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Attendees (Tentative)

  • Eclipse Foundation (Ian Skerrett)
  • Motorola (Dino Brusco, Christian Kurzke, Gustavo, Eric Cloninger)
  • Nokia ([Rich Bartlett], Ronnie King (Carbide.c++) )
  • Craig Setera
  • RIM (Ken Wallis (eclipse team lead), Matt Whiteman, Adam Abramski, Cassidy Gentle)
  • Sony Ericsson (Thomas Westing)
  • Intel (Bob Spencer (OSS technologies, moblin architect)
  • Genuitec (Wayne Parrott, Maher Masri, Todd Williams) Project Firefly
  • Mark Rogalski (eRCP)

(Roll Call)

Proposed Agenda

Members are welcome to edit this Wiki page and add to the agenda before the meeting. Changes (removals) should be discussed on the mailing list.

Review of the Agenda

(anyone have some last minute Agenda items)

Craig: Wants to present idea for WG road map consideration

Review of MIWG Materials


    • Working Groups are more focused on collaboration on a strategy level, unlike traditional "projects" which are focused on producing Code.
    • Eclipse provides a defined process how organizations join and collaborate openly
    • 2 Levels of participation: Steering Committee and Members
    • All proceedings are open to the general public

  • Craig Setera (Ideas on long term MADK development) New Agenda Item
    • Current Pain point for Mobile Application developers: Device "Fragmentation"
    • e.g. MIDP, doesnt standardize things like "soft key" key codes.

Developers would benefit from e.g. a centralized device property database There is 2 other projects,

      • Wurfel: a XML DB with questionable licensing, data somewhat outdated
      • J2ME Polish: Data better Licensing questionable
    • This forum could be a good starting point for a new, open, industry wide DB
      • Will start a Email thread to start discussion, get interest & feedback from members

Dino : Charter includes currently 4 areas:

    • MADK (product: base development platform)
    • Roadmap
    • Best Practices: goal to unify e.g. documentation (what/how to document), this could include Craig's proposed fragmentation Database
    • Promotion: Marketing, etc.
    • (Note: Do we need to reflect those areas on the Wiki? create subfolders?)

  • Wiki Overview

Note: (Christian) Clarification of communication medium: for now keep converstaions on Email List, if needed and desired we can explore Bugzilla for "focussed" discussion of an item. Since most people on this list are not working day-to-day with bugzilla, this may be a overhead?? opinions anyone?

Road Map Work Items

Discuss technical work items

  • Creation of a MADK package
    • Brief summary
    • Timeline
  • Post Galileo planning
  • Do we need technical sub-committee(s)?

Market Development Activities

Ecosystem Development

  • How to increase industry awareness outside Eclipse community?
    • e.g. should we engage in JCP discussions around UEI
    • other ideas

Upcoming Events

  • Eclipse related Events
  • General Open Source and Mobile Events

Next Steps

  • Discuss future EMIWG telecons – BiWeekly? Technical / Steering Committee
  • Assigned SC representative (must appoint technical representative)
  • Assigned technical resource for technical committee

Next Meeting

  • Schedule bi-weekly Call
    • Next Call, Thursday Jan 29, same time
  • Face to Face meeting at EclipseCon
    • Ian to explore hosting/room for 1/2 day event
    • Create Agenda for f2f Meeting

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