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Architecture Council/Meetings/December 13 2012

Meeting Title: Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time: Thursday December 13, 2012 at 1600 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin attention DST change
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  • Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) 49-692-2224-6059
  • France (local call anywhere in France) 33-17-070-8535
  • UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806

Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968

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All AC Members are invited.

  • PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: Wenfeng Li Wenbin He
DTP: Brian Payton Linda Chan
Eclipse: Mike Wilson John Arthorne
Boris Bokowski
Modeling: Ed Merks Cédric Brun
Sven Efftinge
Mylyn: Steffen Pingel Mik Kersten
RT: Christian Campo Tom Watson
SOA: Adrian Mos Sebastien Gandon
Technology: Gunnar Wagenknecht Wayne Beaton
Tools: Doug Schaefer
WTP: Chuck Bridgham Dave Carver
Neil Hauge
  • Signed-Up: John Arthorne, Wayne Beaton, Chuck Bridgham, Ian Bull, Christian Campo, Doug Clarke, Sebastien Gandon, Neil Hauge, Kenn Hussey, Markus Knauer, Achim Loerke, Martin O, Doug Schaefer, Eike Stepper, Krum Tsvetkov
  • Regrets: Dave Carver, Benjamin Cabé, Ed Merks, Adrian Mos, Andrew Overholt, Brian Payton, Mary Ruddy
  • No-Show: Chris Aniszczyk, Boris Bokowski, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, Linda Chan, Mik Kersten, Mike Milinkovich, Kim Moir, Steffen Pingel, Michael Scharf, Tom Schindl, Gunnar Wagenknecht, Tom Watson, David Williams, Mike Wilson

Agenda / Notes

  • Feel free to edit, but not during the call!

Review of Last Meeting

New Topics

  • Welcome Krum Tsvetkov (Strategic, SAP)
    • Eclipse since 2008, MAT project lead, interested in troubleshooting tools, performance analysis, persistence
  • Benjamin: Eclipse project SHOULD HAVE explicit target definition? (see thread on cross-project-issues ML
    • Eike: Build uses buckminster, there is no target definition - would hate to maintain two redundant artifacts
      • Buckminster requires constant maintenance - 20 foreign repositories mentioned ! Could see auto-generation
    • Martin: If target def is manually generated, it could be against older versions of dependencies ?
    • Ian: The trick is really about where to publish the target def ... related to other docs about how to contribute
    • Recommend projects to have some sort of "How to Contribute", and suggest using target def as one ingredient.
      • Link to some "good examples" of existing projects eg Linuxtools, Egit, CDT
  • AI Krum put together an initial recommendation on Wiki, send to AC ML for feedback
  • Wayne: Mentor responsibilities
    • AC members please look at mentored projects and check their status ... some might just need a nudge getting to 1.0, some might just not undestand their opportunities
    • Clean up candidates for termination
    • List of Mentor assignments in the Portal should mostly be OK at this point
      • Some projects are still in incubation but pre-date the requirement for Mentors

General Topics

  • Eclipse Infrastructure - git, Gerrit, Maven, Hudson, Bugzilla, ...
    • Wayne: Lost 4 hard drives yesterday, might have had some impact on Hudson, Webmaster working on it
    • Wayne: Git migration looks good (Orbit will remain on CVS)
      • Looking for AC input :how to re-sync / re-image / re-design Orbit ?
      • EMO knows that maven needs to be put in focus (related to CBI)
      • Would like to get Orbit off CVS by end 2013 ... potentially drive from CBI requirements. Maybe discuss at EclipseCon
  • John: EclipseCon
    • AC meeting on Sunday ?
    • Session schedule now posted, still some empty spots to be filled
      • AI Martin initiate AC meeting (room, time, invitation) - might need a different chair since Martin might not be able to attend in person
  • Updates from the Board or the EMO

Action Items

  • Cleaned up old action items, see Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011 for old stuff
  • (old) Martin to add Eclipsecon meeting notes onto the wiki
  • (old) Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
  • (old) Martin revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
  • (old) Martin bug 315210 Make the AC mailing list open / moderated

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