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Meeting Title: TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time: Tuesday Feb 13, 2007 at 1700 UTC
Dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588
North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free)
UK National 08712460713
Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.


  • IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
  • Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
  • Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).


  • Our top goals
    • Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
    • Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
    • Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site

Latest News

Martin 50% 50%
DaveD 80% 80%
DaveM 50% 50%
Kushal 100% 100%
Javier 50% 50%
Ted 0% 0%
Uwe 0% 0%
Michael 20% 20%

Upcoming Work

  • Top priority this week is work on the feature "big rocks" in bugzilla, for RSE 2.0 Planning
    • Martin & DaveM work on EclipseCon tutorial
    • add unit tests for all new or modified API
  • New Europa Requirements from Planning Council Meeting 23-Jan-2007
    • Written ramp down policy by Feb. 23rd --> AI Martin: wait for what Platform does and adapt it
    • Avoiding non-API from other projects
      • AI create bugzillas for getting rid of Platform Internal access and hook them up with a plan item; Europa requires that these are in the release notes and there is a plan for addressing these in the next major release
    • Update features and include the words "end-user" and "extender" --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
    • Update Wiki to explan whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
  • For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M5) -- pretty many right now
  • RSE 2.0 Planning
    • 1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
      • Make stuff internal
        • SystemView, SystemFilterReferenceAdapter, Subsystem Impls
      • UI/Non-UI separation (Condition of Satisfaction: be able to do a headless launch; try to reduce number of plugins? - DaveM be able to use service layer without profiles, persistence etc.; DaveM could envision service layer as part of ECF or similar; put subsystem.files together with subsystem.files)
      • Be able to do ssh non-ui only? Would need an API for password / passphrase prompting in RSE core.
      • SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands;
      • timestamp, ro-flags: still TBD for ssh and ftp
      • Streams for IHostShell, IFileService - upload already allows an InputStream; download will need new API; may be a problem for dstore since the agent "pushes" the file; ftp allows canceling the download
      • Asynchronous API/callbacks; How is the client informed about job completion? Event? Callback? Progressmonitor? - Progressmonitor is created by the job typically, so we have no control over the progress [could use a SubProgressMonitor]? Use Java5 Concurrency classes?
      • IHostShell changes for Terminal;
    • 2. Make EFS work
      • Kushal looking at it - problem is the strictness of resource locking / scheduling rules
      • What about putting EFS directly on top of IFileService without using the cache? Might avoid scheduling rules; might require further extensions of IFileService
    • 3. Play well with the Platform
      • get rid of platform "internal" access; this may also mean getting rid of customized extension points for adding actions
      • retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
    • 4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
    • 5. New Features
      • Import/Export & User actions; Terminal-in-rse; Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
  • Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal".
    • Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
    • Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
  • Add Montavista shell processes subsystem
  • Fix N-builds (second workspace, use Ted's scripts)
    • Orbit bundles to be added differently
    • Unittests to run every night
    • Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
    • Copyright Year Changes
  • Compiler Warnings
    • Good progress, please continue. Most warnings are javadoc warnings now. See the Committer Howto for settings
      • 109 -> 113 -> 113 -> 3 connectorservice.dstore
      • 176 -> 265 -> 161 -> 12 rse.core
      • 474 -> 558 -> 558 -> 94 files.ui
      • 637 -> 662 -> 662 -> 23 services (javadoc)
      • 221 -> 250 -> 248 -> 27 subsystems.files.core
      • 1622 -> 346 -> 293 -> 192 rse.ui (mostly javadoc)
  • Quality
    • Docs are a high priority. Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review, and improve all docs


  • General code cleanup -- to do right after M4:
    • Get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif, IBM_logo.gif
    • Get rid of commented out source code
    • Get rid of unused properties (chkpii)
  • Change Requests
  • Vacations, Holidays etc.
    • DaveD going to Florida in February for a week
  • Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics

Action Items

  • Last Meeting Action Items
  • DaveD - Remove RSE Performance Logging; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution until Jan.31st; Bugs & Unit tests;
  • DaveM - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests; finish permission API; download Streams API;
  • Kushal - Encodings; EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Martin - EclipseCon tutorial; Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Migrate to single-file-jar; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
  • Javier - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ftp; FTP passive mode; Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
  • Ted -
  • Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
  • Uwe -

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