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| Wednesday [[Sep 20, 2006]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2006&month=9&day=20&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg]
 
| Wednesday [[Sep 20, 2006]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2006&month=9&day=20&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg]
 
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| Dial-in:
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| Primary Dial-in:
| Martin to start a Skype conference - you'll be called:<br/>Skype '''martin.oberhuber''', ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal_munir, javier.montalvoorus
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| '''+44 (0)1452 567588'''
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|-
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| USA Freephone Dial-In:
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| +1 (866) 6161738
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|-
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| UK National Dial-In:
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| 08712460713
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|-
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| Passcode:
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| '''0587322148 #'''
 
|}
 
|}
 
Fixed-line fallback dial-in:
 
* International '''+1 314-655-1411'''
 
* North America '''+1 877-422-0035''' (toll free)
 
* Passcode: '''764918'''
 
  
 
== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
 
* IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
 
* IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
 
 
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams
 
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams
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* (Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús - vacation)
  
 
== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
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** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
 
** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
 
* Latest News
 
* Latest News
** Martin -- Updated the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php Committer HOWTO]: Counting lines of code, bug states; Checked in Jakarta Commons Net and Ewas Launch Patch; Release Review Slides
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** Martin -- Updated the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php Committer HOWTO]: Counting lines of code, bug states; Checked in Jakarta Commons Net and Ewas Launch Patch; Release Review Slides; Checked IP-Log... Will we need EMO for [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=144226 144226 dstore spirit patch]? - No
** DaveD --  
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** DaveD -- Bug work, formatting and fixing javadoc along the way; fixed macbugs, working on profile/team stuff now
** DaveM --  
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** DaveM -- Bug work, e.g. dstore shell exit problem - harder than expected, output readers dont get notified
** Kushal --  
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** Kushal -- IBM & Bug work; might need a "Refresh completed" event - Dave and Kushal to discuss this together; rseConfigDefaults removed from ISV docs, but other refactorings not complete yet
** Javier --  
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** Javier -- Vacation
 
** Ted -- Europa Build Symposion
 
** Ted -- Europa Build Symposion
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*** http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Europa_Build_Workshop_Report
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*** Recommended to use buckminster as much as possible, as a build tool replacing ant
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*** Complaints regarding build process - docs is 34 pages, which are the 3 that everyone wants?
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*** All projects are encouraged to have Wiki updated with instructions how to build everyting from source
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*** All projects to have RSS feeds in place by January
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*** Separate the Build from the Publish
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*** '''Terminalview''': want to have something checked in early next week
 
** Other News --
 
** Other News --
 
* Upcoming Work
 
* Upcoming Work
** Bug Work is top priority now!
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** '''Testing''' and Bug Work are top priorities this week.
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*** Sign up on the [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page!
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*** Sanity testing I-builds towards M5/RC0: install + 30 minutes
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**** Test Update Site at http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/testUpdates/
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**** Martin: Windows XP, Sun j2sdk1.4.2_12, Dstore-Linux, Dstore-unix; normal download minimal install
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**** DaveD: Mac, Mac-local, Dstore-local-mac, ssh, dstore; probably Team example (go through tutorial); updateSite; core-install first, upgrade to sdk later
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**** DaveM: Linux, Linux-local, Dstore-windows, ; normal download
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**** Kushal: Linux, Linux-local, dstore-aix, ssh; updateSite;
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**** Ted: Windows, ssh, ftp; normal download SDK
 
** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW]
 
** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW]
** '''P1/P2 bugs MUST be fixed now!'''
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** Focus on '''Stabilization''' now. Its ok to have a few P2 bugs. Dont destabilize while we are approaching M5/RC0.
 
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch],
 
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch],
*** How to defer bugs - lowering priority vs. RESOLUTION=LATER
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*** Kushal, DaveM to set status ASSIGNED for their new bugs
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*** DaveD: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 150128] harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand
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*** DaveM: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153652 153652] copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&past fails from remote FS to windows explorer
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*** How to defer bugs - lowering priority vs. RESOLUTION=LATER: See the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process Page] available from the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/committer_howto.php Committer Howto]
 
** '''Test Signup''' on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]]
 
** '''Test Signup''' on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]]
 
** Source Code Style & Cleanness
 
** Source Code Style & Cleanness
 
*** Missing / Incomplete Copyrights: Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the [http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2-200606291905/index.php Eclipse 3.2 Download Page] - See "6. Fix Copyrights"
 
*** Missing / Incomplete Copyrights: Please use the Releng tool from the bottom of the [http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2-200606291905/index.php Eclipse 3.2 Download Page] - See "6. Fix Copyrights"
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*** Component owners please run the tool
 
