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** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site | ** Get our '''Processes''' in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site | ||
* Latest News | * Latest News | ||
| − | ** Martin -- | + | ** Martin -- Added Mutex; I-builds fixed; Discussions with Buckminster; Simple renamings |
| − | ** DaveD -- | + | *** Who'll need Mutex? FTP yes, Dstore no (should be thread-safe) |
| − | ** DaveM -- | + | *** Going to move Mutex to clientserver |
| − | ** Kushal -- | + | ** DaveD -- Signon without password; working on SystemException stuff now |
| + | ** DaveM -- Some hi-pri bugs fixed | ||
| + | *** Daemon port range: will have separate args for daemon port and server port range. User-specified port outside the range should return an error | ||
| + | *** Deadline for other project this week, so no more time this week | ||
| + | ** Kushal -- Refactorings checked in; will need Persistence stuff go to core (model stuff - especially ConnectorService) | ||
| + | *** Will need IConnectorService to take ICredentialProvider instead of Shell | ||
| + | *** Still couple of weeks of work in the Workspace, which cannot be checked in now | ||
** Javier -- vacation | ** Javier -- vacation | ||
** Other News -- | ** Other News -- | ||
| − | * | + | * Upcoming Work |
| − | ** | + | ** '''What can we achieve till the 1.0 release?''' |
| − | *** | + | *** 111 bugs open, not counting enhancements (See "Reporter vs. Severity" on the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process page]) |
| + | *** 3 P1 bugs, 17 P2 bugs open - most of them since 4 weeks (See "Assignee vs. Priority" on the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php Bug Process page]) | ||
| + | *** Team Support is almost totally broken and mostly untested | ||
| + | *** > 700 Javadoc errors (Preferences > Compiler > Javadoc > Report errors, Missing tags) | ||
| + | **** To be fixed manually! | ||
| + | **** Get rid of implementation comments (reference to interface comments instead) wherever possible | ||
| + | *** Jakarta-commons, WR Terminalview? Junit tests, tutorials | ||
| + | *** 5 weeks = 25 days until RC0; 4 weeks = 20 days after, for "planned & coordinated testing + fixing" | ||
| + | *** bugfix rate to-date is 1 "hard" one or 3 "easy" ones per day | ||
| + | *** What do we expect from M4? -> Growing community by a stable release available through Update Manager | ||
| + | *** What do we expect from 1.0? -> Growing community by something reliable to base on | ||
| + | **** Will need to communicate intended refactorings between 1.0 and 2.0 early --> Keep the [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page up-to-date | ||
| + | **** For Refactorings after 1.0, we'll need migration docs | ||
| + | *** '''Kushal will continue refactoring, others focus on bug work''' | ||
| + | **** Please document on the mailing list what's about to change, we'll vote for the change. | ||
| + | **** Try to make IConnectorService UI-less, probably all model and persistence provider -> will help with unit tests | ||
| + | **** Focus on API clarification, making APIs smaller (internal) -- less API means less migration docs in 1.0 | ||
| + | **** Kushal is expert on: File Encodings, TAR archive reader, Remote Search. Such bugs to remain assigned to Kushal. Other bugs can be grabbed by others and fixed. | ||
| + | ** '''Refactorings''' | ||
| + | *** [cleanup] vs. [refactoring] in commit comments | ||
| + | **** Use [refactoring] for moving and renaming | ||
| + | **** Use [cleanup] for fixes in docs or implementation, that do not change the structure | ||
| + | *** Who's maintaining MikeB's Change Map ([https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150548 bug 150548]) | ||
| + | **** DaveD to check in as CSV as soon as M4 is out | ||
| + | *** Discuss before implement | ||
| + | *** SubSystemConfiguration -> SubSystemFactory? | ||
| + | **** 248 matches for "SystemFactory" (case insensitive, not whole word) - extension points, docs, local variables | ||
| + | **** 963 matches for "factory" (case sensitive, whole word) - 374 of these in comments, with "subsystem" on the same line | ||
| + | **** 141 matches for "factories" (case sensitive, whole word) - 61 of these in comments | ||
| + | **** Java search: 50 declarations of "*SubSystemConfiguration*" types | ||
| + | **** 330 matches for "subsystem configuration" in comments | ||
| + | **** Ultimate goals: | ||
| + | ***** separate the factory from the configuration, such that ISVs that re-use an existing factory can only implement the configuration but not the factory | ||
| + | ***** ISVs which do their own factory will have to implement both factory and the config | ||
| + | ***** allow headless launch, connect and use of services through a UI-less extension point for (factory? configuration?) | ||
| + | **** '''Want to split up subsystem : service more cleanly''' by having separate Factory and Configuration: separation will allow for more safety, as every creation of the FileServiceSubsystem will happen in one single place only. | ||
| + | ***** Might probably need a ServiceFactory, ConnectorServiceFactory, ??? -- Probably not necessary since everything is connected to the Configuration. | ||
| + | *** Shell Pattern Parsers: moved to org.eclipse.services/src/org.eclipse.services.shells | ||
| + | *** Mutex: move to org.eclipse.services/src, or org.eclipse.services/clientserver? | ||
** API Things | ** API Things | ||
| − | *** Parallel Services - | + | *** '''Service Error Reporting''' - [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=149472 bug 149472] - DaveD |
| − | *** | + | *** '''Parallel Services''' - Martins Mutex to be applied to FTP; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142478 bug 142478] all queries in background - DaveM |
