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* '''Skype Call Quality''' | * '''Skype Call Quality''' | ||
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* {{Bug|227750}} [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems -- DaveD: Sounds like should be deferred to 3.1 | * {{Bug|227750}} [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems -- DaveD: Sounds like should be deferred to 3.1 | ||
* {{Bug|230917}} [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- '''AI Xuan''' look at, probably move to 3.0.1 during weekend | * {{Bug|230917}} [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- '''AI Xuan''' look at, probably move to 3.0.1 during weekend | ||
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=== Questions === | === Questions === | ||
* '''DaveD''' context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: {{Bug|208062}} | * '''DaveD''' context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: {{Bug|208062}} | ||
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=== '''Old Stuff''' === | === '''Old Stuff''' === | ||
* '''Unit Tests''' - next priority after API | * '''Unit Tests''' - next priority after API | ||
* Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc) | * Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc) | ||
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* '''Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests''' | * '''Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests''' | ||
** Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan | ** Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan | ||
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** Current situation is on [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=&y_axis_field=assigned_to&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfieldfrom=2007-09-17&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&format=table&action=wrap&negate0=1&field0-0-0=resolution&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=DUPLICATE this bugzilla report] | ** Current situation is on [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/report.cgi?x_axis_field=&y_axis_field=assigned_to&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&chfieldfrom=2007-09-17&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_status&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&format=table&action=wrap&negate0=1&field0-0-0=resolution&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=DUPLICATE this bugzilla report] | ||
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== Vacation, away == | == Vacation, away == | ||
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
− | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting | + | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 5-Jun-2008#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items |
* '''Everyone''': | * '''Everyone''': | ||
** Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 / 3.1 what we can | ** Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 / 3.1 what we can | ||
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** Update the New&Noteworthy (Martin will send a separate E-Mail) | ** Update the New&Noteworthy (Martin will send a separate E-Mail) | ||
** Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests | ** Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests | ||
− | * '''DaveD''': | + | * '''DaveD''': Test initial install of RC2 from Ganymede (CDT, EMF dependencies!); Test JEE package (when available as RC3); Prioritize {{Bug|235221}}; Commit {{Bug|234215}}; Prepare EFS Userdocs along the lines of [[TM and RSE FAQ#Why is the Outline View empty when editing a remote PHP or C file?]] |
− | * '''DaveM''': {{bug|233480}} - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension | + | * '''DaveM''': Commit {{bug|199596}}, {{bug|234038}}; File new bug for tableview issue; work with Martin on {{bug|233461}}; {{bug|233480}} - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension |
* '''Kevin''': - | * '''Kevin''': - | ||
* '''Rupen''': - | * '''Rupen''': - | ||
− | * '''Xuan''': | + | * '''Xuan''': Text Import/Export; Look at {{Bug|230917}} Archive Handler Unittests |
− | * '''Martin''': Update Project Plan; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan | + | * '''Martin''': Run performance tests for {{bug|233461}}; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Tell DaveD when JEE RC3 is ready; Prepare I-build for {{bug|233461}} when done; Update Project Plan; File new bug for {{bug|165171}}; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan |
* '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS | * '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS | ||
* '''Michael''': Terminal: Try to fix {{bug|185348}}, {{bug|204796}} | * '''Michael''': Terminal: Try to fix {{bug|185348}}, {{bug|204796}} | ||
* '''Uwe''': - | * '''Uwe''': - | ||
− | * '''Rado''': | + | * '''Rado''': - |
* '''Felix''': - | * '''Felix''': - | ||
* '''Eugene''': - | * '''Eugene''': - | ||
== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
− | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting | + | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 25-Jun-2008]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2008&month=6&day=25&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1000 Rochester / 1100 Toronto / 1700 Salzburg] |
* Monthly [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Jul-2008]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7&day=2&year=2008&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 9am PST / 1600 UTC] | * Monthly [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Jul-2008]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7&day=2&year=2008&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 9am PST / 1600 UTC] | ||
Latest revision as of 13:08, 2 July 2008
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Monday June 9, 2008 at 1600 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1100 Rochester / 1200 Toronto / 1800 Salzburg |
Dial-in: | Martin to call everybody by Skype |
Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.
