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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 6-Feb-2007

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Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Feb 6, 2007 at 1700 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.


  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).


  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

Latest News

Martin 50% EclipseCon; EFS Symlinks; Enabled "internal" warnings; Bugzilla discussions. 50%
DaveD 80% UDA contribution work, ready to submit next week; cleaned up M5 backlog; moving core UI->core 100%
DaveM 50% EclipseCon; IBM stuff; reading+commenting on bugs 50%
Kushal 100% Encodings; adding unittests now; discovery w/javier 100%
Javier 50% 169680 passive mode; 50%
Ted 0% 0%
Uwe 20% adapting RSE; filing bugs, attaching patches 20%
Michael 20% improving Terminal performance 20%
  • Javier: PropertySetContainer doesnt persist Boolean -- AI file a bug and write a unit test
  • DaveD: How were the "internal" warnings done? - Martin: in export-package: statement add;x-internal="true"

Upcoming Work

  • Top priority this week is getting API things done for M5. Plan items are currently more important than bug priorities.
    • Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial: fix bugs as needed
    • 170923 (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting
    • 163820 (Kushal) Encodings
    • 170916 (Kushal) EFS
      • What about putting EFS directly on top of IFileService without using the cache
    • 170627 (DaveM) ISystemFilter in SystemViewElementAdapter.getChildren()
    • 173042 (Uwe) Improved / pluggable Refresh
    • 170832 (Martin) Read-only setting on ssh - what about using EFS on the back-end? (dstore doesnt do streams)
    • 170922 (DaveM, Martin) Making as much as possible "internal": SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
      • AI: component owners to come up with a list by thursday
    • 170915 (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
      • ok with getting rid of popupMenus; testAttribute() already implemented in SystemViewElementAdapter
      • dynamicPopupMenus? - If we can't live without Platform "internal" access, we should get rid of it - Uwe thinks it can be done with standard Eclipse.
      • Plan: 1. re-write usage of popupMenus etc. to use plain Eclipse; 2. get rid of EP --> AI DaveM
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API
  • New Europa Requirements from Planning Council Meeting 23-Jan-2007
    • Written ramp down policy by Feb. 23rd --> AI Martin: wait for what Platform does and adapt it
    • Avoiding non-API from other projects
      • AI create bugzillas for getting rid of Platform Internal access and hook them up with a plan item; Europa requires that these are in the release notes and there is a plan for addressing these in the next major release
    • Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
    • Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
  • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now


  • General code cleanup -- to do right after M4:
    • Get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif, IBM_logo.gif
    • Get rid of commented out source code
    • Get rid of unused properties (chkpii)
  • Change Requests
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • DaveD going to Florida on Thursday next week (Feb 15th-21st)
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
    • Decided to fix the committer meeting slot to 1700 UTC (same as today).

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • Everybody - Come up with a list of classes from the areas you own, which can be internal (by thursday)
  • DaveD - Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution; Remove RSE Performance Logging; Bugs & Unit tests;
  • DaveM - EclipseCon; re-write rse.popupMenus usage; Bugs & Unit tests; finish permission API; download Streams API;
  • Kushal - Encodings; EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Martin - EclipseCon tutorial; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
  • Javier - Unittest for Boolean Propertyset; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ftp; FTP passive mode; Improve SD
  • Ted -
  • Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
  • Uwe -

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