| − | *** Making stuff '''internal''' | + | *** '''SystemRegistry.createHost''' for Javier |
| + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150168 bug 150168] dont commit immediately - DaveD | ||
| + | **** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=150265 bug 150265] allow specifying subsystem types - DaveM | ||
| + | *** Making stuff '''internal''' - ssh, ftp: Martin | ||
*** Obsolete API that's in the Platform now (ActionSets, rseConfigDefaults) --> See [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page | *** Obsolete API that's in the Platform now (ActionSets, rseConfigDefaults) --> See [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page | ||
| + | ** '''Bug Work - please observe priorities''' | ||
| + | *** Open bugs: [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&cmdtype=doit P1, P2 bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bapi&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit API bugs], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=DSDP&product=Target+Management&component=RSE&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1 Open with Patch], | ||
| + | *** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=153253 bug 153253] - Persistence of local filters - to be addressed by DaveD for M4 | ||
** Legal: JUnit (Some IBM signoffs needed, but not too hard); Jakarta-commons (TBD aug.24 latest); WR Terminalview | ** Legal: JUnit (Some IBM signoffs needed, but not too hard); Jakarta-commons (TBD aug.24 latest); WR Terminalview | ||
* Other items | * Other items | ||
** Keeping Tutorial up-to-date vs. review at the end of the release process | ** Keeping Tutorial up-to-date vs. review at the end of the release process | ||
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** Manual test plans - in work by '''Martin''' | ** Manual test plans - in work by '''Martin''' | ||
** EFS feature, Examples feature to be created by Martin | ** EFS feature, Examples feature to be created by Martin | ||
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Aug-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Aug-2006#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
| − | * '''DaveD''' - JUnit legal | + | * '''DaveD''' - JUnit legal, Service Error Reporting API, Persistence bug 153253, Checkin mappings.csv, SystemRegistry API. Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal. |
| − | * '''DaveM''' - bug fixing | + | * '''DaveM''' - bug fixing by priority; look at Kushal's bugs and assign yourself; get rid of Service calls on UI thread; hygiene changes |
| − | * '''Kushal''' - | + | * '''Kushal''' - bug fixing, refactoring IConnectorService with help from DaveD; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults |
| − | * '''Martin''' - | + | * '''Martin''' - EFS & Examples features, build scripts, Manual test plan, API Review, Jakarta-commons, WR-terminalview; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal |
* '''Javier''' - vacation; hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed | * '''Javier''' - vacation; hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed | ||
* '''Everyone''' - List obsolete API on [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page; Mark hygiene changes as [cleanup] in commit comment | * '''Everyone''' - List obsolete API on [[RSE 2.0 Planning]] page; Mark hygiene changes as [cleanup] in commit comment | ||
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== Next Meeting == | == Next Meeting == | ||
* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Aug-2006]] at 9.30am Toronto | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Aug-2006]] at 9.30am Toronto | ||
| + | ** Continue using the Skype/Fixed-line bridge, fallback to plain Skype during the call if possible | ||
* Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Sep-2006]] at 9am PST | * Open [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Sep-2006]] at 9am PST | ||
Latest revision as of 11:09, 16 August 2006
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
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Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
- (Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús - vacation)
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber
Agenda
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
- Latest News
- Martin -- Added Mutex; I-builds fixed; Discussions with Buckminster; Simple renamings
- Who'll need Mutex? FTP yes, Dstore no (should be thread-safe)
- Going to move Mutex to clientserver
- DaveD -- Signon without password; working on SystemException stuff now
- DaveM -- Some hi-pri bugs fixed
- Daemon port range: will have separate args for daemon port and server port range. User-specified port outside the range should return an error
- Deadline for other project this week, so no more time this week
- Kushal -- Refactorings checked in; will need Persistence stuff go to core (model stuff - especially ConnectorService)
- Will need IConnectorService to take ICredentialProvider instead of Shell
- Still couple of weeks of work in the Workspace, which cannot be checked in now
- Javier -- vacation
- Other News --
- Martin -- Added Mutex; I-builds fixed; Discussions with Buckminster; Simple renamings
- Upcoming Work
- What can we achieve till the 1.0 release?
- 111 bugs open, not counting enhancements (See "Reporter vs. Severity" on the Bug Process page)
- 3 P1 bugs, 17 P2 bugs open - most of them since 4 weeks (See "Assignee vs. Priority" on the Bug Process page)
- Team Support is almost totally broken and mostly untested
- > 700 Javadoc errors (Preferences > Compiler > Javadoc > Report errors, Missing tags)
- To be fixed manually!