Contents
Invited Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian, Kevin Doyle
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus
- ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
- MontaVista - Anna Dushistova
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Agenda
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 5-Jun-2008
- Skype Call Quality
- Welcome Anna!
New Stuff
- DSDP/TM/3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede
- We have RC3, so from now on EVERY checkin must get a +1 by two reviewers BEFORE (except emergencies, documentation-only or unittest-only things). Also applies to "incubation". Rules do not apply to TCF
- Please do NOT only ask me for reviewing, it doesn't scale
- TM 3.0 RC2 Testing Status (as per yesterday's E-Mail)
- Test Configurations -- especially for bug 231453 from cross-project list
- TM installed into Eclipse 3.4 dropins/ -- That's what we always do
- TM installed into Eclipse 3.3. -- Martin has target platform against 3.3 now
- TM as part of the JEE Package -- AI DaveD, or Kevin; AI Martin tell Dave when JEE has TM RC3
- TM initial install from TM Update Site -- Martin
- Ganymede TM initial install from Ganymede --
- Dependencies: When Remotecdt / Discovery selected, CDT / EMF must be installed automatically
- DaveD: Quicktest on official Ganymede Site with RC2 (today), RC3 again when available
- Update Scenarios
- Updating 3.0 to 3.0.1 -- referencing TM site, not Gany site -- 3.0RC3 to I-build -- AI Martin
- Updating TM 2.0 to 3.0 -- Eclipse 3.3/TM 2.0 (including discovery, cdt), use TM 3.0 update site, update to TM 3.0 -- AI Martin
- Test Configurations -- especially for bug 231453 from cross-project list
- Test Areas
- Connection Import / Export -- AI Xuan
- Documentation: Correct hyperlinks
- Feature Versions, About Files, ...
- Test Areas
Hot Bugs being discussed
- bug 233461 Refresh expanded Folders -- IFileService#list to return children and parent in one step, how to be API compatible?
- DaveM: Not in favor of changing API, don't expect getFile() to be expensive, Cache in Service Layer. Against explicit API change. Plain semantic change is the least of the evils.
- Martin against Caching on Service Layer.
- Original bug as specified must be fixed - want the fix in there as soon as possible, because it fixes IRemoteFile problems
- AI Martin can easily adapt unittests to run performance metrics
- Split up the bug: Original bug 233461 for the original problem only, include a small patch WITHOUT API change but with unittests. Create a new bug for the API Changes / Preformance Improvements, with the 2nd part of the patch. Discuss API separately. Original bug to be committed into an I-build today. AI Martin and Dave to hook up on Skype later today.
- bug 235600 Downrev ftp, local, ssh, telnet features to 2.1.0 was intentional!
- bug 235221 Files truncated on exit of Eclipse -- AI DaveD prioritize bug
- bug 199596 [refresh][ftp] Changing a file/folder's Read-Only attribute doesn't always update IRemoteFile -- is it fixed now? -- patch not yet committed?
- bug 234038 [files][refresh] Changing file permissions does not update property sheet or refresh tree -- is it fixed? -- patch not yet committed? -- AI DaveM create new bug for Tableview
- bug 235145 Remove Create Project Action -- DaveD: Document the process of creating a remote project, but get rid of the action? - Martin: See FAQ,
- Decision: Action is not ready for products, therefore remove it now or allow to programmatically disable it
- bug 234026 [apidoc] IFileService#createFolder() does not specify whether parent folders are created
- Update Service Docs and Impl to make the Service create parent folders
- bug 227750 [efs][regression] Eclipse with RSE 3.0 don't start or Display problems -- DaveD: Sounds like should be deferred to 3.1
- bug 230917 [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- AI Xuan look at, probably move to 3.0.1 during weekend
Plan for Next Steps
- Bug Triage
- AI Everyone must review your assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 where possible
- All "3.0" assigned bugs must be triaged now and either assigned a proper RC milestone or 3.0.1 (with the exception of Documentation-only fixes)
- Work on remaining ones by priority
- Open RC2 Assigned bugs, open 3.0 Assigned bugs
- Severity Major, Hi-Priority
- Current Statistics: 1 blocker (Martin), 1 critical (Martin), 8 major (DaveD, Kevin, Martin, Michael), 23 other P2's -- was 10 major / 20 P2's last week
- Community contributions: Only few unapplied patches right now, last chance to apply now before 3.0 (see also the Bug Process Page for a query)
- Martin's new Build System for Dave
- In the works
- New and Noteworthy
- I'll need a list of new features for a New&Noteworthy, and for the Release Review. Release Review material is due next week.
