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− | | | + | | Tuesday [[Oct 31, 2006]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2006&month=10&day=31&hour=16&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg] |
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* IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir | * IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir | ||
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | * Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | ||
− | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber; Michael Scharf (absent), Ted Williams (absent) |
− | * Tradescape - Lothar Werzinger | + | * Tradescape - Lothar Werzinger |
== Agenda == | == Agenda == | ||
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** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site | ** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site | ||
* Latest News | * Latest News | ||
− | ** Martin -- | + | ** Martin -- [[RSE 1.0 Testing round 3]]; bugfixes; releasing RC3; about files still pending! |
− | ** DaveD -- | + | ** DaveD -- bugfixing, verification; some lo-pri filter bugs still pending |
− | ** DaveM -- | + | ** DaveM -- testing & verification |
− | ** Kushal -- | + | ** Kushal -- testing & verification |
− | ** Javier -- | + | ** Javier -- bug verification, FTP testing |
− | ** Ted -- | + | ** Ted -- n/a (jury duty) |
− | ** Uwe -- | + | ** Uwe -- Windriver stuff |
− | ** Michael -- | + | ** Michael --n/a |
** Other News -- | ** Other News -- | ||
* Top Priorities this week: | * Top Priorities this week: | ||
** '''#1 - Hi-priority bugfixing''' - please observe the priorities. | ** '''#1 - Hi-priority bugfixing''' - please observe the priorities. | ||
** '''#2 - Being responsive''' | ** '''#2 - Being responsive''' | ||
+ | * Looking back on [[RSE 1.0 Testing round 3]] | ||
+ | ** committers can set to CLOSED right away instead of setting VERIFIED | ||
+ | ** Filter questions by LotharW | ||
+ | *** Programmatically use the remote file selection dialog to restrict it to some filter | ||
+ | *** DaveM: Changing the root of the remote systems tree in the dialog should be possible | ||
+ | *** DaveM: would like a dialog that's not tree-based but table-based, with a predefined filter | ||
* Upcoming Work | * Upcoming Work | ||
+ | ** Endgame Plan | ||
+ | *** Automatic nightly I-builds until the release | ||
+ | *** Martin to update the mapfiles for now, will review checkins and release | ||
+ | *** Continue fixing bugs: P1,P2 first - then choose the P3 ones you like best, or are easy / riskless to fix | ||
+ | *** Everybody feel free to promote P3 bugs they feel important into P2 bugs such that they get visible to others | ||
+ | *** Everybody feel free to make checkins since we'll review anyway | ||
+ | *** Lothar can do bug Verification | ||
+ | *** Everybody: Also file non-reproducable bugs, use Bugzilla for tracking | ||
** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW] | ** '''New bugs''': REVIEW [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=dsdp.tm.rse-inbox%40eclipse.org&cmdtype=doit Assigned to Inbox], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=NEW&cmdtype=doit Status NEW] | ||
*** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], | *** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], | ||
** Our biggest problems right now | ** Our biggest problems right now | ||
*** Drag&Drop | *** Drag&Drop | ||
− | *** Events/Updates/Refresh | + | **** Upload's OK, download not -- COM translates all dnd into Strings, so it needs to be a local file; we'd need to download on drag already |
+ | **** Navigator should work, Project Explorer tbd | ||
+ | **** Split up the "monster" dnd bugreport into separate ones for the separate issues | ||
+ | **** dnd won't be supported on MacOS; should be addressed fairly quickly after 1.0; seems to be a problem with dragStart | ||
+ | *** Events/Updates/Refresh/Treeview | ||
+ | **** After copy&paste, remote directory is collapsed | ||
+ | **** Might be just a little annoyance, but it leads users to lose confidence! | ||
* Communications | * Communications | ||
+ | ** API changes: we'll not introduce any more api changes for 1.0 | ||
+ | *** Lothar confirms that provisional API is fine for 1.0 | ||
+ | *** Dont want lots of deprecatedes in 2.0 --> it will be fine to have incompatible API changes in 2.0 | ||
+ | ** FTP dnd: copy vs. move | ||
+ | *** API needs to be observed, FTPFileService.copy() should raise an exception | ||
** Extend Uwe's commit rights to RSE? | ** Extend Uwe's commit rights to RSE? | ||
+ | *** Dave's & Kushal OK with extending, will publicly vote | ||
+ | ** Shall we get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif ? | ||
+ | ** Shall we get rid of commented out source code ? | ||
+ | *** too late for 1.0 but want to get rid of both soon after | ||
* Change Requests | * Change Requests | ||
* [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] - First tasks after 1.0 is completed: | * [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] - First tasks after 1.0 is completed: | ||
** Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD) | ** Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD) | ||
− | ** Start creating Unit Tests, Testing feature | + | ** Start creating Unit Tests, Testing feature (DaveD, Uwe) |
− | ** Continue bug fixing on HEAD | + | ** Continue bug fixing on HEAD (All) |
+ | ** Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review all docs | ||
** Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan | ** Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan | ||
* Vacations, Holidays etc. | * Vacations, Holidays etc. | ||
− | ** Martin - public holidays Nov 1 | + | ** Martin - public holidays Nov 1 |
** US Thanksgiving - End of November | ** US Thanksgiving - End of November | ||
+ | ** Kushal - Business trip Nov 9 and 10 | ||
* Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | * Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics | ||
+ | ** [[DSDP/TM/Code_Ownership]] | ||
+ | ** '''Can we move next weeks meeting 1 hour earlier in order to accomodate the Orbit call?''' | ||
** EclipseCon 2007 coming in March. Call for Papers has been issued. Martin and DaveM will submit proposal for 2 hour tutorial. | ** EclipseCon 2007 coming in March. Call for Papers has been issued. Martin and DaveM will submit proposal for 2 hour tutorial. | ||
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== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
− | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 7-Nov-2006]] at | + | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 7-Nov-2006]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2006&month=11&day=7&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=224&p2=159&p3=250&p4=136&p5=223&iv=1800 7am SFO / 9.00am Rochester / 10.00pm Toronto / 3pm London / 4pm Salzburg] |
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006]] at 9am PST | * Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006]] at 9am PST | ||
Latest revision as of 06:56, 2 November 2006
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Tuesday Oct 31, 2006 at 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg |
Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_sharf, and uwe.stieber.
MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber; Michael Scharf (absent), Ted Williams (absent)
- Tradescape - Lothar Werzinger
Agenda
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
- Latest News
- Martin -- RSE 1.0 Testing round 3; bugfixes; releasing RC3; about files still pending!
- DaveD -- bugfixing, verification; some lo-pri filter bugs still pending
- DaveM -- testing & verification
- Kushal -- testing & verification
- Javier -- bug verification, FTP testing
- Ted -- n/a (jury duty)
- Uwe -- Windriver stuff
- Michael --n/a
- Other News --
- Top Priorities this week:
- #1 - Hi-priority bugfixing - please observe the priorities.
- #2 - Being responsive
- Looking back on RSE 1.0 Testing round 3
- committers can set to CLOSED right away instead of setting VERIFIED
- Filter questions by LotharW
- Programmatically use the remote file selection dialog to restrict it to some filter
- DaveM: Changing the root of the remote systems tree in the dialog should be possible
- DaveM: would like a dialog that's not tree-based but table-based, with a predefined filter
- Upcoming Work
- Endgame Plan
- Automatic nightly I-builds until the release
- Martin to update the mapfiles for now, will review checkins and release
- Continue fixing bugs: P1,P2 first - then choose the P3 ones you like best, or are easy / riskless to fix
- Everybody feel free to promote P3 bugs they feel important into P2 bugs such that they get visible to others
- Everybody feel free to make checkins since we'll review anyway
- Lothar can do bug Verification
- Everybody: Also file non-reproducable bugs, use Bugzilla for tracking
- New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
- Open bugs: P1, P2 bugs, API bugs, Open with Patch,
- Our biggest problems right now
- Drag&Drop
- Upload's OK, download not -- COM translates all dnd into Strings, so it needs to be a local file; we'd need to download on drag already
- Navigator should work, Project Explorer tbd
- Split up the "monster" dnd bugreport into separate ones for the separate issues
- dnd won't be supported on MacOS; should be addressed fairly quickly after 1.0; seems to be a problem with dragStart
- Events/Updates/Refresh/Treeview
- After copy&paste, remote directory is collapsed
- Might be just a little annoyance, but it leads users to lose confidence!
- Drag&Drop
- Endgame Plan
- Communications
- API changes: we'll not introduce any more api changes for 1.0
- Lothar confirms that provisional API is fine for 1.0
- Dont want lots of deprecatedes in 2.0 --> it will be fine to have incompatible API changes in 2.0
- FTP dnd: copy vs. move
- API needs to be observed, FTPFileService.copy() should raise an exception
- Extend Uwe's commit rights to RSE?
- Dave's & Kushal OK with extending, will publicly vote
- Shall we get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif ?
- Shall we get rid of commented out source code ?
- too late for 1.0 but want to get rid of both soon after
- API changes: we'll not introduce any more api changes for 1.0
- Change Requests
- RSE 2.0 Planning - First tasks after 1.0 is completed:
- Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
- Start creating Unit Tests, Testing feature (DaveD, Uwe)
- Continue bug fixing on HEAD (All)
- Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review all docs
- Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Martin - public holidays Nov 1
- US Thanksgiving - End of November
- Kushal - Business trip Nov 9 and 10
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
- DSDP/TM/Code_Ownership
- Can we move next weeks meeting 1 hour earlier in order to accomodate the Orbit call?
- EclipseCon 2007 coming in March. Call for Papers has been issued. Martin and DaveM will submit proposal for 2 hour tutorial.
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Edit Code Ownership. Hi-Pri bugs. New bug for moving DTD.
- DaveM - Hi-pri bugs
- Kushal - Hi-pri bugs; Encoding bugs?
- Martin - Create empty project plan; TM FAQ on the Wiki; Hi-pri bugs;
- Javier - FTP bugs; Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
- Ted - Terminalview; Document the build process