Logistics
| Meeting Title:
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Planning Council Conference Call
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| Date & Time:
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Wednesday, June 3, 2015, at 1200 Noon Eastern
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| Dial in:
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(See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, potential new numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)
Phone Numbers: (Check Asterisk/Numbers for more or current phone numbers.)
- For all phone lines: Participant conference extension: 710 then enter pin 35498
- Ottawa (local call in Ottawa) 1-613-454-1403
- North America (toll free) 1-866-569-4992
- Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) +49-692-2224-6059
- France (local call anywhere in France) +33-17-070-8535
- UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806
- Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
- call 710@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 35498.
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Members and Attendees
PMC (and Strategic) Reps
| John Arthorne (occasional)
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Cloud (PMC)
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R
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| Chris Aniszczyk
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Technology (PMC)
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| Dani Megert
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Eclipse (PMC)
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Y
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| Steffen Pingel (Sam Davis)
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Mylyn (ALM) PMC
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| Brian Payton
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Datatools (PMC)
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| Doug Schaefer
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Tools (PMC)
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Y
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| Adrian Mos (Marc Dutoo )
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SOA (PMC)
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| Ed Merks
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Modeling (PMC)
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| Ian Bull
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Rt (PMC)
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Y
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| Chuck Bridgham
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WTP (PMC)
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Y
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| Wayne Beaton
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Eclipse Foundation (appointed)
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| David Williams
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(appointed Chair)
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Y
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Strategic Reps
| Max Andersen? (and Nick Boldt)
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Redhat (Strategic Developer)
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Y
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| Remi Schnekenburger
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CEA List (Strategic Developer)
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Y
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| Cedric Brun
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OBEO (Strategic Developer)
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| Neil Hauge
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Oracle (Strategic Developer)
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| Stephan Merker
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SAP AG (Strategic Developer)
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R
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| Markus Knauer
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Innoopract (Strategic Developer)
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Y
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| Rajeev Dayal
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Google (Strategic Developer)
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| (PMC rep)
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Actuate (Strategic Developer)
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X
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| (PMC rep)
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IBM (Strategic Developer)
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X
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Inactive
| [no name]
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CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer)
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X
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| [no name]
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Birt (PMC)
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X
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Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.
Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected
Announcements
Previous meeting minutes
Mars Planning
- What happened to "WindowBuilder"?
Progress on Action Items
- Improving user experience in finding right function to install. For latest ideas, see
- bug 459905 - Create a Marketplace for the simultaneous release.
- "The action that [Wayne thinks] we should take is to shut down the Eclipse Project market and close this bug as WONTFIX."
- Continuing Discussion of if and how to change "yearly release"?
- I have started a "design" wiki page, to act as a "design document", to help centralize the main points we have discussed.
- Notes from the last meeting:
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- Seemed to be rough agreement that to "release more frequently" would be good ... for projects and perception.
- Was discussion that "6 per year" too many ... "2 per year" not enough. So settled on "4 per year" as a working assumption.
- Did not really discuss WHEN they would be (which months), but (I think) general agreement they should be regular, and predictable.
- Did not really discuss what to call them. We want to convey they are true releases, but, releases with no subsequent service release.
- "SR" name especially bad for perception, since it is not really just "service releases" any more.
- But, even if we had 4 releases per year, some might put in "just service", some might put in new features, so adds some complexity on what and how to communicate (with each other, and community).
- We would always (still) need "two streams" going ... one for "next immediate release", ... another stream for "long term work". (Or, may vary by project?)
- We did NOT discuss how to manage that ... would "long term work" be merged into "release" stream at certain points?
- We would (still) want something like a yearly "LTS Release".
- We did say it would take at least 2 months for us to have a concrete proposal.
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New Business
- * ?
Next Meeting
- August 5, 2015 - Regular First Wednesday Meeting -- We traditionally skip July, since a) just released b) Holidays and vacations.
Reference
- 2013 EclipseCon face-to-face follow-through action items. For original meeting notes, see Planning_Council/March_24_2013 and for discussion leading to action items, see Planning_Council/April_10_2013. For last status update, see Planning_Council/May_8_2013.
- Mars Wiki page
- Planning Council Members
- Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO
