DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 26-Jun-2007

Meeting Title:	TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time:	Tuesday Jun 26, 2007 at 1500 UTC
Dial-in:	International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Invited Attendees

• IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Xuan Chen, (Kevin Doyle n/a), (Kushal Munir n/a)
• Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
• Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Notes

• Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Jun-2007

News & Review Action Items

Martin	0%		100%
DaveD	90%	some doc fixes, but things went fairly smoothly	90%
DaveM	0%		30%
Javier	30%		30%
Uwe	5%	-	5%
Michael	10%	1 bugfix for terminal	10%

Plan for the TM Future

• Please review and edit TM Future Planning together with your Requirements / Product Management folk
• A TM Project Meeting is planned for SEPTEMBER 19th and 20th in Chicago, together with the Members Meeting.

Ramp Down Plan

• TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa, based on Europa Simultaneous Release#Milestones and Release Candidates
  • EUROPA -- Jun 29 -- No more automatic builds (only on request) - Wednesday is the absolute final day
  • Testing: Please use RSE recent I-builds yourselves in daily work

Open Work for 2.0

• Reminder: All our API is still declared "provisional". Is this ok for everyone?
• All-committer-review required from now on
• Severity Major Bugs:
  • 193380 Deleting Connection Refresh's Entire Remote Systems View - not major, assigned 2.0.1
  • 193858 RSE folder tree problem - tempfiles do not take connection name or user id on remote side into account; similar to tempfiles structure does not support tunnelling - AI DaveM check whether remoteMountPathMappers extension point can be used to change the mapping scheme; for the future, probably subsystems should contribute some means of qualification
  • 187301 (Martin) Telnet does not allow multiple shells
    • Martin wants to apply the (cleaned-up) patch, will affect telnet only
• Other known bugs:
  • 192610 (Javier) Create a link to an RSE folder makes eclipse freeze
    • Will likely require a note of caution on using EFS remote projects.
    • Javier could reproduce (with FTP); blocked as long as files were being retrieved from remote server (could be hundreds of files); refreshed file status of hundreds of files (or did it retrieve the files to do some parsing?) - Martin would like to know why it's running in foreground; DaveD: both JDT and CDT are not particularly good at being EFS clients
      • AI Javier: Check FTP Log: Does it download files or just check timestamp? Does it check the same files again and again or always different ones? Also, try a thread dump and attach it to the bug, so we can see who ran it in the UI thread.
      • Thread Dump Utility:
        • On UNIX, do kill -SIGQUIT in order to get a thread dump on the console
        • On Windows, use AdaptJ Java StackTrace (click on "Launch StackTrace" on the web page; it's free when launched from the Web. Attach to the program. In the stacktrace, you can copy&paste, or save the trace.
  • Several Doc issues opened (broken links) - affect doc plugin only; AI DaveD
• DStore: Change the default daemon port for 2.0, since the protocol is not compatible? - Would allow multiple dstore daemons for multiple different versions run in parallel on one host
  • DaveM: IBM internally uses different daemon ports for different protocol versions right now; different IBM products have different ways of dealing with this, e.g. z/OS has its own daemon; TPF uses rexec; for testing, just pick a port; in the past, administrators just knew what's going on; DaveM slightly in favor of changing the port number but not seen as critical since people typically specifiy their own ports; DaveD thinks it would be a good idea for convenience (increment 4035 to 4036)
    • IANA Port Numbers: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers search for Unassigned, e.g. 4370 Unassigned
    • AI Martin file bug for DaveM
• New & Noteworthy - AI Martin create, others fill in
• Release Notes
  • These will live in the www-tm-development project. Please fill in!

Work post 2.0

• Javadoc Reviews: @since tag for new API, missing @param tags, ... better don't change since these force rebuild of many plugins
• Currently feels like too many bugs are assigned 2.0.1 -- but we'll decide that after 2.0 is released
  • Kushal some of your assigned are 2.0.1 -- will you be able to work on those?
• 2.0.1 work can be done in branches - e.g. "temp201_dwd"? Merge immediately after 2.0 declared. Caution: 2.0.1 must be binary compatible with 2.0.0. Ensure that you have read the Eclipse API Guidelines again to understand what the restrictions are.
  • Platform has branched 3.3.1 already, and releases 3.3 from the branch
• Other work
  • Discouraged Access Warnings: switch off for dstore by using x-friend in Manifest?
    • subsystems.files.dstore --> dstore.extra: DomainNotifier.addDomainListener(), DomainNotifier.removeDomainListener() - DaveM: This is a dstore-specific thing and should not be public API
    • DaveD: Friend may be the right thing in many cases; but we might be hiding some stuff that should be API, so we should treat these case by case
    • Should look at the list of x-friend declarations and check if these still hold
    • Filed bug #194475 to track these
  • Kushal: 174789 Property pages added to Wizard automatically: AI Kushal investigate (will likely be taken by DaveD - Kushal to leave the team?)
  • Martin: 186315 EFS problematic URIs - would love to see those fixed, supposedly affect efs plugin only
    • Releng scripts: won't consume Commons Net officially via Orbit for now
• Bugzilla: Severity Major, hi-priority

Vacation, Away

• DaveM, DaveD taking a couple weeks in August
• Javier ooo last two weeks in August

Action Items

• Last Meeting Action Items
• Everybody: Comment / Grant Review on 194442 default dstore daemon port, 187301 telnet multiple shells
• DaveD: Doc bugs (broken links)
• DaveM: Check whether mountPathMappers can workaround 193858, comment on the bug about reason and possible workarounds; 194442 change dstore daemon default port
• Kushal:
• Martin: 187301 telnet; create new&notewothy, release notes
• Javier: Investigate 192610 as mentioned during the meeting, add comments on the bug
• Michael:

Next Meeting

• DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 3-Jul-2007 at 1500 UTC
• Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Jul-2007 at 9am PST / 1600 UTC