Architecture Council/Meetings/November 13 2014

Meeting Title:	Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time:	Thursday November 13, 2014 at 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin attention DST change HTML | iCal
Dial-in:	Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call: North America (toll free) 1-866-569-4992 Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) 49-692-2224-6059 France (local call anywhere in France) 33-17-070-8535 Switzerland, Spain, Sweden, others - see Asterisk/Numbers Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968 SIP clients can call 701@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 51968.

Attendees

All AC Members are invited.

• PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.

BIRT:	Wenfeng Li	Wenbin He
DTP:	Brian Payton	Linda Chan
Eclipse:	Mike Wilson	John Arthorne
Modeling:	Ed Merks	Cédric Brun Eike Stepper
Mylyn:	Steffen Pingel	Mik Kersten
RT:	Christian Campo	Tom Watson Doug Clarke Ian Bull
SOA:	Adrian Mos	Marc Dutoo
Technology:	Gunnar Wagenknecht	Wayne Beaton
Tools:	Doug Schaefer
WTP:	Chuck Bridgham	Neil Hauge

All Attendees

• In attendance: Wayne Beaton, Jonas Helming, Maximilian Koegel, Martin O, Steffen Pingel, Doug Schaefer, Michael Scharf, Krum Tsvetkov,
• Regrets: Marcel Bruch, Neil Hauge

Agenda / Notes

• Feel free to edit, but not during the call!

Review of Last Meeting

• Architecture Council/Meetings/October 9 2014
• Still open items moved to #Action_Items

New Topics

• Doug: TM Project
  • Martin: No committers feel responsible for planning - is it time to archive the project ?
  • Wayne: But patches are still being accepted ? - Project might just be mature, that is a reasonable state
  • Doug: Portal doesn't show active committers ? AI Wayne looks like Dash is broken, will investigate.
  • Doug: So how does it go into the release train then ? - Maybe just sticked there from last year ?
    • Wayne: There must be explicit "opt-in" from each project once a year; will sort out with David Williams
    • Martin: But there are still some dependent projects:
      • Linuxtools being taken care of now by WR contribution
      • Doug will take care of remote through his LaunchBar work
      • Does PTP need RSE ? PHP/PDT ? Anyone else ?
  • Bottomline: Archiving is probably premature, "maintenance mode" is acceptable for mature projects as long as patches are still being accepted.
  • But for the Packages, need to get rid of the duplicate Terminal Views

• New Member Votes - Action from Past Meeting
  • AI Wayne nominate one, AI Martin finalize the other

• Wayne: Feature Names and Descriptions
  • E-Mail drafted will send to cross-project-issues-dev
  • "Install New Software" dialog is intended for end users - feature descriptions do matter, need to hint about what a feature provides
    • (silent agreement of all AC attendees)
    • currently, some of the features are meant for adopters / product builders ...
  • Doug: Generally agrees ... there's some C/C++ related features that do not come from the CDT ?!?
  • For CDT and EGit, the project name is like a code name ... though it's nowhere seen in the UI;
  • project name in feature descriptions often doesn't make sense (there's exceptions like EMF which is like a brand)
• MPC is what the "install new software" should be ... but need to make keeping that up-to-date easier
  • Michael: With IntelliJ, install/update is just so much easier ... it's a major difficulty for many users of Eclipse

• Wayne: Eclipse Mars will be in the Fedora Software Repository on the day it's released
  • "must not look goofy" initiative...

• Eike: Committers-package follow-up ? - AI Martin follow up with Eike

• Wayne: eclipse-vision mailing list
  • Had a meeting at EclipseCon Europe, owe an Article for the Eclipse Newsgroup ... AI Wayne post a preview of that to the AC

General Topics

• New AC Member candidates
• Eclipse Infrastructure - git, Gerrit, Maven, Hudson, Bugzilla, ...
• Updates from the Board or the EMO

Action Items

• No new action items.
• Cleaned up old action items, see Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011 for old stuff
• (old) Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
• (old) Martin revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
• (old) Martin bug 315210 Make the AC mailing list open / moderated

Next Meeting

• Architecture Council/Meetings/December 11 2014