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* JDT & Platform news (by Dani Megert)
 
* JDT & Platform news (by Dani Megert)
 
* Status of the brainstorm about the future of the SimRel (by Mélanie Bats)
 
* Status of the brainstorm about the future of the SimRel (by Mélanie Bats)
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== Notes ==
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=== Oxygen & Photon status ===
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Photon M3 was a little bit tend
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Oxygen 2 RC1 is for December 20th
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Photon M4 on 15th
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No real issues at the moment.
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=== JDT & Platform news ===
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Java releases will occur in March & September every year.
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It was decided to keep the Simultaneous Release schedule stable as lots of projects are not interested by Java at all and so do not depend on the Oracle planning. So when necessary a ".a" version will be released as it was done for Oxygen1.
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The Eclipse SDK will change its release cadence after Photon to a release every 3 months. See the cross project mailing list for details : [https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg15021.html]
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JDT and Platform has decided to
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==== JDT dependent projects ====
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To avoid the problem that appeared during the last JDT update, it was discussed at ECE to list all the projects depending on the JDT. The purpose is to get an overview, then we have to decided what we will do next when a JDT update come out? Should the automated build must notified automatically those projects ?
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Here is the list of JDT dependent projects, that I gathered by scanning for "*.jdt*" in MANIFEST.MF files in all plugins (except JDT plugins) in the latests Photon release P2 repo:
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* List of JDT dependent projects
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**./org.apache.jasper (bundles jdt so not affected)
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**./org.eclipse.acceleo
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**./org.eclipse.ant (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
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**./org.eclipse.birt
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**./org.eclipse.bpmn2
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**./org.eclipse.buildship
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**./org.eclipse.cft
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**./org.eclipse.datatools
 +
**./org.eclipse.debug (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
 +
**./org.eclipse.dltk
 +
**./org.eclipse.e4 (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
 +
**./org.eclipse.eclemma
 +
**./org.eclipse.egf
 +
**./org.eclipse.egit
 +
**./org.eclipse.emf
 +
**./org.eclipse.epp
 +
**./org.eclipse.fx
 +
**./org.eclipse.gmt
 +
**./org.eclipse.graphiti
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**./org.eclipse.jem
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**./org.eclipse.jface (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
 +
**./org.eclipse.jpt
 +
**./org.eclipse.jst (WTP)
 +
**./org.eclipse.jubula
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**./org.eclipse.jwt
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**./org.eclipse.libra
 +
**./org.eclipse.linuxtools
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**./org.eclipse.lsp4e
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**./org.eclipse.m2e
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**./org.eclipse.m2m
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**./org.eclipse.modisco
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**./org.eclipse.mylyn
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**./org.eclipse.net4j
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**./org.eclipse.ocl
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**./org.eclipse.oomph
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**./org.eclipse.papyrus
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**./org.eclipse.pde (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
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**./org.eclipse.pmf
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**./org.eclipse.qvtd
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**./org.eclipse.rap
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**./org.eclipse.rcptt
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**./org.eclipse.recommenders
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**./org.eclipse.sapphire
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**./org.eclipse.scout
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**./org.eclipse.sirius
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**./org.eclipse.sphinx
 +
**./org.eclipse.swtbot
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**./org.eclipse.team (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
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**./org.eclipse.uml2
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**./org.eclipse.viatra
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**./org.eclipse.wb
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**./org.eclipse.wst (WTP)
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**./org.eclipse.xpand
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**./org.eclipse.xsd
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**./org.eclipse.xtend
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**./org.eclipse.xtext
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This includes optional dependencies.

Latest revision as of 08:11, 5 December 2017

Logistics

Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, November 10, 2017, at 1100 Noon Eastern
Dial in: Topic: PC call - Nov 10 only

Time: Nov 10, 2017 11:00 AM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

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Members

Planning Council Chair: Melanie Bats

Eclipse Foundation

  • Wayne Beaton
  • Frederic Gurr
  • Mikael Barbero

Strategic Members

  • CA Technologies
  • CEA LIST
  • Codenvy, S.A. (Tyler Jewell)
  • Ericsson AB (Marc Khouzam Marc-Andre Laperle)
  • IBM (Thomas Watson)
  • itemis AG (Alexander Nyssen)
  • OBEO (Melanie Bats)
  • Oracle (Neil Hauge)
  • Red Hat, Inc. (Nick Boldt)
  • Robert Bosch GmbH
  • SAP SE (Stephan Merker)

