Equinox Minutes - 20080129

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Attendees

• John Arthorne
• Oleg Besedin
• Matt Flaherty
• DJ Houghton
• Simon Kaegi
• Tim Mok
• Andrew Niefer
• Pascal Rapicault
• Tom Watson

Topics

Lazy-Start vs. Bundle-Activation-Policy

What do we tell people, and what do we do for Equinox bundles?

• people have been asking what to do
• we need to provide direction
• if they switch, their bundles won't run in old (3.2) environments
• for instance SWT doesn't care what version or even if they are started
• people can use both headers if they want
• if you rely on something in the new Equinox, then use the new header
• currently a bug report open so they should add a native code header so they can run on other frameworks
• SWT actually looks for the JAR and does the extraction themselves
• will recommend that people just add in the new header and don't remove the old one
• PDE shouldn't give a warning (we asked them not to)
• they are adding a check to ensure that the headers are compatible
• tom to send note to eclipse-dev and cross-project-dev
• tom is looking at our bundles to update them so they run on other frameworks

Ganymede CQs

Two days until Ganymede CQ deadline - are all CQs in for Equinox?

• security work is done
• prosyst is done
• jetty is done
• there is a bug open to make the CQ requirements for graduation process clearer

Eclipse 3.4 M5

Coming soon... how do we look?

• andrew to talk to pde/ui to ensure p2 export stuff is good
• security
  • not much externally
  • doc review
  • working on kiosk login model
• p2
  • good progress
  • some pde integration
  • provide installer
  • some tooling work

API freeze

• should we send a note to the community reminding them about the api freeze if there are bugs out there that have slipped through the cracks.
• will ask at arch meeting for pmc member to remind community of API freeze
• are people able to determine whether or not their fix will require API?
• we need to go through the bug reports
• can use api keyword for bugs which require new api

p2 Post-M5

• talk to pmc
• graduation review feb 13
• pascal to prepare the slides (and call on others if necessary)

Package "uses" Clause

• tom sent note to mailing list
• can't do much for 3.4
• might add some timeouts and when we hit them, choose best combination so far

Bundle Format Header

• haven't made changes yet
• framework won't do anything with the header
• advice for provisioning and pde
• decided that Eclipse-BundleShape is good