- Get rid of implementation comments (reference to interface comments instead) wherever possible
- Jakarta-commons, WR Terminalview? Junit tests, tutorials
- 5 weeks = 25 days until RC0; 4 weeks = 20 days after, for "planned & coordinated testing + fixing"
- bugfix rate to-date is 1 "hard" one or 3 "easy" ones per day
- What do we expect from M4? -> Growing community by a stable release available through Update Manager
- What do we expect from 1.0? -> Growing community by something reliable to base on
- Will need to communicate intended refactorings between 1.0 and 2.0 early --> Keep the RSE 2.0 Planning page up-to-date
- For Refactorings after 1.0, we'll need migration docs
- Kushal will continue refactoring, others focus on bug work
- Please document on the mailing list what's about to change, we'll vote for the change.
- Try to make IConnectorService UI-less, probably all model and persistence provider -> will help with unit tests
- Focus on API clarification, making APIs smaller (internal) -- less API means less migration docs in 1.0
- Kushal is expert on: File Encodings, TAR archive reader, Remote Search. Such bugs to remain assigned to Kushal. Other bugs can be grabbed by others and fixed.
- Refactorings
- [cleanup] vs. [refactoring] in commit comments
- Use [refactoring] for moving and renaming
- Use [cleanup] for fixes in docs or implementation, that do not change the structure
- Who's maintaining MikeB's Change Map (bug 150548)
- DaveD to check in as CSV as soon as M4 is out
- Discuss before implement
- SubSystemConfiguration -> SubSystemFactory?
- 248 matches for "SystemFactory" (case insensitive, not whole word) - extension points, docs, local variables
- 963 matches for "factory" (case sensitive, whole word) - 374 of these in comments, with "subsystem" on the same line
- 141 matches for "factories" (case sensitive, whole word) - 61 of these in comments
- Java search: 50 declarations of "*SubSystemConfiguration*" types
- 330 matches for "subsystem configuration" in comments
- Ultimate goals:
- separate the factory from the configuration, such that ISVs that re-use an existing factory can only implement the configuration but not the factory
- ISVs which do their own factory will have to implement both factory and the config
- allow headless launch, connect and use of services through a UI-less extension point for (factory? configuration?)
- Want to split up subsystem : service more cleanly by having separate Factory and Configuration: separation will allow for more safety, as every creation of the FileServiceSubsystem will happen in one single place only.
- Might probably need a ServiceFactory, ConnectorServiceFactory, ??? -- Probably not necessary since everything is connected to the Configuration.
- Shell Pattern Parsers: moved to org.eclipse.services/src/org.eclipse.services.shells
- Mutex: move to org.eclipse.services/src, or org.eclipse.services/clientserver?
- [cleanup] vs. [refactoring] in commit comments
- API Things
- Service Error Reporting - bug 149472 - DaveD
- Parallel Services - Martins Mutex to be applied to FTP; bug 142478 all queries in background - DaveM
- SystemRegistry.createHost for Javier
- bug 150168 dont commit immediately - DaveD
- bug 150265 allow specifying subsystem types - DaveM
- Making stuff internal - ssh, ftp: Martin
- Obsolete API that's in the Platform now (ActionSets, rseConfigDefaults) --> See RSE 2.0 Planning page
- Bug Work - please observe priorities
- Open bugs: P1, P2 bugs, API bugs, Open with Patch,
- bug 153253 - Persistence of local filters - to be addressed by DaveD for M4
- Legal: JUnit (Some IBM signoffs needed, but not too hard); Jakarta-commons (TBD aug.24 latest); WR Terminalview
- What can we achieve till the 1.0 release?
- Other items
- Keeping Tutorial up-to-date vs. review at the end of the release process
- Manual test plans - in work by Martin
- EFS feature, Examples feature to be created by Martin
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - JUnit legal, Service Error Reporting API, Persistence bug 153253, Checkin mappings.csv, SystemRegistry API. Check collapsing persistence Properties nodes to fewer files. Compile a list of suggestions for making classes / packages internal.
- DaveM - bug fixing by priority; look at Kushal's bugs and assign yourself; get rid of Service calls on UI thread; hygiene changes
- Kushal - bug fixing, refactoring IConnectorService with help from DaveD; send file encoding test resources to martin; review & get rid of rseConfigDefaults
- Martin - EFS & Examples features, build scripts, Manual test plan, API Review, Jakarta-commons, WR-terminalview; Review if IShellService is sufficient for terminal
- Javier - vacation; hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed
- Everyone - List obsolete API on RSE 2.0 Planning page; Mark hygiene changes as [cleanup] in commit comment
Next Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 23-Aug-2006 at 9.30am Toronto
- Continue using the Skype/Fixed-line bridge, fallback to plain Skype during the call if possible
- Open DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Sep-2006 at 9am PST