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** Demos / feedback session on prototyping – IBM, Wind River, QNX/CDT, others? | ** Demos / feedback session on prototyping – IBM, Wind River, QNX/CDT, others? | ||
*** Pawel Piech - Wind River | *** Pawel Piech - Wind River | ||
+ | **** Implemented directly against platform | ||
**** (presentation) | **** (presentation) | ||
+ | **** The current state of the flexible hierachy aligns well with WR's debugger implementation. | ||
+ | **** Main issues at this point: | ||
+ | ***** Need retargetable actions | ||
+ | ***** Need public interface to get at standard images for label providers | ||
+ | ***** Column support in views is incomplete at this point | ||
+ | *** Alan Boxall | ||
+ | **** Implemented directly against platform | ||
+ | **** Moving from 3.0 to 3.1 - the biggest challenge was to get the multi-threaded UI to talk to their synchronous debug engine. | ||
+ | ***** They queue up all asynchronous requests. They use a lot of caching. | ||
+ | **** They are using the compatibility mode right now. | ||
+ | **** Taking advantage of 3.2 EDM in the future: eventually, IBM's debug engines will drive the hieararchy. | ||
+ | **** Number of jobs is somewhat alarming. (See performance discussions below.) | ||
+ | **** Plan to do some prototyping against flexible hierarchy after 3.2 is released. | ||
+ | *** Mikhail Khodjaiants, QNX | ||
+ | **** (presentation) | ||
+ | **** Requests to provide customized versions of variables and registers view. Probably will happen after CDT 3.2. | ||
+ | **** Using compatibility mode right now for flexibile hierarchy (for 3.1). Still need more investigation for how to expose customization. | ||
+ | *** ATI | ||
+ | **** Builds against Eclipse platform, but haven't had a chance to look at 3.2 yet. | ||
+ | *** AMI | ||
+ | **** Builds against Eclipse platform. | ||
**** | **** | ||
+ | *** TI, Freescale, Nokia | ||
+ | **** Build against CDT - interested in CDT's plans for 3.2 EDM. | ||
+ | **** TI has done some view customization, too. | ||
+ | *** PalmSource | ||
+ | **** | ||
+ | |||
+ | **** TI: Demo of customizations | ||
+ | |||
** Performance discussion | ** Performance discussion | ||
** Using the editor with multiple debugging backends | ** Using the editor with multiple debugging backends | ||
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*** Discussion of requirements/use cases for flexible hierarchy in CDT. Does it make sense for CDT to expose any of this or stay with a fixed hierarchy? | *** Discussion of requirements/use cases for flexible hierarchy in CDT. Does it make sense for CDT to expose any of this or stay with a fixed hierarchy? | ||
*** Debug console | *** Debug console | ||
+ | ** Committer List | ||
* Miscellaneous | * Miscellaneous | ||
** Eclipse 3.2 launching framework feedback | ** Eclipse 3.2 launching framework feedback |
Revision as of 12:04, 22 February 2006
Agenda & Attendee List
Presentations
Minutes
- Eclipse 3.2 Debug Platform
- Demos / feedback session on prototyping – IBM, Wind River, QNX/CDT, others?
- Pawel Piech - Wind River
- Implemented directly against platform
- (presentation)
- The current state of the flexible hierachy aligns well with WR's debugger implementation.
- Main issues at this point:
- Need retargetable actions
- Need public interface to get at standard images for label providers
- Column support in views is incomplete at this point
- Alan Boxall
- Implemented directly against platform
- Moving from 3.0 to 3.1 - the biggest challenge was to get the multi-threaded UI to talk to their synchronous debug engine.
- They queue up all asynchronous requests. They use a lot of caching.
- They are using the compatibility mode right now.
- Taking advantage of 3.2 EDM in the future: eventually, IBM's debug engines will drive the hieararchy.
- Number of jobs is somewhat alarming. (See performance discussions below.)
- Plan to do some prototyping against flexible hierarchy after 3.2 is released.
- Mikhail Khodjaiants, QNX
- (presentation)
- Requests to provide customized versions of variables and registers view. Probably will happen after CDT 3.2.
- Using compatibility mode right now for flexibile hierarchy (for 3.1). Still need more investigation for how to expose customization.
- ATI
- Builds against Eclipse platform, but haven't had a chance to look at 3.2 yet.
- AMI
- Builds against Eclipse platform.
- TI, Freescale, Nokia
- Build against CDT - interested in CDT's plans for 3.2 EDM.
- TI has done some view customization, too.
- PalmSource
- Pawel Piech - Wind River
- Demos / feedback session on prototyping – IBM, Wind River, QNX/CDT, others?
- TI: Demo of customizations
- Performance discussion
- Using the editor with multiple debugging backends
- API versioning - adding new interfaces on top of old ones vs. deprecating. When are interfaces collapsed together
- Changes beyond 3.2
- Progress Update – Darin W (IBM)
- Update Policy
- Progress Update – Samantha (IBM)
- Discussion on how UI should expose the policies
- Contributions and Participation Discussion
- Update/Demo on Memory Rendering and suggestions for API changes – Ted W (Wind River)
- How can we get better participation to help Darin out on the debugger interfaces and views?
- Feedback cycle schedule on platform - when do we start reviewing Eclipse 3.2+
- Where do we want to go next? Volunteers for implementation?
- New breakpoint features?
- More memory rendering?
- Multi-core
- Sample debugger implementation from Wind River?
- Discussion of requirements/use cases for flexible hierarchy in CDT. Does it make sense for CDT to expose any of this or stay with a fixed hierarchy?
- Debug console
- Committer List
- Miscellaneous
- Eclipse 3.2 launching framework feedback