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| Sunday, March 21, 2010, at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2010&month=03&day=21&hour=21&min=0&sec=0 UTC 2100 / 2:00 PM local time (Pacific, this time)] | | Sunday, March 21, 2010, at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2010&month=03&day=21&hour=21&min=0&sec=0 UTC 2100 / 2:00 PM local time (Pacific, this time)] | ||
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| − | | Location: | + | | Location: |
| − | | | + | | Bayshore room of the Hyatt Santa Clara. |
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| Dial-in: | | Dial-in: | ||
| − | | <del>For the call-in numbers, see the "Project Review" number on [https://dev.eclipse.org/portal/myfoundation/portal/portal.php Foundation Portal] page.</del> No dial-in for this meeting. | + | | <del>For the call-in numbers, see the "Project Review" number on [https://dev.eclipse.org/portal/myfoundation/portal/portal.php Foundation Portal] page.</del> No dial-in for this meeting. |
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== Attendees == | == Attendees == | ||
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| Chris Aniszczyk | | Chris Aniszczyk | ||
| Technology (PMC) | | Technology (PMC) | ||
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| John Arthorne | | John Arthorne | ||
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| Oliver Cole | | Oliver Cole | ||
| Tptp (PMC) | | Tptp (PMC) | ||
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| Brian Payton | | Brian Payton | ||
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| Anthony Hunter | | Anthony Hunter | ||
| Tools (PMC) | | Tools (PMC) | ||
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| Oisin Hurley | | Oisin Hurley | ||
| Stp (PMC) | | Stp (PMC) | ||
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| Ed Merks | | Ed Merks | ||
| Modeling (PMC) | | Modeling (PMC) | ||
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| Thomas Watson | | Thomas Watson | ||
| Rt (PMC) | | Rt (PMC) | ||
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| David Williams | | David Williams | ||
| WTP (PMC) (appointed Chair) | | WTP (PMC) (appointed Chair) | ||
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| Gary Xue | | Gary Xue | ||
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| Cedric Brun | | Cedric Brun | ||
| OBEO (Strategic Developer) | | OBEO (Strategic Developer) | ||
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| Stefan Daume | | Stefan Daume | ||
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| Neil Hauge | | Neil Hauge | ||
| Oracle (Strategic Developer) | | Oracle (Strategic Developer) | ||
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| Kaloyan Raev | | Kaloyan Raev | ||
| SAP AG (Strategic Developer) | | SAP AG (Strategic Developer) | ||
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| Markus Knauer | | Markus Knauer | ||
| Innoopract (Strategic Developer) | | Innoopract (Strategic Developer) | ||
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| Christian Kurzke | | Christian Kurzke | ||
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| Wayne Beaton | | Wayne Beaton | ||
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: Should we make (all) jars files available from common repository? (we currently remove some, when they have a pack.gz file, to save space). | : Should we make (all) jars files available from common repository? (we currently remove some, when they have a pack.gz file, to save space). | ||
| + | :: From meeting, it was agreed this was reasonable to expect both original jars and pack.gz files, with P2 compliant metadata, since that has been the expectation all along. While changes might be possible in the future (e.g. next year) its something that has to be worked through, and wide spread agreement achieved. | ||
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| + | :: To correct a statement I made at the meeting, there actually is a specification: [http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/review/jsr200/index.html Network Transfer Format JSR 200] though that wouldn't change to overall issue, it at least can shed some light. | ||
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What should "summaries" show? | What should "summaries" show? | ||
| − | === | + | === Process and seed list for Helios +1 === |
| − | + | See Last year's bug {{bug|271054}} | |
| − | * ? | + | |
| + | Rules and procedure for Helios +1 : | ||
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| + | Must be Greater than "H" (not too much greater, to leave room for later alphabetized names) but no | ||
| + | strict rule that is has to be literally "I" or "J". | ||
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| + | Preference given to names that fit the "moon", "gods", or "scientists" themes we've had so far but no | ||
| + | strict rule. | ||
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| + | We will have cross-project bugzilla open to solicit names until April 8. Then a series of | ||
| + | doodle polls to pick top choice. We will have multiple doodle polls, vote until majority achieved | ||
| + | (anyone know of a voting site that allows first, second, third choice? with "built in" runoff votes?) | ||
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| + | TODO: open bug this evening, so can be discussed at EclipseCon | ||
