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| Meeting Title:
| '''Architecture Council Monthly Meeting'''
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| Date & Time: 
| Thursday [[May 13, 2010]] at [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2010&month=5&day=13&hour=15&min=00&sec=0 1500 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin] <font color="red">'''attention DST change'''</font><br>[[Image:Html.gif]][http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=g30r6idsq3rsufe2j3t6k0l0g4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Canada/Toronto HTML] | [[Image:Ical.gif]][http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/g30r6idsq3rsufe2j3t6k0l0g4%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics iCal]
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== Attendees ==
All [[Architecture Council/Members and Mentors|AC Members]] are invited.
* '''PMC Reps''' please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.

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| '''BIRT:'''
| <strike>Wenfeng Li</strike>
| Gary Xue
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| '''DTP:'''
| Brian Payton
| Linda Chan
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| '''DSDP:'''
| Martin Oberhuber
| TBD (DSDP-PMC)
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| '''Eclipse:'''
| Mike Wilson
| John Arthorne<br/>Boris Bokowski
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| '''Modeling:'''
| Ed Merks
| Cédric Brun<br/>Sven Efftinge
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| '''RT:'''
| Jeff McAffer
| Tom Watson
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| '''STP:'''
| Antoine Toulme
| Oisin Hurley
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| '''Technology:'''
| Gunnar Wagenknecht
| Wayne Beaton
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| '''Tools:'''
| Doug Schaefer
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| '''TPTP:'''
| Eugene Chan
| Joanna Kubasta (unofficial)
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| '''WTP:'''
| Tim deBoer
| Dave Carver<br/>Neil Hauge
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* '''Regrets:''' Oliver Cole (standing conflict), Wenfeng Li (standing conflict), Markus Knauer (vacation), Mik Kersten (vacation), Nick Boldt (conflict)

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* '''Signed-up:''' Chris Aniszczyk, John Arthorne, Wayne Beaton, Boris Bokowski, Cédric Brun, Dave Carver, Eugene Chan, Linda Chan, Tim deBoer, Neil Hauge, Kenn Hussey, Mik Kersten, Kim Moir, Andrew Overholt, Martin O, Doug Schaefer, Tom Schindl, Mike Wilson, Darin Wright, Gary Xue
* '''Regrets:''' Oliver Cole (standing conflict), Wenfeng Li (standing conflict), Darin Swanson (China time zone), Markus Knauer (travelling)
* '''No-Show:''' Doug Clarke, Oisin Hurley, Bernd Kolb, Jeff McAffer, Ed Merks, Mike Milinkovich, Brian Payton, Mary Ruddy, Michael Scharf, Antoine Toulme, Gunnar Wagenknecht, Tom Watson, Dave Williams, Oliver Wolf
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== Agenda / Notes ==
* '''Feel free to edit, but <font color="red">not during the call!</font>'''

=== Review of Last Meeting ===
* [[Architecture Council/Meetings/April 8 2010]]
* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] (''old'') '''Wayne''' to discuss "e4 ready" marketing campaign with Ian.
* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Ed''' to tell Cloudsmith about {{bug|283745}} Maven -> Idea is an aggregator to republish p2 as Maven
** Dave W does not see this happening for Helios .. work in progress, people know what needs to be done
* (''old'') '''Martin''' to file bug for asking Mik hyperlink Wikitext / crowdsourcing Docs handbook on the [[Architecture Council/Top Ten Project Development Practices]] page
* (''old'') '''Tom S''' Athena Common Builder Cookbook
* '''Tim''' write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
* '''Martin''' revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
* [[Image:Ok_green.gif]] '''Antoine''' file bug for discussing new Languages TLP -- {{bug|308732}}
* Still open items moved to [[#Action Items]]

=== New Topics ===

* Martin: Welcome Kenn and Kim

* Tom S '''Common Builder Cookbook''' - See Dave Carver's [[Athena Common Build]] for now
: ''Did you mean [[:Category:Athena_Common_Build_Users]]? --[[User:Nickboldt.gmail.com|Nickboldt.gmail.com]] 04:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)''
* Chris A: {{bug|305544}} '''Shortening the new committer process''' status update?
* Antoine T {{bug|308732}} '''new TLP for languages''' - how to proceed?
* Antoine T "specs and design for Eclipse projects": how do we spec out p2 ?
* Antoine T "Maven2 repository" : mind if we put some junk on build.eclipse.org ?
* Jeff: {{bug|312790}} IP team request for fine-grained CQ management

'''Overflow items not yet discussed'''

* Antoine T.: discuss Technology project lifecycle http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-architecture-council/msg01272.html
* Antoine T.: discuss PMC organization and approval lags http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-architecture-council/msg01272.html
* Martin: AC Calendar / Scheduling
* Martin: Follow-up action items from Eclipsecon Breakfast

==== e4 - current state of affairs ====

=== Items for next meeting ===

Regular briefing on the status of e4.

=== Old Topics ===

We need to reduce our bug backlog, by actually coming to a common resolution on some. Here are the most recent ones:

* DaveC would like to discuss New Committer Guidelines; Scrum / Agile techniques
* {{bug|285074}} - Dave Carver - Hudsonbuilder and write access to the cvs / svn repo
* {{bug|283745}} - Maven Repository at Eclipse
* {{bug|288393}} - Denis - Bugzilla Best Practices
* The art of project release naming - no bug yet ?!?

* '''[[Architecture Council/Open Issues|AC Bugzilla]]''' backlog
* See also [[Architecture Council/Open Issues]] for overflow items that were not discussed
* News from the EMO and Councils ?

== Action Items ==
* (''old'') '''Martin''' to follow up on Architecture Diagrams idea
* (''old'') '''Michael''' to flesh out the Patterns idea and remind the EAC -- started [[Architecture Council/Top Ten Recommendations#Design Patterns]], backed by EclipseCon tutorial proposals
** While these show how well-known GoF patterns are applied in Eclipse, Michael's idea was more to find and describe new patterns which are specific to Eclipse
* (''old'') '''Michael''' to draft an E-Mail about the "plugin granularity" idea, searching for people to lead the effort
* (''old'') '''Tools and Tech PMC's''' to encourage incubating grandfathered projects find a mentor; mentorless projects due to AC members quitting or falling dormant
* (''old'') '''Martin''' to add Eclipsecon meeting notes onto the wiki
* (''old'') '''Mik''' to create initial "architectural walkthrough" material for Mylyn -- 1 wiki page not too large, send link to the mailing list 
* (''old'') '''Dave C''' work with Wayne on a "handbook" for project criteria for becoming a committer (referencing committer guidelines)
** Martin - recently updated the [[Eclipse/Workspace/Committer_FAQ#Becoming_a_Committer]] with pretty strict criteria (committed contributions)
* (''old'') '''Dave C''' come up with a document how to save build resources
* (''old'') '''Dave C''' to try bugzilla UNCONFIRMED state
* (''old'') '''Wayne''' to ask Sonatype about Nexus test installation
* (''old'') '''Wayne''' to try doing a 3.6m2 API Report on Helios m2

== Next Meeting ==
* Eclipsecon
* [[Architecture Council/Meetings/June 10 2010]]

[[Category:Architecture Council Meeting Minutes]]