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===All Attendees===
 
===All Attendees===
  
* '''In attendance:'''  
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* '''In attendance:''' Eike, Matthias, Lars, Martin, Dani, Jim Hughes, Krum Tsvetkov, Maximilian Koegel, Julien (IoT PMC), Marcel Bruch, Wayne Beaton, Doug Schaefer
 
* '''Regrets:'''  
 
* '''Regrets:'''  
  
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* Feel free to fill in, but not during the meeting :)
 
* Feel free to fill in, but not during the meeting :)
  
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==== Welcome New Members ====
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* Jim Hughes joining for LocationTech
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** Mathematician working as a Software Developer, interested in Math underpinnings of GMaza (in the Hadoop Ecosystem)
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** Getting that project through the EMO's IP Review, been doing some other work on Locationtech
 +
** Started SFCurve, for distributed indexing; also got a proposal for GeoBench
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* Julien Damien
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** Working for Sierra Wireless - security expert (authentication, encryption, ...)
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** Project lead for lightweight M2M and committer on Wakaama and Californium
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==== Wayne: New Member proposals ====
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* Has some member candidates in mind from Locationtech, who would be valuable additions but not yet very well known outside their communities
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* Concerned about not making the 50% support mark from 53 active members listed on [[Architecture_Council/Members_and_Mentors]]
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** See [[Architecture_Council/Membership#How_Do_I_Become_A_Member_of_the_Architecture_Council]]
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** The active members list hasn't been pruned in a while but would still be at 48 or so meaning a need for 24 support votes
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* '''AI Wayne''' consider offline with members
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==== Trademarks ====
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* Want to get more consistent usage of the term "Eclipse" on homepages, and especially external websites (like Mosquito.org or Github)
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* Want a public transparent discussion
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* Jim: Dealing with the Eclipse.org homepage was problematic so far, external organizations have been easier to deal with
 +
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==== Lars: Mattermost Channel during meetings ====
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* '''AI Wayne and Martin to join mattermost during discussions'''
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==== FEEP Work ====
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* Missing a public list of work being worked on (as per message from Dani) - '''AI Wayne''' check with Paul
 +
** Eclipse PMC was taken by surprise at some work happening - need to ensure there are committer resources for reviewing
 +
** Would need a better channel for communication
 +
** Mickael would be in a better position to discuss
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** Lars: One obvious missing piece is asking projects, if projects actually want the work requested by the AC ?
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** Wayne: FEEP should not be different than any other contribution - follow existing models
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* Many list of items not claimed yet -- any need to change anything on the process ?
 +
** Wayne: AC did exactly what they were asked to
 +
** Suggest a forum with Paul and Mickael, how to better define work that people can reasonably do
 +
* Should the EMO put more focus on sustainable solutions: going the extra mile to do it right
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** Wayne: should not be different than
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** Somebody who takes FEEP funding still has to play by the rules;
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** Doug: Need to manage expectations on what we get out of the program .. as well as what bidders can get
 +
** Martin so it sounds like there are learnings for now:
 +
*** It's aceeptable for a project to reject a FEEP contribution if it doesn't satisfy quality needs
 +
*** Projects should review proposals early and add constraints where necessary - in order to help bidders estimate size of the work
 +
* '''AI Wayne''' suggest meeting time and invite interested parties
 +
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* Julien: as FEEP is primarily for IDE, why is it an AC topic and not a PMC one ?
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** Doug: AC is across all the projects ... don't have the IDE body (yet) but would probably need it
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** Martin: Keep AC as a "wide" body of attendees, fork out to subgroups as needed
 +
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==== Great Fixes for Neon ====
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* Wayne queried the Git commit index to find contributions; will announce first 2 winners soon
 +
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==== EclipseCon F2F =====
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* The Google Hangout worked so-so for Marcel and Martin
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* Wayne: Concept was OK but need to work on the technology
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* '''AI Wayne''' transcribe his notes to proper meeting minutes
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==== Mentoring ====
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* Wayne: We still have some challenge with mentoring - will need to talk in a follow-up meeting
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* Eclipse Che
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==== Welcome New Members ====
 
==== Welcome New Members ====
 
* Tyler Jewell representing strategic member CodeEnvy
 
* Tyler Jewell representing strategic member CodeEnvy
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* Time to prune some members that have been dormant for long ?
 