PMC Representatives

  • Business Intelligence and Reporting Tools (BIRT) PMC (Gary Xue)
  • Data Tools Platform PMC (Brian Payton)
  • Eclipse Cloud Development PMC (Martin Lippert)
  • Eclipse Project PMC (Dani Megert) - R
  • IoT
  • LocationTech Technology
  • Eclipse Modeling Project PMC (Ed Merks)
  • Mylyn (Application Lifecycle Tools) PMC (Sam Davis)
  • PolarSys
  • Eclipse Runtime Project (RT) PMC (Ian Bull)
  • Eclipse Science
  • Service Oriented Architecture PMC (Adrian Mos)
  • Technology PMC (Chris Aniszczyk)
  • Tools Project PMC (Aleksandar Kurtakov)
  • Eclipse Web Tools Platform Project (WTP) PMC (Carl Anderson)

Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact Wayne Beaton if questions.

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected

Previous meeting minutes

  • Review previous meeting minutes if you'd like. That is, review them before the meeting, but if questions or issues with previous minutes, this would be a good time to bring them up.

Agenda

  • Oxygen & Photon status (by Fred Gurr/Mikael Barbero)
  • JDT & Platform news (by Dani Megert)
  • Status of the brainstorm about the future of the SimRel (by Mélanie Bats)

Notes

Oxygen & Photon status

Photon M3 was a little bit tend Oxygen 2 RC1 is for December 20th Photon M4 on 15th

No real issues at the moment.

JDT & Platform news

Java releases will occur in March & September every year. It was decided to keep the Simultaneous Release schedule stable as lots of projects are not interested by Java at all and so do not depend on the Oracle planning. So when necessary a ".a" version will be released as it was done for Oxygen1.

The Eclipse SDK will change its release cadence after Photon to a release every 3 months. See the cross project mailing list for details : [1]

JDT and Platform has decided to

JDT dependent projects

To avoid the problem that appeared during the last JDT update, it was discussed at ECE to list all the projects depending on the JDT. The purpose is to get an overview, then we have to decided what we will do next when a JDT update come out? Should the automated build must notified automatically those projects ?

Here is the list of JDT dependent projects, that I gathered by scanning for "*.jdt*" in MANIFEST.MF files in all plugins (except JDT plugins) in the latests Photon release P2 repo:

  • List of JDT dependent projects
    • ./org.apache.jasper (bundles jdt so not affected)
    • ./org.eclipse.acceleo
    • ./org.eclipse.ant (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
    • ./org.eclipse.birt
    • ./org.eclipse.bpmn2
    • ./org.eclipse.buildship
    • ./org.eclipse.cft
    • ./org.eclipse.datatools
    • ./org.eclipse.debug (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
    • ./org.eclipse.dltk
    • ./org.eclipse.e4 (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
    • ./org.eclipse.eclemma
    • ./org.eclipse.egf
    • ./org.eclipse.egit
    • ./org.eclipse.emf
    • ./org.eclipse.epp
    • ./org.eclipse.fx
    • ./org.eclipse.gmt
    • ./org.eclipse.graphiti
    • ./org.eclipse.jem
    • ./org.eclipse.jface (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
    • ./org.eclipse.jpt
    • ./org.eclipse.jst (WTP)
    • ./org.eclipse.jubula
    • ./org.eclipse.jwt
    • ./org.eclipse.libra
    • ./org.eclipse.linuxtools
    • ./org.eclipse.lsp4e
    • ./org.eclipse.m2e
    • ./org.eclipse.m2m
    • ./org.eclipse.modisco
    • ./org.eclipse.mylyn
    • ./org.eclipse.net4j
    • ./org.eclipse.ocl
    • ./org.eclipse.oomph
    • ./org.eclipse.papyrus
    • ./org.eclipse.pde (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
    • ./org.eclipse.pmf
    • ./org.eclipse.qvtd
    • ./org.eclipse.rap
    • ./org.eclipse.rcptt
    • ./org.eclipse.recommenders
    • ./org.eclipse.sapphire
    • ./org.eclipse.scout
    • ./org.eclipse.sirius
    • ./org.eclipse.sphinx
    • ./org.eclipse.swtbot
    • ./org.eclipse.team (Eclipse TLP so released together with JDT)
    • ./org.eclipse.uml2
    • ./org.eclipse.viatra
    • ./org.eclipse.wb
    • ./org.eclipse.wst (WTP)
    • ./org.eclipse.xpand
    • ./org.eclipse.xsd
    • ./org.eclipse.xtend
    • ./org.eclipse.xtext

This includes optional dependencies.