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| + | Planning council will remove any they deem "unsuitable" (as always). | ||
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| + | Final choice made by May 7 (Helios M7). | ||
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| + | Planning Council seed list: | ||
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| + | * <del>Janus</del> | ||
| + | * <del>Iccuris</del> | ||
| + | * Issac | ||
| + | * Ion | ||
| + | * Isis | ||
| + | * Iris | ||
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| + | === Anything to discuss for next year's release? === | ||
| + | |||
| + | Things to add/change/remove? | ||
| + | |||
| + | How to handle "3.7 stream" vs. "e4 stream"? | ||
| + | |||
| + | ==== IDE and Runtime-only items ==== | ||
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| + | : IDE Only items "installed" in EPP packages | ||
| + | |||
| + | : need to figure out better story for pre-packaged runtimes | ||
| + | |||
| + | : Tom and Chris agreed to handle. (will come up with some instructions/examples). | ||
== ToDo Items == | == ToDo Items == | ||
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* provide concrete instructions for (new) license-consistency requirement ... before M6? (John Arthorne). | * provide concrete instructions for (new) license-consistency requirement ... before M6? (John Arthorne). | ||
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== Other business == | == Other business == | ||
Latest revision as of 19:21, 31 March 2010
Contents
Logistics
| Meeting Title: | Planning Council Conference Call - EclispeCon F2F |
| Date & Time: | Sunday, March 21, 2010, at UTC 2100 / 2:00 PM local time (Pacific, this time) |
| Location: | Bayshore room of the Hyatt Santa Clara. |
| Dial-in: | |
Attendees
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PMC (and Strategic) Reps
Strategic Reps
Appointed
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Inactive
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Helios
- We require a repository, and we require an optimized repository, but turns out "what is a repository" is not agreed to by everyone. See bug 306300 and its predecessor bug 305939.
- Do we (Planning Council) agree on what a repository is?
- Is it fair to dictate/clarify that definition (now), for projects that want to participate in Simultaneous Release?
- has anyone investigated using unpack from a (pre-release) Java 7? Anyone willing to? See bug 290648
- Should we make (all) jars files available from common repository? (we currently remove some, when they have a pack.gz file, to save space).
- From meeting, it was agreed this was reasonable to expect both original jars and pack.gz files, with P2 compliant metadata, since that has been the expectation all along. While changes might be possible in the future (e.g. next year) its something that has to be worked through, and wide spread agreement achieved.
- To correct a statement I made at the meeting, there actually is a specification: Network Transfer Format JSR 200 though that wouldn't change to overall issue, it at least can shed some light.
Cross-Project Teams
Aggregation
Planning Council/Cross Project Teams/Aggregation
A new Aggregator is (nearly) ready for testing. I hope to run the new one in parallel with old one. Currently, I'd be reluctant to change the "official" one, this late in the cycle, unless there's really good, important reasons to.
Tracking progress and compliance
How is your tracking going?
PMC Representatives: please be prepared to give brief (verbal) summary of the state of your projects. (such as, how many participating, anyone "late" on required or optional things like Accessibility checklists, which were due by end of M6?)
What should "summaries" show?
Process and seed list for Helios +1
See Last year's bug bug 271054
Rules and procedure for Helios +1 :
Must be Greater than "H" (not too much greater, to leave room for later alphabetized names) but no strict rule that is has to be literally "I" or "J".
Preference given to names that fit the "moon", "gods", or "scientists" themes we've had so far but no strict rule.
We will have cross-project bugzilla open to solicit names until April 8. Then a series of doodle polls to pick top choice. We will have multiple doodle polls, vote until majority achieved (anyone know of a voting site that allows first, second, third choice? with "built in" runoff votes?)
TODO: open bug this evening, so can be discussed at EclipseCon
Planning council will remove any they deem "unsuitable" (as always).
Final choice made by May 7 (Helios M7).
Planning Council seed list:
-
Janus -
Iccuris - Issac
- Ion
- Isis
- Iris
Anything to discuss for next year's release?
Things to add/change/remove?
How to handle "3.7 stream" vs. "e4 stream"?
IDE and Runtime-only items
- IDE Only items "installed" in EPP packages
- need to figure out better story for pre-packaged runtimes
- Tom and Chris agreed to handle. (will come up with some instructions/examples).
ToDo Items
- create (and update) helios container plan (Wayne (re) volunteered)
- provide concrete instructions for (new) license-consistency requirement ... before M6? (John Arthorne).
Other business
- Reminder: face-face EclipseCon meeting 2:00 to 3:00 (local time) on the Sunday before EclispeCon (3/21) in the Bayshore room of the Hyatt Santa Clara.
- Followed by "joint meeting" with other councils.
Next Meeting
- April 7, Wednesday, Noon Eastern Time.
Reference
Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO