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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Apr-2007

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Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Apr 17, 2007 at 1500 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.


  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal (Kushal Munir n/a)
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber (Michael Scharf n/a), (Ted Williams n/a)

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).


TM 2.0M6 Test and Download Stats

  • See DSDP/TM/Download Stats 17-Apr-2007
  • Even 1.0 is still being downloaded (+38 downloads since 7-Feb); 1.0.1 +1038 since 7-Feb
  • Bulk of 2.x downloads comes from Europa site!
    • Europa Downloaders seem to tend to get everything
    • Terminal slightly gaining significance with M5
  • rseserver-linux is most popular since 1.0.1 (rseserver-windows was it before)
  • When compiling statistics, M6a was not yet announced (only Europa got it from the update site)

News & Review Action Items

Martin 100% [done] fix EFS and respin 2.0M6a; [done] TM Webinar; [done] Update website, blog, promote Webinar and TM 2.0M6a; [done] Testing and Download Statistics; 100%
DaveD 100% Persistence Improvements - really happy with interface now; thinks about properties to change the instanciation of the provider, e.g. in order to tailor it for storing in .metadata - Martin wants persistence to work without org.eclipse.core.resource if possible in order to fix EFS early startup 70%
DaveM 10% ISubSystem.connect() for EFS; Bugfixes 20%
(Kushal) (50%) (BIDI Encodings) (?)
Javier 50% FTP Parser Extension Point - Problems persisting Property Set (DaveD thinks he knows the issue) 50%
Ted 0% - 0%
Uwe 5% - 5%
Michael 10% 173730 Terminal Separate Input Line 10%

Time Plan and Deadlines toward M7

  • Plan towards M7 - goals and deadlines for I-builds
    • I20070419 -- Fixes for localization enablement testing (BIDI, DBCS)
    • I20070426 -- Major breaking API changes (Martin: getSystemType(), getInstance(); UI/Non-UI; Persistence)
    • I20070503 -- Minor API changes - Final Feature Additions - Feature Freeze (Terminal integration; FTP Parser)
    • I20070510 -- Stabilization, start TM 2.0M7 Testing
    • I20070516 -- TM 2.0M7 (17th is a public holiday in Austria!)

  • Stability of this week's I-build for enablement testing is not too important --> Add importexport, useractions; DaveD to add persistence.
  • All committers are in favor of the persistence changes

Bugs and open work to be discussed

  • Current Priorities
    • Priority #1: Open Major Bugs - Copying issues, NPEs
    • Priority #2: EFS: Martin, done
      • Open Remote Project on Startup: Get rid of IResource dependencies where possible; minimal plugin activations; UI/Non-UI
      • Copy(), Move() operations;
    • Priority #3: Remaining API changes for Persistence, Refresh etc.
      • Mostly DaveD and Martin
      • 182454 - what is the meaning of ISystemViewElementAdapter.getAbsoluteName()
        • DaveM: Original intent was providing a unique ID similar to an URI - any object should be uniquely identifiable by a string.
        • Used by Drag&Drop for instance, to allow windows native dnd support with a "filename"; also copy&paste, memento
        • Should be enforced, null should not be allowed
        • Should be unique within a single subsystem (multiple subsystems can have different elements with same absolute name)
      • Javier: FTP parallel download, allowing to register directory listing parser by extension point
      • Useractions / Importexport: - AI Martin add to nightly builds; AI DaveD, Kushal persistence with User Actions; Dave working on API prerequisites now; AI DaveM Import/Export

  • General Guidelines
    • Avoid breaking API changes if possible (keep delegate methods, use deprecation)

Vacation, Away

  • Kushal out 1/2 day on Tuesday (during meeting time), another 1/2 day on Wed and full day on Thur
  • DaveD out on Friday 20th

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD: Remaining changes for Persistence (will be required for User Actions)
  • DaveM: Major bugs for dstore, copying
  • Kushal: BIDI bugs
  • Martin: Testing Stats; Add Import/Export and UDA to I-builds; Refresh improvements; Integrating Terminal with RSE
  • Javier: FTP parallel download, registering FTP Parser by extension point

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