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=== Proposed (initial) Cross-Project Teams  ===
 
=== Proposed (initial) Cross-Project Teams  ===

Revision as of 14:18, 6 January 2010

Logistics

Meeting Title: Planning Council Conference Call
Date & Time: Wednesday, January 06, 2010, at 1700 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1200 NYC / 1700 London / 1800 Berlin
Dial-in: For the call-in numbers, see the "Project Review" number on Foundation Portal page.

Attendees

PMC (and Strategic) Reps

Chris Aniszczyk Technology (PMC) Y
John Arthorne Eclipse (PMC) Y
Oliver Cole Tptp (PMC) Y
Brian Payton Datatools (PMC) Y
Doug Gaff ??? Dsdp (PMC)
Anthony Hunter Tools (PMC) Y
Oisin Hurley Stp (PMC) Y
Ed Merks Modeling (PMC) Y
Thomas Watson Rt (PMC) Y
David Williams WTP (PMC) (appointed Chair) Y
Gary Xue Birt (PMC) Y

Strategic Reps

Cedric Brun OBEO (Strategic Developer) Y
Stefan Daume Cloudsmith Inc.(Strategic Developer) R
Neil Hauge Oracle (Strategic Developer) Y
Kaloyan Raev SAP AG (Strategic Developer) R
Markus Knauer Innoopract (Strategic Developer) N
Christian Kurzke Motorola (Strategic Developer) N

Appointed

Wayne Beaton Eclipse Foundation (appointed) Y
Mike Milinkovich Eclipse Foundation (appointed)


Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time

Inactive

 ? Nokia (Strategic Developer) X
 ? CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer) X
 ? brox IT-Solutions GmbH (Strategic Developer) X


Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members we have not heard from in a year or so, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.


Galileo

Any SR2 issues? We will try RC1 as a rollup-warmup. RC2 will be true "release candidate".


Note: Remember we need to make SR2 "additive" with SR1 ... which

  1. requires some changes in builder to version categories
  2. provides opportunity for more testing?

Helios

  • John asks, What do we call this thing we do? "simultaneous release", "coordinated release", "annual release", "release train"?
  • And ... who releases it? "The Eclipse Foundation", "The Eclipse Community", "The Eclipse Projects"?

Resolved: best to use "Simultaneous Release" and "The Eclipse Foundation". (There was discussion that maybe "the PLanning Council" (but, no), and concerns that "the Community" was too inclusive, and "The Eclipse Projects", while correct :), is included as part of "The Eclipse Foundation".



  • Runtime
Where's Reina?
Tom to follow up with Reina and request exception if needed.

  • Technology
egit and linux-distros have "expressed intent" but since not in build, require an exception.
Wayne to follow up with these projects and request exception if appropriate. (He note 'egit' in particular was important to the "business" of Eclipse).


  • Modeling ... where to start? :)
What is EEF? They (Cedric?!) just today are adding themselves to build. Appears a clear case where an exception is required first?
Thanks to Cedric for reading agenda ahead of time and knowing he needs an exception. Him and Ed will discuss sending "formal" request to planning council list.
Ed acknowledge projects such as GMF "are hard to contact" due to changes in companies and individuals status ... but, he will work on and resolve, since GMF is so important.

  • How is the "one row == one release" rule looking?

Ed agreed to fix up his part of table ... as well as make sure the subprojects do "roll up" with in the primary rows.

We still need rep for dsdp.


TLP N Projects
BIRT 1
Datatools 1
DSDP 3 ?
Eclipse 1
RT 5
SOA 1
TPTP 1
Web Tools 1
Tools 6
Technology 6
Modeling 10?



Proposed (initial) Cross-Project Teams

Aggregation

Planning Council/Cross Project Teams/Aggregation

Structure of Common Discovery Site

users vs. extenders (minimum runtimes vs. SDKs)
runtime targets vs. tools
hierarchical categories (are more levels required?)

Tracking progress and compliance

Planning Council/Cross Project Teams/Tracking

Long Term

What needs to be done for e4?

ToDo Items

(volunteers welcome)

  • coordinate community input for next year's name (Oliver says last year this was started "shortly before EclipseCon" ... so, no rush).

Next Meeting

Reference

Helios Simultaneous Release

Planning Council Members

Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO

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