DSDP/Packaging/Meetings/Jan 26 2009
- Wayne Parrot, Genuitec
- Eric Cloninger, Motorola
- Bob Frankel, TI
- Dave Russo, TI
- Doug Gaff, Wind River
- Martin Oberhuber, Wind River
- Doug Schaefer, Wind River
- Martin gives overview of what happened on Packaging so far
- Bob retiring from TI, doing own consultancy, increased on Universities (undergrads), what's being tought is too primitive (just flashing lights) - Eclipse/CDT is the IDE of choice
- Challenge: Must be 100% turnkey, would also like a book or a course
- TI still interested, willing to support any educational effort with (free) hardware
- Interested in some sort of real-time Kernel (not Linux) - to run e.g. on TI 16-bit processor
- Fears that if package tries to be "everything for everybody" it won't hit the spot.
- TI has existing CDT-based (old) toolset for 16-bit processor, could that be the base? - Will be used for 4-hour RTSC tutorial; includes a hosted simulator (faster than the hardware)
- DougG: http://freertos.org
- Eric: From TmL point of view, requires 32-bit processor running Linux
- No resources at this point
- Bob: BeagleBoard (150 USD)? - TI's OMAP device: http://beagleboard.org
- Wayne: FireFly (mobile web), appreciate real turnkey platform (for Java EE) WebKit, Opera, ...
- Genuitec has technology for packaging, installers
- Single package or separate package for mobile web?
- New kinds of apps that leverage the web; might eventually go for EPP package
- Intersted in packaging in the long run, e.g. multiple TmL simulated devices
- Bob: Like kernel.org: Eclipse etc are just platforms - how to support individual entity to start a packaging (multiple vertically focused distros) - support other communities e.g. BeagleBoard
- That's what we have today, nobody takes the initiative
- distro-makers newsgroup?
- DougS: Wascana, p2 technology, could be re-used;
- CDT cross-platform EclipseCon tutorial (QEMU in CDT, changing QEMU, Debian Linux)
- Only intends to do ZIP files
- Atmel has Eclipse toolchain to sell with their silicon: It's hard to be vendor neutral when talking about HW
- Dave Russo: RTSC to abstract the compiler toolchain
- Martin 3 flavors based on EclipseCon tutorials - do we just need to setup a website for people to download ZIP files? And call it the "package makers' project"
RTSC / TI ok with uploading stuff
- Doug CDT / Cross / QEMU: just wants to hand out DVDs, doesnt want to make his tutorial publicly available due to overhead/support cost - not interested in competing with Linux distro vendors
- Doesn't see people contribute
- Wascana going to download mingw directly from mingw site
- Why isn't there an Eclipse distro from BeagleBoard.org ?
- Bob: TI / g-forge basd server?
- Dave: People are interested in single-source cross/native environment
- Who could look at signing up for a site?