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== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
  
* '''In attendance:'''  
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* '''In attendance (13):''' Carl Anderson, Mikael Barbero, Wayne Beaton, Jonas Helming, Mickael Istria, Maximilian Kögel, Dani Megert, Tracy Miranda, Martin O, Torkild Resheim, Doug Schaefer, Michael Scharf, Gunnar Wagenknecht
* '''Regrets:'''
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* '''Regrets (8):''' Jay Jay Billings, Marcel Bruch, Alex Kurtakov, Martin Lippert, Alexander Nyßen, Matthias Sohn, Eike Stepper, Krum Tsvetkov
* '''In attendance:''' Marcel Bruch, Mickael Istria, Alex Kurtakov, Dani Megert, Martin O, Torkild Resheim, Denis Roy, Doug Schaefer, Michael Scharf, Gunnar Wagenknecht
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* '''Regrets:''' Jay Jay Billing
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* '''No-Show (29):''' Max Andersen, Chris Aniszczyk, John Arthorne, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, Ian Bull, Benjamin Cabé, Christian Campo, Linda Chan, Naci Dai, Sebastien Gerard, Neil Hauge, Jim Hughes, Kenn Hussey, Tyler Jewell, Markus Knauer, Konstantin Kommissarchik, Benoit Langlois, Ed Merks, Mike Milinkovich, Adrian Mos, Steffen Pingel, Pascal Rapicault, Denis Roy, Tom Schindl, Julien Vermillard, Lars Vogel, Tom Watson, Mike Wilson
  
* '''No-Show:''' Carl Anderson, Max Andersen, Chris Aniszczyk, John Arthorne, Mikael Barbero, Wayne Beaton, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, Ian Bull, Benjamin Cabé, Christian Campo, Linda Chan, Naci Dai, Sebastien Gerard, Neil Hauge, Jonas Helming, Jim Hughes, Kenn Hussey, Tyler Jewell, Markus Knauer, Maximilian Kögel, Konstantin Kommissarchik, Benoit Langlois, Martin Lippert, Ed Merks, Mike Milinkovich, Tracy Miranda, Adrian Mos, Alexander Nyßen, Steffen Pingel, Pascal Rapicault, Tom Schindl, Matthias Sohn, Eike Stepper, Krum Tsvetkov, Julien Vermillard, Lars Vogel, Tom Watson, Mike Wilson
 
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[[#PMC_Rep_Attendees]] see also below.
 
[[#PMC_Rep_Attendees]] see also below.
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* Last meeting: [[Architecture Council/Meetings/May 11 2017]] -- open actions see [[#Action_Items]]
 
* Last meeting: [[Architecture Council/Meetings/May 11 2017]] -- open actions see [[#Action_Items]]
  
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=== Conf.Call Quality ===
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* Took Martin 5 attempts to dial in via Skype (the conf system wouldn't ask for the extension to use)
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* Landline failed for Michael Scharf (Skype worked)
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* Took 2 tries for Jem and one other attendee
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* Wayne: Conf.system is on the list to be addressed - stay tuned
  
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=== Dani: Java 9 Update ===
=== General Topics ===
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* Jigsaw: Initial JSR was rejected, new specs were submitted and release was postponed from July to Sep.29
 
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* Planning Council discussed the situation yesterday
* Mickael I.: CI slaves being a bottleneck for Platform https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=508507 , SLES vs CentOS https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=506995
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* A new switch is likely going to be introduced for enabling modules
* Mickael I.: Question: Do we have metrics/indicators about the effect of requiring mailing to post on Bugzilla? Specifically in the trend of 1st time reporters?
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** Because of the new switch, the Equinox Launcher couldn't keep its 4.7M7 hacks to deal with Java9 specific switches
 
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** As per {{bug|517507}}, the Launcher is not going to do any magic any more (like in M7)
* '''New AC Member candidates''' - see [[Architecture Council/Members and Mentors]], and the [http://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/council.php#architecture Councils Page]
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*** Users of Java 9 will have to specify Java 9 options for enabling the proper expected modules
** Tyler Jewell representing strategic member CodeEnvy
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*** A N&N Entry for the Oxygen Release links to a Wiki page that explains what needs to be done for Java 9
** Eclipse Che vs. Platform discussion
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* Wayne: Should Java9 specific switches be added to packages?
* '''Eclipse Infrastructure''' - git, Gerrit, Maven, Hudson, Bugzilla, ...
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** Dani: Switches are not yet known. Also, package maintainers would net to find out which modules are actually needed.
* '''Updates from the Board or the EMO'''
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** Martin: Also, if a package should run on either Java9 or Java8, the Launcher would need to add (or not) such switches - this functionality has been removed from the Launcher
 
