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| Thursday [[November 10, 2011]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2011&month=11&day=10&hour=16&min=00&sec=0 1600 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin] <font color="red">'''attention DST change'''</font><br>[[Image:Html.gif]][http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=g30r6idsq3rsufe2j3t6k0l0g4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Canada/Toronto HTML] | [[Image:Ical.gif]][http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/g30r6idsq3rsufe2j3t6k0l0g4%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics iCal]
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== Attendees ==
All [[Architecture Council/Members and Mentors|AC Members]] are invited.
* '''PMC Reps''' please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.

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| '''BIRT:'''
| <strike>Wenfeng Li</strike>
| <strike>Wenbin He</strike>
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| '''DTP:'''
| Brian Payton
| <strike>Linda Chan</strike>
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| '''Eclipse:'''
| <strike>Mike Wilson</strike>
| <strike>John Arthorne</strike><br/><strike>Boris Bokowski</strike>
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| '''Modeling:'''
| <strike>Ed Merks</strike>
| <strike>Cédric Brun</strike><br/><strike>Sven Efftinge</strike>
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| '''Mylyn:'''
| Steffen Pingel
| <strike>Mik Kersten</strike>
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| '''RT:'''
| <strike>Jeff McAffer</strike>
| <strike>Tom Watson</strike>
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| '''SOA:'''
| Adrian Mos
| <strike>Sebastien Gandon</strike>
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| '''Technology:'''
| <strike>Gunnar Wagenknecht</strike>
| <strike>Wayne Beaton</strike>
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| '''Tools:'''
| <strike>Doug Schaefer</strike>
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| '''TPTP:'''
| ''(TBA)''
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| '''WTP:'''
| Chuck Bridgham
| <strike>Dave Carver</strike><br/><strike>Neil Hauge</strike>
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* '''Signed-up:''' Chuck Bridgham, Christian Campo, Kim Moir, Adrian Mos, Martin O, Brian Payton, Steffen Pingel, Pascal Rapicault, David Williams
* '''Regrets:''' Oliver Cole (standing conflict), Sebastien Gandon, Wenfeng Li (standing conflict), Achim Lörke (doctor's apt.), Andrew Overholt (vacation), Doug Schaefer (ECon PC)
* '''No-Show:''' Chris Aniszczyk, John Arthorne, Wayne Beaton, Boris Bokowski, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, Dave Carver, Linda Chan, Doug Clarke, Neil Hauge, Oisin Hurley, Kenn Hussey, Mik Kersten, Markus Knauer, Bernd Kolb, Jeff McAffer, Ed Merks, Mike Milinkovich, Mary Ruddy, Michael Scharf, Tom Schindl, Darin Swanson, Gunnar Wagenknecht, Tom Watson, Mike Wilson, Oliver Wolf, Gary Xue

== Agenda / Notes ==
* '''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the call!</font>'''

=== Review of Last Meeting  ===

*[[Architecture Council/Meetings/October 13 2011]]
*Still open items moved to [[#Action_Items]]

=== More Frequent Releases ? ===

Pascal: '''Should the AC recommend more frequent releases? '''

* Martin: It's a matter between each project and their community
* Pascal: But most consumers only see the Train - need '''stable line-ups as reference''' more often

the project
* {{bug|345503}} is open for discussing patch/update policy for EPP Packages (line-ups)

=== New Topics ===


=== General Topics ===

* Updates from the Board
* git @ Eclipse progress
* Maven @ Eclipse progress
* AC Backlog

=== Old Topics ===
* Henrik Lindberg ESE proceedings are now online [[WhatIsInABuildESE2010]]
** '''AI zx''' Create Indigo report

* {{bug|324125}} architecture diagrams - [http://www.eclipse.org/org/councils/roadmap_v2_0/AC_v2_0/index.php 2006 version] - relationship to e4 ?
* '''IP Logs''' - Martin and Wayne - [http://eclipse.org/woolsey/ project woolsey] exists and open for community, Wayne hopes get soemthing downloadable by Christmas
** Allow projects to file bugs which list collections of libraries that are used for testing (and mark these collectively as exemt prereqs)
*** Couldn't distribute those libs or put them in scm, but could have them on the build server

We need to reduce our bug backlog, by actually coming to a common resolution on some. Here are the most recent ones:

* DaveC would like to discuss New Committer Guidelines; Scrum / Agile techniques
* {{bug|288393}} - Denis - Bugzilla Best Practices

* '''[[Architecture Council/Open Issues|AC Bugzilla]]''' backlog
* See also [[Architecture Council/Open Issues]] for overflow items that were not discussed
* News from the EMO and Councils ?

== Action Items ==
* Cleaned up old action items, see [[Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011]] for old stuff
* (''old'') '''Martin''' to add Eclipsecon meeting notes onto the wiki
* (''old'') '''Tim''' write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
* '''Martin''' revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
* '''Martin''' {{bug|315210}} Make the AC mailing list open / moderated

== Next Meeting ==
* [[Architecture Council/Meetings/December 8 2011]]

[[Category:Architecture Council Meeting Minutes]]