DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006
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Dial-in numbers and passcodes have changed for this call only. We'll revert to our regular numbers next month.
| Meeting Title: | Conference Call on Target Management |
| Date & Time: | Wednesday November 8, 2006 at 1700 UTC / 9am PST |
| International Dial-in | +1 314 655 1411 |
| North American Dial-In | +1 877 422 0035 |
| Passcode: | 764918# |
Attendees
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Ted Williams, Michael Scharf
- IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo
- Motorola - Christian Kurzke, Ruth Soliani, Maureen Brenner
Agenda
Recent Download Statistics
| Component | M4 | M5 | RC1 | RC2 | RC3 | RC4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Date | 18-Aug | 22-Sep | 08-Oct | 20-Oct | 30-Oct | 03-Nov |
| RSE-SDK | 4 | 38 | 164 | 177 | 113 | 68 |
| rseserver-windows | 1 | 11 | 70 | 62 | 24 | 34 |
| rseserver-linux | 1 | 6 | 39 | 28 | 19 | 9 |
| rse.core (Update Site) | 66 | 46 | 72 | 28 | ||
| Total | 230 | 223 | 185 |
- Download Statistics Analysis
- RC1 was just after the "getting mature" blog (18-Sep)
- RC2 was just after the "release test" blog (11-Oct); also, 20-Oct was the originally planned release date
- Most people still prefer the SDK, although the update site is gaining momentum
- On the update site, 60% get the .jar.pack.gz but 40 % get the .jar file
- Looking at RC1, Grouping by country is:
- RSE-SDK: Germany=38, China=26, US=25, France=10, Canada=8, Turkey=7, Austria=6
- Update Site: US=23, France=10, Sweden=4, Austria=3 China=3, Denkmark=3, Germany=3, Italy=3
- rseserver: Germany=20, US=19, China=7, France=6, Belgium=6
Update on RSE Status
- All blockers towards RSE 1.0 resolved finally - about files review finally done by emo
- New TM FAQ on TM and RSE FAQ
- Project Plan status
- CDT Launcher now works on dstore as well
- Jakarta commons-net - working fine for FTP
- JUnit tests - due to slow legal approval, we now have a framework but no tests yet
- Going to join Europa Simultaneous Release
- Comments regarding the 1.0 release?
- Great work - using RSE almost daily (Michael Scharf)
Documentation: Which are the best places to start with?
- RSE Developer Docs
- From the TM Getting Started page: Eclipse Summit Europe Architecture Overview Slides
- From the Developer Docs: Chicago Meeting Brainstorming Notes, Chicago Meeting Overview Slides
- Use Cases document (old now but still up-to-date -- everybody agreed that this is where we want to get to)
- Upcoming Tutorial for EclipseCon2007
Motorola - Christian Kurzke
- Dev.environment for all Motorola hardware, going Eclipse now (also new TmL project)
- Interested in contributing towards version 2: bring requirements to the table, TM for cellphones, embedded settop boxes
- Looks like there is a lot of existing support for Linux workstations; new requirements coming for "bare metal" stuff; Motorola's requirements are somewhere in the middle
- Maureen to get in closer touch technically
Community's most wanted - who's working on what?
- Wicked Shell
- WR Terminalview: Michael Scharf currently heavily refactoring this, such that connection can be exchanged; hopes to be finished in the next few days --> FAQ
- There is usage for both commandview (line-based text output) and terminalview
- Plans to extend RSE more to the target? (native agent) FAQ
- Until recently, the strategy was that companies already have proprietary agents, and they'd write extensions to RSE that integrates with the existing proprietary agent
- There seems to be field demand for an Open Source agent solution; TPTP already has a Framework for agents; might investigate an integration of RSE with the TPTP agent in the future, rather than developing yet another agent. Symbian thinks about adding this to RSE 2.0
- TPTP is C++, which might be a problem on some very small devices; but Motorola to look at it
- Motorola has proprietarty C-based agent now; want an agent framework that can be extended, such that agent extensions (modules) can be downloaded
- Writing a native C implementation of the DStore agent might also be an option
- Christian wrote something like an OSGi framework in native code for dynamic loading of modules, might be an interesting starting point
- Questions? Requests?
Communications
- After 1.0, committers will have a 6-week phase of maintenance, doc update, polishing etc. culminating in RSE 1.0.1 mid december; gives time to work on themes and priorities for RSE 2.0
- Please fill in RSE 2.0 Planning - your "wishlist"
- Collaborations with other projects (Platform/Team, PTP, CDT, TPTP, WTP, ECF, Aperi, g-Eclipse)
- Martin wants Platform/Team to get ssh2 preference page under category "Connections"
- Javier in contact with ECF for service discovery
- Michael: DD project has new views for async updates of trees; might be a better view for the RSE tree
- Technology sub-groups
- Update on Autodetect (Javier)
- Currently no plans to extend discovery beyond what's already there; waiting for community input
- Update on Autodetect (Javier)
- What's the preferred way of communicating - newsgroup or dev-mailing list?
- The newsgroup is not very active, we are using the dsdp-tm-dev list for most communications (probably because most users are also interested in contributing)
Action Items to Review
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Oct-2006
New Action Items
- Everybody - Get latest RSE I-builds (download page), sanity-check (RSE 1.0 Test Instructions page) and verify late bug fixes (Bugzilla: RSE bugs fixed last week)
- Everybody - Review and edit the RSE 2.0 Planning page
- Maureen to try RSE, review docs, and get in contact with the dsdp-tm-dev list (probably setup a 1-on-1 talk)
- Christian to look at options for Open Remote Agents (TPTP and others)
- Martin - add FAQ items for Commandview vs. Terminal, Remote Native Agents
- DaveD - begin EMO review submission for SSH/Processes patch from MontaVista
Next Meeting
- Next DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Dec-2006 (Wednesday, 4 weeks)