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[To those that attended: how was breakfast? Any "notes" relevant to Planning Council?] | [To those that attended: how was breakfast? Any "notes" relevant to Planning Council?] | ||
| − | * | + | * ''Wayne had "eggs and vegetables" which he highly recommends. :) |
| + | : Sounds like nothing concrete discussed, at breakfast or elsewhere, with direct actions needed. But, still some discussion of "what can go in an SR", and "do we need 6 month releases instead of yearly" were the types of topics discussed. | ||
== Mars Planning == | == Mars Planning == | ||
* Any issues? | * Any issues? | ||
| − | * Improving | + | * Improving user experience in finding right function to install. For latest ideas, see |
| − | :'' | + | : {{bug|459905}} - Create a Marketplace for the simultaneous release. |
| + | : ''Overall, would be "driven" by Eclipse Foundation, but they would need help from top level projects, and the Planning Council.'' | ||
* Moved "Sim Release Aggregation" to "[https://hudson.eclipse.org/simrel/ HIPP Instance]" (post M6). | * Moved "Sim Release Aggregation" to "[https://hudson.eclipse.org/simrel/ HIPP Instance]" (post M6). | ||
* Move Git access to require Gerrit URL {{bug||422215}}. | * Move Git access to require Gerrit URL {{bug||422215}}. | ||
| + | * Any issues with {{bug|463510}} - Use Java 7 in the infrastructure signing service? (Is currently Java 6). | ||
| + | :- Primarily effects "repack" users (of which PDE batch builds is main one). | ||
* Improved "aggregator examples/doc" (a long standing "to do" item). See [[Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build#The_best_format_and_process_for_contributing_to_Sim._Release| The best format and process for contributing to Sim. Release]]. | * Improved "aggregator examples/doc" (a long standing "to do" item). See [[Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build#The_best_format_and_process_for_contributing_to_Sim._Release| The best format and process for contributing to Sim. Release]]. | ||
:- Can I ask for one volunteer to "edit" the document (just that new section)? Proof read, makes sure it is understandable? Not too wordy? (Before I announce to the world.) | :- Can I ask for one volunteer to "edit" the document (just that new section)? Proof read, makes sure it is understandable? Not too wordy? (Before I announce to the world.) | ||
| − | :- When should we require and enforce "the first format"? Or, some variation of it? (Purpose is to be more "repeatable", and more useful to adopters.) | + | :''No volunteers. Will let community review''. |
| + | :- When should we require and enforce "the first format"? Or, some variation of it? (Purpose is to be more "repeatable", and more useful to adopters.) (See {{bug|419746}}) | ||
:- Does any one have, or can someone create a tool to "create the right format"? | :- Does any one have, or can someone create a tool to "create the right format"? | ||
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* Just curious, how's the [https://www.eclipse.org/projects/greatfix/ "greatfix competition"]? | * Just curious, how's the [https://www.eclipse.org/projects/greatfix/ "greatfix competition"]? | ||
| + | : ''Going well, according to Wayne. One unanticipated thing was when one person contributes many small fixes. No one of them is a "great fix", but as a whole is a significant contribution. Handling informally now, but next time my include in the rules or guidelines.'' | ||
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| + | * ''Spent a fair amount of time discussing late addition of Gradle (aka Eclipse Buildship). Some concern expressed about lateness, some alternatives discussed, but to some extent all premature since Wayne et. al. not ready to formally propose. One thing needed is some "community" of Gradle users (experts) who can test to "make sure it is ready".'' | ||
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| + | * ''Some '''potential''' security issues mentioned (one with Batik, one with Xerces and Java 9) but no action required at this time.'' | ||
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| + | * ''Good news is the "Java 9 team" has been testing Eclipse and several projects, and so far no huge problems found.'' | ||
== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
Latest revision as of 13:23, 1 April 2015
Contents
Logistics
| Meeting Title: | Planning Council Conference Call |
| Date & Time: | Wednesday, April 1, 2015, at 1200 Noon Eastern |
| Dial in: | (See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, potential new numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)
Phone Numbers: (Check Asterisk/Numbers for more or current phone numbers.)
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Members and Attendees
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Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.
Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected
Announcements
- ?
Previous meeting minutes
- Review previous meeting minutes if you'd like.
Naming Mars +1
- bug 453927 and bug 456732 - Naming Mars+1 (2016 Eclipse Simultaneous Release)
- Neon: 31 % is latest being vetted. Any status update?
EclipseCon 2015
[To those that attended: how was breakfast? Any "notes" relevant to Planning Council?]
- Wayne had "eggs and vegetables" which he highly recommends. :)
- Sounds like nothing concrete discussed, at breakfast or elsewhere, with direct actions needed. But, still some discussion of "what can go in an SR", and "do we need 6 month releases instead of yearly" were the types of topics discussed.
Mars Planning
- Any issues?
- Improving user experience in finding right function to install. For latest ideas, see
- bug 459905 - Create a Marketplace for the simultaneous release.
- Overall, would be "driven" by Eclipse Foundation, but they would need help from top level projects, and the Planning Council.
- Moved "Sim Release Aggregation" to "HIPP Instance" (post M6).
- Move Git access to require Gerrit URL bug comment 422215.
- Any issues with bug 463510 - Use Java 7 in the infrastructure signing service? (Is currently Java 6).
- - Primarily effects "repack" users (of which PDE batch builds is main one).
- Improved "aggregator examples/doc" (a long standing "to do" item). See The best format and process for contributing to Sim. Release.
- - Can I ask for one volunteer to "edit" the document (just that new section)? Proof read, makes sure it is understandable? Not too wordy? (Before I announce to the world.)
- No volunteers. Will let community review.
- - When should we require and enforce "the first format"? Or, some variation of it? (Purpose is to be more "repeatable", and more useful to adopters.) (See bug 419746)
- - Does any one have, or can someone create a tool to "create the right format"?
Progress on Action Items
- Improve "aggregator examples/doc". (dw -- done! With preliminary version, anyway).
New Business
- Just curious, how's the "greatfix competition"?
- Going well, according to Wayne. One unanticipated thing was when one person contributes many small fixes. No one of them is a "great fix", but as a whole is a significant contribution. Handling informally now, but next time my include in the rules or guidelines.
- Spent a fair amount of time discussing late addition of Gradle (aka Eclipse Buildship). Some concern expressed about lateness, some alternatives discussed, but to some extent all premature since Wayne et. al. not ready to formally propose. One thing needed is some "community" of Gradle users (experts) who can test to "make sure it is ready".
- Some potential security issues mentioned (one with Batik, one with Xerces and Java 9) but no action required at this time.
- Good news is the "Java 9 team" has been testing Eclipse and several projects, and so far no huge problems found.
Next Meeting
- May 6, 2015 - Regular First Wednesday Meeting.
Reference
- 2013 EclipseCon face-to-face follow-through action items. For original meeting notes, see Planning_Council/March_24_2013 and for discussion leading to action items, see Planning_Council/April_10_2013. For last status update, see Planning_Council/May_8_2013.