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*** {{bug|517452}} discusses a new, more generic way switching between Java9 witches or not
== Action Items  ==
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*No new action items.
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*Cleaned up old action items, see [[Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011]] for old stuff
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*(''old'') '''Tim''' write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
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*(''old'') '''Martin''' revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
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*(''old'') '''Martin''' {{bug|315210}} Make the AC mailing list open / moderated
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=== Wayne: Generalize Legal Docs ===
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* About files (about.html, SUA in features, ...)
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* Ideas moving forward: Root of the repo to contain obvious files named LICENSE , NOTICE with respective contents (copyright owners, cryptography status, ...)
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** Want to adopt the '''SPDX''' framework for tracking license per projects in a machine-readable manner
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** Want to avoid unnecessary changes in existing plugins - the current way doing things becomes an implementation detail in the new framework
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* Intent having a draft doc of the guidelines by end June, then work with the IP Advisory Committee over the summer until Sept
  
 
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Latest revision as of 02:58, 9 June 2017

Meeting Title: Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time: Thursday June 8, 2017 at 1100 Ottawa
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Attendees

  • In attendance (13): Carl Anderson, Mikael Barbero, Wayne Beaton, Jonas Helming, Mickael Istria, Maximilian Kögel, Dani Megert, Tracy Miranda, Martin O, Torkild Resheim, Doug Schaefer, Michael Scharf, Gunnar Wagenknecht
  • Regrets (8): Jay Jay Billings, Marcel Bruch, Alex Kurtakov, Martin Lippert, Alexander Nyßen, Matthias Sohn, Eike Stepper, Krum Tsvetkov
  • No-Show (29): Max Andersen, Chris Aniszczyk, John Arthorne, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, Ian Bull, Benjamin Cabé, Christian Campo, Linda Chan, Naci Dai, Sebastien Gerard, Neil Hauge, Jim Hughes, Kenn Hussey, Tyler Jewell, Markus Knauer, Konstantin Kommissarchik, Benoit Langlois, Ed Merks, Mike Milinkovich, Adrian Mos, Steffen Pingel, Pascal Rapicault, Denis Roy, Tom Schindl, Julien Vermillard, Lars Vogel, Tom Watson, Mike Wilson


#PMC_Rep_Attendees see also below.

Agenda / Notes

Conf.Call Quality

  • Took Martin 5 attempts to dial in via Skype (the conf system wouldn't ask for the extension to use)
  • Landline failed for Michael Scharf (Skype worked)
  • Took 2 tries for Jem and one other attendee
  • Wayne: Conf.system is on the list to be addressed - stay tuned

Dani: Java 9 Update

  • Jigsaw: Initial JSR was rejected, new specs were submitted and release was postponed from July to Sep.29
  • Planning Council discussed the situation yesterday
  • A new switch is likely going to be introduced for enabling modules
    • Because of the new switch, the Equinox Launcher couldn't keep its 4.7M7 hacks to deal with Java9 specific switches
    • As per bug 517507, the Launcher is not going to do any magic any more (like in M7)
      • Users of Java 9 will have to specify Java 9 options for enabling the proper expected modules
      • A N&N Entry for the Oxygen Release links to a Wiki page that explains what needs to be done for Java 9
  • Wayne: Should Java9 specific switches be added to packages?
    • Dani: Switches are not yet known. Also, package maintainers would net to find out which modules are actually needed.
    • Martin: Also, if a package should run on either Java9 or Java8, the Launcher would need to add (or not) such switches - this functionality has been removed from the Launcher
      • bug 517452 discusses a new, more generic way switching between Java9 witches or not

Wayne: Generalize Legal Docs

  • About files (about.html, SUA in features, ...)
  • Ideas moving forward: Root of the repo to contain obvious files named LICENSE , NOTICE with respective contents (copyright owners, cryptography status, ...)
    • Want to adopt the SPDX framework for tracking license per projects in a machine-readable manner
    • Want to avoid unnecessary changes in existing plugins - the current way doing things becomes an implementation detail in the new framework
  • Intent having a draft doc of the guidelines by end June, then work with the IP Advisory Committee over the summer until Sept

PMC Rep Attendees

All AC Members are invited.

  • PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: Gary Xue
DTP: Brian Payton Linda Chan
Eclipse: Dani Megert Mike Wilson
Modeling: Ed Merks Cédric Brun
Eike Stepper
Mylyn: Steffen Pingel Mik Kersten
RT: Christian Campo Tom Watson
SOA: Adrian Mos Marc Dutoo
Technology: Gunnar Wagenknecht Wayne Beaton
Tools: Doug Schaefer Alex Kurtakov
WTP: Carl Anderson Neil Hauge
LocationTech: Jim Hughes
IoT: Julien Vermillard

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