.
Agreement it was ready to be "formalized" (especially since little changed from previous year).

  • It is almost M4! Everyone in? Anyone know of delayed projects? Complications?
None noted. dw to send reminder to cross-project list.

Other Business

  •  ?
Wayne mentioned he thought new Portal would be ready in January.

Next Meeting

  • No meeting January 2, 2012 (our regular "first Wednesday" meeting) due to Holidays/vacations.
  • Can we skip January? Or just defer it a week or two? If skipped, next would be February 6 (which does get near Juno SR2).
Decided to plan for February (skip January), but that if anything comes up, we can always schedule one later for second week or so of January.


Kepler Wiki page
Juno Wiki page
Planning Council/Indigo retrospective
Planning Council Members
Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO

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