*** '''Compiler Warnings''': See [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/compiler_warnings.php Committer Howto]
 
*** '''Compiler Warnings''': See [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/compiler_warnings.php Committer Howto]
 
*** '''Code Ownership''' - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]]
 
*** '''Code Ownership''' - [[DSDP/TM/Code Ownership]]
*** '''Code Style and Format'''
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*** '''Code Style and Format''' - defer once more :-)
**** Not been a focus so far
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**** RSE itself is inconsistent - e.g. if... without {} block is problematic
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**** Use JDT autoformat as much as possible: perhaps define an RSE-style and check in with the projects?
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**** Or use the standard eclipse style: might be problematic when merging RSE7 code into openRSE
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** '''Change Requests'''
 
** '''Change Requests'''
*** Default colors for command view - white background, black or dark blue foreground
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*** SystemRegistry.getTheSystemRegistry() vs. RSEUIPlugin.getSystemRegistry() -- due to pragmatic refactoring, not possible to fix rightnow
*** Remove rseConfigDefaults extension point - Kushal
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*** Remove passwordPersistence extension point - Kushal
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*** Deprecated getRemoteProperty() --> Document property namespaces, reserve "org.eclipse.rse" namespace
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** '''Features''': Jakarta-commons/Net, JUnit-framework, Discovery, EFS-Experimental, WR-Terminal ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152826 bug 152826])
 
** '''Features''': Jakarta-commons/Net, JUnit-framework, Discovery, EFS-Experimental, WR-Terminal ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152826 bug 152826])
** '''Refactorings''': DaveM did most important stuff; consider "finished" for now, continue with hi-pri bugs
 
*** Kushal IConnectorService --> if we can afford after addressing hi-pri bugs
 
*** Kushal rseConfigDefaults
 
*** Kushal passwordPersistence
 
** API Things
 
*** '''Service Error Reporting''' - [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=149472 bug 149472] - DaveD - API ok so far, final resolution? --> Create new different bug id for that one.
 
*** '''Parallel Services''' - [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142478 bug 142478] all queries in background - DaveM
 
*** '''SystemRegistry.createHost''' for Javier
 
**** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 bug 150168] dont commit immediately - DaveD
 
***** Javier: not important at the moment; DaveD: probably fixed already
 
**** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150265 bug 150265] allow specifying subsystem types - DaveM
 
***** Example: 1 Host providing shell and FTP (different categories)
 
***** Problem: createHost() only creates a host with 1 service -- See video for service discovery, DaveM to take a look at it
 
***** Need createHost() with a list of services
 
***** Can wait until hi-pri bugs are fixed.
 
 
*** Making stuff '''internal''' - ssh, ftp: Martin; Core: List of candidates from DaveD?
 
*** Making stuff '''internal''' - ssh, ftp: Martin; Core: List of candidates from DaveD?
 
** Cleanup: API Doc (duplicates in interface and implementation!), JUnit tests, Context help, Test Plans, RSE-7-migration-docs, Copyrights, licenses
 
** Cleanup: API Doc (duplicates in interface and implementation!), JUnit tests, Context help, Test Plans, RSE-7-migration-docs, Copyrights, licenses
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* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
* Vacations, Holidays etc.
 
** Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
 
** Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
** DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off
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** DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
 
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
  
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== Action Items ==
 
== Action Items ==
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Sep-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
 
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Sep-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items
* '''DaveD''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, Hi-Pri bugs. Edit Code Ownership. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
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* '''DaveD''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
* '''DaveM''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, Hi-pri bugs; get rid of Service calls on UI thread; hygiene changes
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* '''DaveM''' - ASSIGN or reassign your NEW bugs; Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page, meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; hygiene changes
* '''Kushal''' - Hi-pri bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults; talk to Don about passwordPersistence
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* '''Kushal''' - ASSIGN or reassign your NEW bugs; Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults; talk to Don about passwordPersistence
* '''Martin''' - Manual test plan, Hi-pri bugs; EFS feature, Build scripts for CDT and Discovery, API Review, Jakarta-commons; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
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* '''Martin''' - Verify [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153652 153652]; Manual test plan, Create I-build; Bugfixes; EFS feature, Build scripts for CDT and Discovery, API Review, Jakarta-commons; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
 
* '''Javier''' - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed
 
* '''Javier''' - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed
* '''Ted''' - Sign up on [[RSE 1.0 Testing]] page; Report about Build Symposion; Terminalview
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* '''Ted''' - Sanity-check I-build; Terminalview; Document build process
  
  

Latest revision as of 12:37, 20 September 2006

Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Wednesday Sep 20, 2006 at 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg
Primary Dial-in: +44 (0)1452 567588
USA Freephone Dial-In: +1 (866) 6161738
UK National Dial-In: 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

