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== Agenda / Notes  ==
 
== Agenda / Notes  ==
  
* '''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the call!</font>'''
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# FEEP Overview (Paul White)
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# Every Detail Matters for the Neon Release
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# AC/PC help with The Great Fixes programme
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# Neon Release Status (David?)
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# Project Mentoring is broken. What do we do about it?
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# Impact of Eclipse Che
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# Typical existential discussion
  
=== Review of Last Meeting  ===
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==FEEP==
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Paul White started the meeting with a status report on FEEP.
  
* [[Architecture Council/Meetings/January 14 2016]]
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* We can only do as much work as there are funds available.
* Still open items moved to [[#Action_Items]]
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** We've been receiving a steady stream of donations (consistent year over year)
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** ~$125K from last year's donations
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* Hired (moved) Mikael Barbero into development role.
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** Technical leader, but will do some development
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** Prioritize work
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** Point of contact for contractors
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* (Ed) Suggested that we let the community vote with dollars
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** (Paul) There are some challenges with this approach; we haven't explored this yet
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** Need to learn lessons from other orgs
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* FEEP work is staffed by Paul, Mike, Mikael, and Wayne
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* FEEP work done/in-progress
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** Ed worked on improving start up times
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** Obeo is working on autosave
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** Fabio is working on dark theme
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** Patrick Suzzi is doing bug triage for the platform
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*** Will fix low-hanging fruit, validate bugs, close bugs that need to be closed, etc.
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* (Ian) Will FEEP money go to the entire commit chain?
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** (Paul) No (not necessarily)
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** (Doug) FEEP funding is no more special than an employer paying you to contribute
  
=== New Topics ===
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First technical discussion of the day:
 
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* (Ed) Dark theme just can't work. Technically not possible.
* Feel free to fill in, but not during the meeting :)
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** Must wrestle with SWT Platform fidelity.
 
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** Technical challenges are daunting
==== Welcome New Members ====
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* (Paul) People are trying to use it
* Jim Hughes joining for LocationTech
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** Message that we're trying to send is to move it forward
* Alexander Nyssen representing strategic member itemis
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* (Eike) We (collectively) need to create a document that describes how to do theming
* Jay Billings (appointed)
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* Mickael Istria (appointed)
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See [[Architecture Council/Members and Mentors]], and the [http://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/council.php#architecture Councils Page]
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==== (Lars) Chat room for AC meeting ====
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* Suggests to have a chat room, e.g. via Mattermost, so that AC members can chat during the call
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* Dani: can be distracting while being on the call
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* Wayne: let's experiment with this in our next call
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* Dani: sounds good, but there should be a transcript of the chat that can be attached to the minutes of the meeting
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* Agreement to try it out via Mattermost, or other tool if Mattermost doesn't fit
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* '''AI Lars:''' organize the chat room for the next meeting, with Mattermost as first preference
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==== (Denis) Incubation mailing list ====
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* Would like to auto-subscribe a bunch of people, like mentors and incubator committers
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* Wayne explained the background, i.e. provide better mentoring and support for incubating projects
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* Dani: would be good to have a FAQ
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* Wayne: good idea, but every mentor must participate in this
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* Agreement that Denis can auto-subscribe the relevant folks
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==== (Wayne) LocationTech ====
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* The LocationTech working group does lots of cool stuff, but is somewhat disconnected from the Eclipse community
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* It's a challenge to find mentors for those projects
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* Would like to nominate two people from LocationTech working group to the AC
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* Asked whether a few AC members would vote +1
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* AC is OK with this, but the nomination must contain the achievements of the candidates
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* '''AI Wayne:''' nominate the candidates
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==== (Wayne) Great fixes/contributors for Neon ====
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* We had great bugs and great fixes contests
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* Would like to do a great contributors round this time
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* Has a tool that lists contributors with most contributions; currently Eric Williams at the top
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* AC to comment on that list
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* AC is OK to do this
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* '''AI Wayne:''' provide the list
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==== (Wayne) EclipseCon F2F ====
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* Room is reserved for the entire Thursday
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* Morning after keynote is reserved for Planning Council
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* Will try Google Hangouts, so that council members not visiting EclipseCon can also participate
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* '''AI Wayne:''' organize the Google Hangouts
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<!---
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=== General Topics ===
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* '''New AC Member candidates'''
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* '''Eclipse Infrastructure''' - git, Gerrit, Maven, Hudson, Bugzilla, ...
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* '''Updates from the Board or the EMO'''
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== Action Items  ==
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*No new action items.
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*Cleaned up old action items, see [[Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011]] for old stuff
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*(''old'') '''Tim''' write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
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*(''old'') '''Martin''' revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
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*(''old'') '''Martin''' {{bug|315210}} Make the AC mailing list open / moderated
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--->
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== Next Meeting  ==
 