* Time to prune some members that have been dormant for long ?
  
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=== General Topics ===
 
=== General Topics ===
  

Revision as of 11:57, 14 April 2016

Meeting Title: Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time: Thursday Apr 14, 2016 at 1100 Ottawa
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Dial-in: Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call:
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  • Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) 49-692-2224-6059
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  • Spain, Sweden, others - see Asterisk/Numbers

Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968

  • SIP clients can call 701@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 51968.

Attendees

All AC Members are invited.

  • PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: Wenfeng Li Wenbin He
DTP: Brian Payton Linda Chan
Eclipse: Dani Megert Mike Wilson
Modeling: Ed Merks Cédric Brun
Eike Stepper
Mylyn: Steffen Pingel Mik Kersten
RT: Christian Campo Tom Watson
Doug Clarke
Ian Bull
SOA: Adrian Mos Marc Dutoo
Technology: Gunnar Wagenknecht Wayne Beaton
Tools: Doug Schaefer
WTP: Chuck Bridgham Neil Hauge
LocationTech: Jim Hughes

All Attendees

  • In attendance: Eike, Matthias, Lars, Martin, Dani, Jim Hughes, Krum Tsvetkov, Maximilian Koegel, Julien (IoT PMC), Marcel Bruch, Wayne Beaton, Doug Schaefer
  • Regrets:


Agenda / Notes

  • Feel free to edit, but not during the call!

Review of Last Meeting

New Topics

  • Feel free to fill in, but not during the meeting :)

Welcome New Members

  • Jim Hughes joining for LocationTech
    • Mathematician working as a Software Developer, interested in Math underpinnings of GMaza (in the Hadoop Ecosystem)
    • Getting that project through the EMO's IP Review, been doing some other work on Locationtech
    • Started SFCurve, for distributed indexing; also got a proposal for GeoBench
  • Julien Damien
    • Working for Sierra Wireless - security expert (authentication, encryption, ...)
    • Project lead for lightweight M2M and committer on Wakaama and Californium

Wayne: New Member proposals

Trademarks

  • Want to get more consistent usage of the term "Eclipse" on homepages, and especially external websites (like Mosquito.org or Github)
  • Want a public transparent discussion
  • Jim: Dealing with the Eclipse.org homepage was problematic so far, external organizations have been easier to deal with

Lars: Mattermost Channel during meetings

  • AI Wayne and Martin to join mattermost during discussions

FEEP Work

  • Missing a public list of work being worked on (as per message from Dani) - AI Wayne check with Paul
    • Eclipse PMC was taken by surprise at some work happening - need to ensure there are committer resources for reviewing
    • Would need a better channel for communication
    • Mickael would be in a better position to discuss
    • Lars: One obvious missing piece is asking projects, if projects actually want the work requested by the AC ?
    • Wayne: FEEP should not be different than any other contribution - follow existing models
  • Many list of items not claimed yet -- any need to change anything on the process ?
    • Wayne: AC did exactly what they were asked to
    • Suggest a forum with Paul and Mickael, how to better define work that people can reasonably do
  • Should the EMO put more focus on sustainable solutions: going the extra mile to do it right
    • Wayne: should not be different than
    • Somebody who takes FEEP funding still has to play by the rules;
    • Doug: Need to manage expectations on what we get out of the program .. as well as what bidders can get
    • Martin so it sounds like there are learnings for now:
      • It's aceeptable for a project to reject a FEEP contribution if it doesn't satisfy quality needs
      • Projects should review proposals early and add constraints where necessary - in order to help bidders estimate size of the work
  • AI Wayne suggest meeting time and invite interested parties
  • Julien: as FEEP is primarily for IDE, why is it an AC topic and not a PMC one ?
    • Doug: AC is across all the projects ... don't have the IDE body (yet) but would probably need it
    • Martin: Keep AC as a "wide" body of attendees, fork out to subgroups as needed

Great Fixes for Neon

  • Wayne queried the Git commit index to find contributions; will announce first 2 winners soon

EclipseCon F2F =

  • The Google Hangout worked so-so for Marcel and Martin
  • Wayne: Concept was OK but need to work on the technology
  • AI Wayne transcribe his notes to proper meeting minutes

Mentoring

  • Wayne: We still have some challenge with mentoring - will need to talk in a follow-up meeting
  • Eclipse Che


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