Attendees

  • IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams
  • (Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús - vacation)

Agenda

  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
  • Latest News
    • Martin -- Updated the Committer HOWTO: Counting lines of code, bug states; Checked in Jakarta Commons Net and Ewas Launch Patch; Release Review Slides; Checked IP-Log... Will we need EMO for 144226 dstore spirit patch? - No
    • DaveD -- Bug work, formatting and fixing javadoc along the way; fixed macbugs, working on profile/team stuff now
    • DaveM -- Bug work, e.g. dstore shell exit problem - harder than expected, output readers dont get notified
    • Kushal -- IBM & Bug work; might need a "Refresh completed" event - Dave and Kushal to discuss this together; rseConfigDefaults removed from ISV docs, but other refactorings not complete yet
    • Javier -- Vacation
    • Ted -- Europa Build Symposion
      • http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Europa_Build_Workshop_Report
      • Recommended to use buckminster as much as possible, as a build tool replacing ant
      • Complaints regarding build process - docs is 34 pages, which are the 3 that everyone wants?
      • All projects are encouraged to have Wiki updated with instructions how to build everyting from source
      • All projects to have RSS feeds in place by January
      • Separate the Build from the Publish
      • Terminalview: want to have something checked in early next week
    • Other News --
  • Upcoming Work
    • Testing and Bug Work are top priorities this week.
      • Sign up on the RSE 1.0 Testing page!
      • Sanity testing I-builds towards M5/RC0: install + 30 minutes
        • Test Update Site at http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/testUpdates/
        • Martin: Windows XP, Sun j2sdk1.4.2_12, Dstore-Linux, Dstore-unix; normal download minimal install
        • DaveD: Mac, Mac-local, Dstore-local-mac, ssh, dstore; probably Team example (go through tutorial); updateSite; core-install first, upgrade to sdk later
        • DaveM: Linux, Linux-local, Dstore-windows, ; normal download
        • Kushal: Linux, Linux-local, dstore-aix, ssh; updateSite;
        • Ted: Windows, ssh, ftp; normal download SDK
    • New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
    • Focus on Stabilization now. Its ok to have a few P2 bugs. Dont destabilize while we are approaching M5/RC0.
      • Open bugs: P1, P2 bugs, API bugs, Open with Patch,
      • Kushal, DaveM to set status ASSIGNED for their new bugs
      • DaveD: 150128 harder than expected, would like to defer: bugfix to persist each of 3 persist-jobs in a row is easier than adding the API for persist on demand
      • DaveM: 153652 copy&paste - drag&drop works always, copy&past fails from remote FS to windows explorer
      • How to defer bugs - lowering priority vs. RESOLUTION=LATER: See the Bug Process Page available from the Committer Howto
    • Test Signup on RSE 1.0 Testing
    • Source Code Style & Cleanness
    • Change Requests
      • SystemRegistry.getTheSystemRegistry() vs. RSEUIPlugin.getSystemRegistry() -- due to pragmatic refactoring, not possible to fix rightnow
    • Features: Jakarta-commons/Net, JUnit-framework, Discovery, EFS-Experimental, WR-Terminal (bug 152826)
      • Making stuff internal - ssh, ftp: Martin; Core: List of candidates from DaveD?
    • Cleanup: API Doc (duplicates in interface and implementation!), JUnit tests, Context help, Test Plans, RSE-7-migration-docs, Copyrights, licenses
  • Other items
    • Tutorial: Update at the end of the release process, change instructions (re-use example code: We dont want to teach PDE)
    • Manual test plans - in work by Martin
    • EFS Experimental feature to be created by Martin
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • Martin - 2 weeks once the baby is here (around Oct.3, but could also be any time now)
    • DaveD taking Oct.12-13 off, 19-20 as well
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics


Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Sign up on RSE 1.0 Testing page, Edit Code Ownership. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-Pri bugs. JUnit. Checkin mappings.csv, New bug for moving DTD, Send "Team" test plans to Martin. SystemRegistry API. Team fixes: Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
  • DaveM - ASSIGN or reassign your NEW bugs; Sign up on RSE 1.0 Testing page, meet Kushal for Dirty Editors. Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; hygiene changes
  • Kushal - ASSIGN or reassign your NEW bugs; Meet DaveM for Dirty Editors; Fix Copyrights. Sanity-check I-build, Hi-pri bugs, Safe bugs; refactoring IConnectorService; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults; talk to Don about passwordPersistence
  • Martin - Verify 153652; Manual test plan, Create I-build; Bugfixes; EFS feature, Build scripts for CDT and Discovery, API Review, Jakarta-commons; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
  • Javier - Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed
  • Ted - Sanity-check I-build; Terminalview; Document build process


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