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==Call-in Information==
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* Tuesdays from 2:05pm to 3:05pm (Eastern)
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* '''613.287.8000''' or '''866.362.7064''', passcode '''892048#'''
  
* Lazy-Start vs. Bundle-Activation-Policy: What do we tell people, and what do we do for Equinox bundles?
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==Attendees==
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* John Arthorne
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* Oleg Besedin
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* Matt Flaherty
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* DJ Houghton
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* Simon Kaegi
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* Tim Mok
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* Andrew Niefer
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* Pascal Rapicault
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* Tom Watson
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==Topics==
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===Lazy-Start vs. Bundle-Activation-Policy===
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What do we tell people, and what do we do for Equinox bundles?
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* people have been asking what to do
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* we need to provide direction
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* if they switch, their bundles won't run in old (3.2) environments
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* for instance SWT doesn't care what version or even if they are started
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* people can use both headers if they want
 +
* if you rely on something in the new Equinox, then use the new header
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* currently a bug report open so they should add a native code header so they can run on other frameworks
 +
* SWT actually looks for the JAR and does the extraction themselves
 +
* will recommend that people just add in the new header and don't remove the old one
 +
* PDE shouldn't give a warning (we asked them not to)
 +
* they are adding a check to ensure that the headers are compatible
 +
* tom to send note to eclipse-dev and cross-project-dev
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* tom is looking at our bundles to update them so they run on other frameworks
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===Ganymede CQs===
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Two days until Ganymede CQ deadline - are all CQs in for Equinox?
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* security work is done
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* prosyst is done
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* jetty is done
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* there is a bug open to make the CQ requirements for graduation process clearer
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===Eclipse 3.4 M5===
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Coming soon... how do we look?
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* andrew to talk to pde/ui to ensure p2 export stuff is good
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* security
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** not much externally
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** doc review
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** working on kiosk login model
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* p2
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** good progress
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** some pde integration
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** provide installer
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** some tooling work
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===API freeze===
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* should we send a note to the community reminding them about the api freeze if there are bugs out there that have slipped through the cracks.
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* will ask at arch meeting for pmc member to remind community of API freeze
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* are people able to determine whether or not their fix will require API?
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* we need to go through the bug reports
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* can use api keyword for bugs which require new api
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===p2 Post-M5===
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* talk to pmc
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* graduation review feb 13
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* pascal to prepare the slides (and call on others if necessary)
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===Package "uses" Clause===
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* tom sent note to mailing list
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* can't do much for 3.4
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* might add some timeouts and when we hit them, choose best combination so far
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===Bundle Format Header===
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* haven't made changes yet
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* framework won't do anything with the header
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* advice for provisioning and pde
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* decided that Eclipse-BundleShape is good

Latest revision as of 15:20, 29 January 2008

Call-in Information

  • Tuesdays from 2:05pm to 3:05pm (Eastern)
  • 613.287.8000 or 866.362.7064, passcode 892048#

Attendees

  • John Arthorne
  • Oleg Besedin
  • Matt Flaherty
  • DJ Houghton
  • Simon Kaegi
  • Tim Mok
  • Andrew Niefer
  • Pascal Rapicault
  • Tom Watson

Topics

Lazy-Start vs. Bundle-Activation-Policy

What do we tell people, and what do we do for Equinox bundles?

  • people have been asking what to do
  • we need to provide direction
  • if they switch, their bundles won't run in old (3.2) environments
  • for instance SWT doesn't care what version or even if they are started
  • people can use both headers if they want
  • if you rely on something in the new Equinox, then use the new header
  • currently a bug report open so they should add a native code header so they can run on other frameworks
  • SWT actually looks for the JAR and does the extraction themselves
  • will recommend that people just add in the new header and don't remove the old one
  • PDE shouldn't give a warning (we asked them not to)
  • they are adding a check to ensure that the headers are compatible
  • tom to send note to eclipse-dev and cross-project-dev
  • tom is looking at our bundles to update them so they run on other frameworks

Ganymede CQs

Two days until Ganymede CQ deadline - are all CQs in for Equinox?

  • security work is done
  • prosyst is done
  • jetty is done
  • there is a bug open to make the CQ requirements for graduation process clearer

Eclipse 3.4 M5

Coming soon... how do we look?

  • andrew to talk to pde/ui to ensure p2 export stuff is good
  • security
    • not much externally
    • doc review
    • working on kiosk login model
  • p2
    • good progress
    • some pde integration
    • provide installer
    • some tooling work

API freeze

  • should we send a note to the community reminding them about the api freeze if there are bugs out there that have slipped through the cracks.
  • will ask at arch meeting for pmc member to remind community of API freeze
  • are people able to determine whether or not their fix will require API?
  • we need to go through the bug reports
  • can use api keyword for bugs which require new api

p2 Post-M5

  • talk to pmc
  • graduation review feb 13
  • pascal to prepare the slides (and call on others if necessary)

Package "uses" Clause

  • tom sent note to mailing list
  • can't do much for 3.4
  • might add some timeouts and when we hit them, choose best combination so far

Bundle Format Header

  • haven't made changes yet
  • framework won't do anything with the header
  • advice for provisioning and pde
  • decided that Eclipse-BundleShape is good

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