== Next Meeting  ==
  
* [[Architecture Council/Meetings/March 10 2016]] -- potentially will be canceled in lieu of EclipseCon F2F
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* [[Architecture Council/Meetings/April 14 2016]]
  
 
[[Category:Architecture_Council_Meeting_Minutes]]
 
[[Category:Architecture_Council_Meeting_Minutes]]

Revision as of 10:23, 15 March 2016

Face-to-face meeting at EclipseCon 2016 (Joint with the Planning Council)

Meeting Title: Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time: Thursday Feb 11, 2016 at 1100 Ottawa
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Dial-in: Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call:
  • North America (toll free) 1-866-569-4992
  • Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) 49-692-2224-6059
  • France (local call anywhere in France) 33-17-070-8535
  • Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
  • Spain, Sweden, others - see Asterisk/Numbers

Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968

  • SIP clients can call 701@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 51968.

Attendees

All AC Members are invited.

  • PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT:
DTP:
Eclipse:
Modeling: Ed Merks Cédric Brun
Eike Stepper
Mylyn: Gunnar Wagenknecht Mik Kersten
RT: Ian Bull
SOA: Adrian Mos Marc Dutoo
Technology: Gunnar Wagenknecht Wayne Beaton
Tools: Doug Schaefer
WTP: David Williams
LocationTech:
PolarSys:

All Attendees

  • In attendance: Wayne Beaton, Denis Roy, Doug Schaefer, Eike Stepper, Martin Lippert, Alexsander Kurtakov, Jay Billings, Maximilian Kögel, Eike Stepper, Ed Merks, Gunnar Wagenknecht, David Williams, Ian Bull
  • Regrets:


Agenda / Notes

  1. FEEP Overview (Paul White)
  2. Every Detail Matters for the Neon Release
  3. AC/PC help with The Great Fixes programme
  4. Neon Release Status (David?)
  5. Project Mentoring is broken. What do we do about it?
  6. Impact of Eclipse Che
  7. Typical existential discussion

FEEP

Paul White started the meeting with a status report on FEEP.

  • We can only do as much work as there are funds available.
    • We've been receiving a steady stream of donations (consistent year over year)
    • ~$125K from last year's donations
  • Hired (moved) Mikael Barbero into development role.
    • Technical leader, but will do some development
    • Prioritize work
    • Point of contact for contractors
  • (Ed) Suggested that we let the community vote with dollars
    • (Paul) There are some challenges with this approach; we haven't explored this yet
    • Need to learn lessons from other orgs
  • FEEP work is staffed by Paul, Mike, Mikael, and Wayne
  • FEEP work done/in-progress
    • Ed worked on improving start up times
    • Obeo is working on autosave
    • Fabio is working on dark theme
    • Patrick Suzzi is doing bug triage for the platform
      • Will fix low-hanging fruit, validate bugs, close bugs that need to be closed, etc.
  • (Ian) Will FEEP money go to the entire commit chain?
    • (Paul) No (not necessarily)
    • (Doug) FEEP funding is no more special than an employer paying you to contribute

First technical discussion of the day:

  • (Ed) Dark theme just can't work. Technically not possible.
    • Must wrestle with SWT Platform fidelity.
    • Technical challenges are daunting
  • (Paul) People are trying to use it
    • Message that we're trying to send is to move it forward
  • (Eike) We (collectively) need to create a document that describes how to do theming

Next Meeting

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