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Difference between revisions of "DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Dec-2006"
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== Attendees == | == Attendees == | ||
| − | * IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir | + | * IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, (Kushal Munir n/a) |
* Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | * Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús | ||
| − | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams | + | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a, Ted Williams n/a) |
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This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | ||
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| − | + | * 1.0: 85 examples -- people do want to code against RSE APIs | |
| + | * 68 discovery -- some interest | ||
| + | * update site gaining significance with 1.0.1 | ||
| + | * For more analysis, see [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006]] | ||
=== Latest News === | === Latest News === | ||
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** [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan, '''Priorities:''' | ** [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan, '''Priorities:''' | ||
*** '''1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation''' | *** '''1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation''' | ||
| − | **** SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands; read-only flags; Streams for IHostShell, IFileService; | + | **** SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands; read-only flags; Streams for IHostShell, IFileService; UI/Non-UI Refactoring; make RSE more service-oriented |
*** '''2. Make EFS work''' | *** '''2. Make EFS work''' | ||
*** '''3. Play well with the Platform''' | *** '''3. Play well with the Platform''' | ||
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** Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal". | ** Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal". | ||
** For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch) | ** For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch) | ||
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* Vacations, Holidays etc. | * Vacations, Holidays etc. | ||
** Kushal away from 18th | ** Kushal away from 18th | ||
| + | ** DaveD away 22nd and most of Thu 21st but may work a little 25th to 1st | ||
** Martin, DaveM away from 25th to 1st | ** Martin, DaveM away from 25th to 1st | ||
** Javier away from 25th to 8th | ** Javier away from 25th to 8th | ||
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 12-Dec-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 12-Dec-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
| − | * '''DaveD''' - | + | * '''DaveD''' - Bugs & Unit tests; ; New bug for moving DTD. |
| − | * '''DaveM''' - Bugs; Compiler Warnings (dstore); | + | * '''DaveM''' - Bugs & Unit tests; Compiler Warnings (dstore); |
| − | * '''Kushal''' - Compiler Warnings (UI); Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs | + | * '''Kushal''' - Compiler Warnings (UI); Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests |
| − | * '''Martin''' - Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]; [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute) | + | * '''Martin''' - Bugs & Unit Tests; Features for Unittests; Add Jakarta Commons to Orbit; Plan Item Specifications; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on [[RSE 2.0 Planning]]; [[TM and RSE FAQ]], improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute); |
| − | * '''Javier''' - Bugs; | + | * '''Javier''' - Bugs & Unit Tests; |
* '''Ted''' - Document the build process (DD project), prepare for Europa build | * '''Ted''' - Document the build process (DD project), prepare for Europa build | ||
* '''Michael''' - | * '''Michael''' - | ||
Revision as of 13:45, 19 December 2006
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Tuesday Dec 19, 2006 at 1600 UTC |
| Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, (Kushal Munir n/a)
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a, Ted Williams n/a)
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Notes
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
Recent Download Statistics
| Component | RC3 | RC4 | 1.0 | 1.0.1 | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Date | 30-Oct | 03-Nov | 12-Nov | 15-Dec | |
| RSE-SDK | 113 | 146 | 458 | 40 | |
| rseserver-windows | 24 | 63 | 185 | 7 | |
| rseserver-linux | 19 | 25 | 133 | 11 | |
| rse.core (Update Site) | 72 | 28 | 172 | 52 | 1.0 src is 156 |
| Total | 185 | 174 | 630 | 92 | |
| examples | 27 | 85 | 7 | ||
| remotecdt | 7 | 66 | 7 | per 1.0.1, remotecdt is no longer in SDK | |
| discovery | 13 | 68 | 9 | ||
| efs | 12 | 42 | 8 | ||
| terminal | - | - | 12 |
- 1.0: 85 examples -- people do want to code against RSE APIs
- 68 discovery -- some interest
- update site gaining significance with 1.0.1
- For more analysis, see DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006
Latest News
| Martin | 80% | Packaging Terminal, Releasing 1.0.1, Fixing, Planning 2.0 | 50% |
| DaveD | 80% | 80% | |
| DaveM | 80% | 80% | |
| Kushal | 50% | 0% | |
| Javier | 50% | compiler warnings | 50% |
| Ted | 5% | creating org.eclipse.rse.releng.builder | 80% |
| Uwe | 50% | test framework, unit tests | 50% |
| Michael | 40% | terminal fixes |
Looking back on 1.0.1
- RSE 1.0.1 Testing statistics (links on bottom of page):
- 63 bugs fixed, 40 verified, 7 reopened, 6 new:
- 16 not yet verified; more than 11% reopened!
- We need to improve the quality of our bug fixes, and decrease the time for verification: using unit tests
- bugs assigned to target 1.0.1 but left open are now assigned to 2.0M4 (currently 46 bugs) - see the bug process page
- 63 bugs fixed, 40 verified, 7 reopened, 6 new:
Upcoming Work
- Top priority this week is a stable 2.0M4 --> Finish off some cleanup, add unit tests
- When to fork off 2.0 API changes?
- Can start right away (e.g. "anonymous" ftp access), but quality must be high:
- add unit tests for all new or modified API
- document API changes (on build notes, tm-dev list or where?)
- Planning 2.0
- Dates are governed by Europa: M4=Jan 4, M5=Feb 23==EclipseCon, M6=Apr 6==API Freeze, M7=May 18==RC0
- Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
- Also need a CQ for two Userdoc files for the Internal Comms Daemon
- RSE 2.0 Planning - Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan, Priorities:
- 1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
- SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands; read-only flags; Streams for IHostShell, IFileService; UI/Non-UI Refactoring; make RSE more service-oriented
- 2. Make EFS work
- 3. Play well with the Platform
- 4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; ...)
- 1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
- Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal".
- For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch)
Communications
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Kushal away from 18th
- DaveD away 22nd and most of Thu 21st but may work a little 25th to 1st
- Martin, DaveM away from 25th to 1st
- Javier away from 25th to 8th
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Bugs & Unit tests; ; New bug for moving DTD.
- DaveM - Bugs & Unit tests; Compiler Warnings (dstore);
- Kushal - Compiler Warnings (UI); Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
- Martin - Bugs & Unit Tests; Features for Unittests; Add Jakarta Commons to Orbit; Plan Item Specifications; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on RSE 2.0 Planning; TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
- Javier - Bugs & Unit Tests;
- Ted - Document the build process (DD project), prepare for Europa build
- Michael -
- Uwe - RSE Systemview performance unit tests
Next Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 2-Jan-2007 at 1600 UTC
- Open DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 10-Jan-2007 at 9am PST