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E4/Meeting Minutes/Status 20091217


  • Bogdan Gheorghe
  • Boris Bokowski
  • Dan Rubel
  • Eric Moffatt
  • John Arthorne
  • Mike Wilson (McQ)
  • Oleg Besedin
  • Kai Toedter
  • Remy Suen
  • Susan McCourt
  • Tom Schindl
  • Yves Yang


  • We were aiming for a self-hosted IDE by end of 2009 but we are a bit behind schedule
  • Mostly done with crafting the shape of the workbench model
  • Workbench trim now working
  • SWT status
    • Refactoring to handle CSS pseudo-classes
    • Cocoa and Windows 7 shell trim support
    • Support for pervasive search bug 69200
  • Model merge
    • Looking at extensibility of merge algorithm to support different RCP app scenarios
  • Compatibility layer is running the workbench again
  • Looking at e4 extensions points
    • Plug-in developer allowed to modify base e4 model
    • Merge e4 model changes made by all plug-ins
    • There was some discussion on how to do this, and how much control to give to plug-in developers during the call. There will be a follow-on meeting to discuss this in more detail
  • Kai working on contacts demo
    • Added more use of data binding
    • Xtext based editor for authoring styling
  • e4 XWT designer
    • Created a project in prototyping stage
    • Main issue is how to start the e4 application in the same JRE as the designer
    • Yves to write some wiki doc on how to get started
  • EclipseCon
    • So far e4 talks are very technical
    • Can we have a talk that is more entry level to demonstrate how easy e4 is to work with
  • Need to tag the examples so they continue to run in the future
    • If you grab e4 1.0 M2 and try the examples from the PSF they don't compile: bug 298011
    • Working on embedded browser for examples bug 295605
    • Explored related *.psf enhancement bug 162608
  • Tom working on e4 presentation in Zurich
  • Susan working on integration of error log view
  • Working with UI visual designer
    • Looking at ways to reduce clutter (See bug 297985 for details)
    • First iterations (focus on content not containers) were a bit too mellow/unexciting
    • New iteration will add more styling to containers to help draw attention from clutter

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