DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 6-Feb-2008

Meeting Title:	TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time:	Wednesday Feb 6, 2007 at 1600 UTC / 1100 Eastern
Dial-in:	Martin to call everybody by Skype

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MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Attendees

• IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Kevin Doyle, Dave Dykstal, Rupen Mardirossian
• Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov
• Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orus

Notes

• Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Jan-2008

Current Work

• Skype Call Quality
  • Excellent even with 9 participants (8 + organizer). This is the Maximum that Skype supports, so we could meet on Skype only because Michael had another appointment.
• M5 upcoming - Test and endgame plan?
  • Want M5 finished by Friday Feb 15 --> Risky checkins to be complete by Friday Feb 8 --> Test run on Tuesday Feb 12
  • First PII drop on Feb 25th, Deadline until end of M6; try to minimize any wholesale changes after Feb.25th
  • PII Changes for UI/Non-UI Splitting e.g. bug 190231 SubSystem, bug 211067 SystemMessages in Services
  • 3.0 M5 assigned open bugs
    • SystemMessages UI/Core separation - AI DaveM to investigate
      • DaveD prefer to have standard NLS strings only
• TM 2.0.3 upcoming Feb.29 -- 2.0.3 assigned bugs, any else?
  • AI All file 'backport' bugs for 2.0.3 until end of this week
• Eugene new committer
  • Martin wants TCF to be discussed more in the Open. Currently mostly Wind River engagement, but more to come (Power.org; ECSI Debug Standards Workshop).
  • TCF is mostly separate from RSE technology. AI Martin create separate Bugzilla component for TCF.
• Can we commit to support Java 6 (just runtime)?
  • YES. Develop against Java 1.4 and test against Java 6. Main topic is incorporation of scripting. Eclipse Debugger supports finding references of objects.
• TM Website
  • bug 216197 Bugs link on the side nav bar is broken by that latest changes
  • Kevin: Discussions fine so far, not touched the code yet?
  • Martin: Would like to get more dynamic information onto the homepage in an automated manner e.g. automated release notes with milestones. Avoid merging errors if starting work end this week.
• Bug Fixing - Remember our 2-fix-per-week / 3 unittests-per-milestone plan
  • Since our DSDP/TM/Face-to-face Meeting Toronto 17-Sep-2007 it's now 20 weeks / 4 milestones, so each committer is due 40 fixes / 8 unittests
  • Current situation is on this bugzilla report
  • Unittests: Xuan, DaveM, Javier added some; Martin 0; not sure about others; Martin working on Releng scripts next
• Next BugDay/February_2008 on Feb 29
• Javier busy until end of Feb; no time for Eclipse currently
• DaveD's lazy init done. bug 217556 ServiceSubSystem
  • What if a subsystem does not have a service layer? - Return null for getServiceType()
  • Existing code that checks whether something has a service needs to be changed: AI DaveD Find references to IServiceSubSystem
  • bug 217894 Subsystem Configuration Families - subsystem category would be orthogonal to subsystem family -- family would be related to connector service -- AI All comment on the bug
  • Import/export connections rather than profiles - extend the persistence provider for import/export. Use a profile that only contains those things relevant to the exported elements, and merge it on import (or instantiate + copy).
    • Uwe: Contributors may have their own format for import/export already
    • This is maybe related to bug 160403 Filters should be connection-private by default
• DaveM: -
  • bug 212742 Util for sending commands and receiving output without echo
    • Martin would like to see with M5 for EclipseCon tutorial; but it seems to work OK with SSH and dstore? AI Martin review the bug
  • bug 216252, bug 190231 and bug 211067 split resource strings and systemMessages into UI and Core - would like to get NLS refactorings done for the PII drop on Feb 25
  • EFS and encodings - No response from platform or TPF teams
  • (TPF) product teams extended SystemView in the past, no response from them
• Kevin: -
• Xuan: - Need to add plugin org.eclipse.rse.useractions into build. Needed by IBM (after M5)
  • Martin: will need to be a separate downloadable component.
• Martin: - Need to put Project Plan on the Web; Update Releng scripts to automatically run unit tests at night
• Uwe: -
• Rupen: - bug 210682 - Multi-file conflict resolution on Copy - dialog ready, jpeg posted on the bug
  • Want to get current state (functional dialog) committed and treat changes via separate bugs. Issues with cross-subsystem copies
• Michael: -
• Questions

• Bugzilla:
  • Severity Major, hi-priority

Vacation, Away

• DaveD on vacation Feb 18-21
• Feb.18 is Family Day in Ontario

Action Items

• Last Meeting Action Items
• Everyone: consider fixes for 2.0.3 backport until end of this week; comment on bug 217894 by DaveD
• DaveD: Find references to IServiceSubSystem, review refactoring
• DaveM: Investigate bug 190231, bug 211067 SystemMessages UI/Core Separation
• Xuan:
• Kevin: webpage redesign (next week)
• Martin: Review bug 212742 util for commands+results; TCF Bugzilla Component; New RSE Releng + unit tests; Write-up TM 3.0 Plan; Look at PropertyDescriptor issues;
• Javier: fixes, unit tests; document the Symbian internal test setup similar to CVS -- see also CVS_Development#Testing
• Michael: Terminal improvements

Next Meeting

• DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Feb-2008 (2 weeks) at 1600 UTC
• Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 5-Mar-2008 at 9am PST / 1700 UTC