- See CDT/User/NewIn50 for example; for TM, I put most news into our Build Notes already, so it should be possible to compile the N&N out of the build notes
- For the N&N, please make screenshots and work on "your" new features, e.g.
- Useractions
- Cleanup Work
- Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do. What do we consider must-have's?
- Unittests, unittests, unittests!
- New releng scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org (Martin: must-have before his vacation)
- Copyright Year Updates (Run the releng Copyrights Tool)
- Migration Notes (for 2.0 / for 1.0?)
- API Tooling Javadocs(@noextend and friends) - bug 227368, bug 225529 comment 4 and bug 225529 comment 6 - DSDP/TM/Code Ownership
- Review and improve Userdocs; we have several open bugs here
- Review and improve Javadocs; lots still missing, unclear, duplicated
- Fix broken hyperlinks in the docs, fix HTML/XML errors (which can make the indexer not work)
- Get rid of compiler warnings wherever possible
- Add more Unittests -- ideally write an accompanying unittest for every bugfix
- Run Findbugs -- Update site on http://findbugs.cs.umd.edu/eclipse, Quickdocs by Rado in tm-dev E-Mail
- Question about filtering false positives posted on fb-discuss link
- TM Website: revamp should really be complete for Ganymede! Kevin and Martin won't have time. DaveD will try to get to it, but cannot promise.
- Besides the hi-priority issues, there is a LOT of cleanup to do. What do we consider must-have's?
Questions
- DaveD context menu on SystemView / TeamView: something going on with the way how items are being added. Bringing up the context menu immediately after startup shows some debugger related stuff. Martin: bug 208062
Old Stuff
- Unit Tests - next priority after API
- Migrating to new Releng on dsdp.eclipse.org (adopt P2, nightly tests, signing etc)
- Bugzilla:
- Quality, Backlog and Unit Tests
- Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
- Current situation is on this bugzilla report
Vacation, away
- Martin vacation June 11 - 22 -- AI Martin finish and test the new Build scripts on dsdp.eclipse.org till then
- DaveM vacation June 16 - 20
- DaveD in July
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everyone:
- Triage 3.0 and earlier assigned bugs and move to 3.0.1 / 3.1 what we can
- Add @noextend etc according to DSDP/TM/Code Ownership table;
- Update the New&Noteworthy (Martin will send a separate E-Mail)
- Bug fixes, cleanup, unittests
- DaveD: Test initial install of RC2 from Ganymede (CDT, EMF dependencies!); Test JEE package (when available as RC3); Prioritize bug 235221; Commit bug 234215; Prepare EFS Userdocs along the lines of TM and RSE FAQ#Why is the Outline View empty when editing a remote PHP or C file?
- DaveM: Commit bug 199596, bug 234038; File new bug for tableview issue; work with Martin on bug 233461; bug 233480 - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension
- Kevin: -
- Rupen: -
- Xuan: Text Import/Export; Look at bug 230917 Archive Handler Unittests
- Martin: Run performance tests for bug 233461; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Tell DaveD when JEE RC3 is ready; Prepare I-build for bug 233461 when done; Update Project Plan; File new bug for bug 165171; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan
- Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
- Michael: Terminal: Try to fix bug 185348, bug 204796
- Uwe: -
- Rado: -
- Felix: -
- Eugene: -