Logistics
Meeting Title:
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Planning Council Conference Call
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Date & Time:
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Wednesday, September 2, 2015, at 1200 Noon Eastern
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Dial in:
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(See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, potential new numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)
Phone Numbers: (Check Asterisk/Numbers for more or current phone numbers.)
- For all phone lines: Participant conference extension: 710 then enter pin 35498
- Ottawa (local call in Ottawa) 1-613-454-1403
- North America (toll free) 1-866-569-4992
- Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) +49-692-2224-6059
- France (local call anywhere in France) +33-17-070-8535
- UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806
- Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
- call 710@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 35498.
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Members and Attendees
PMC (and Strategic) Reps
John Arthorne (occasional)
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Cloud (PMC)
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Chris Aniszczyk
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Technology (PMC)
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Dani Megert
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Eclipse (PMC)
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Sam Davis
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Mylyn (ALM) PMC
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Brian Payton
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Datatools (PMC)
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Doug Schaefer
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Tools (PMC)
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Adrian Mos (Marc Dutoo )
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SOA (PMC)
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Ed Merks
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Modeling (PMC)
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Ian Bull
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Rt (PMC)
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Chuck Bridgham
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WTP (PMC)
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Wayne Beaton
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Eclipse Foundation (appointed)
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David Williams
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(appointed Chair)
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Strategic Reps
Nick Boldt
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Redhat (Strategic Developer)
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Remi Schnekenburger
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CEA List (Strategic Developer)
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Cedric Brun
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OBEO (Strategic Developer)
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Neil Hauge
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Oracle (Strategic Developer)
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Stephan Merker
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SAP AG (Strategic Developer)
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Markus Knauer
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Innoopract (Strategic Developer)
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Rajeev Dayal
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Google (Strategic Developer)
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(PMC rep)
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Actuate (Strategic Developer)
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X
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(PMC rep)
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IBM (Strategic Developer)
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X
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Inactive
[no name]
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CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer)
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X
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[no name]
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Birt (PMC)
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X
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Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.
Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record.
Y = Yes, attended
N = No, did not
R = regrets sent ahead of time
D = delegated
X = not expected
Announcements
- Welcome Sam Davis as new (official) PC rep from Mylyn (ALM) PMC; and thanks to Steffen Pingel for his years of service.
Previous meeting minutes
- Review previous meeting minutes if you'd like. That is, review them before meeting, but if questions or issues with previous minutes, this would be a good time to bring them up.
Mars Planning
- Mini Mars.1 retrospective:
Neon Planning
- - Neon's 2016 Milestone Dates (M5, M6, M7, and RCs)
- - Neon's Update Release Dates
- At meeting on last meeting it was decided to 3 update releases (instead of current 2), and have them approximately equally spaced:
- June (3) September (3) December (3) March [(3) June]
- Off-cycle "hot fix" releases/patches.
- One proposal: have all features in EPP packages be "root features" and establish a procedure of adding new code to the Sim. Release repository "at any time" -- for "hot fixes" only ... after review/approval by Planning Council?
- AND, change p2? to "not allow" addition of reference repositories during feature installs.
- (Would likely have to be a "product preference" since some adopters may depend on that feature, but EPP could "set" the preference).
- Easy for me to say "change p2" :) but ... who would do the work?
- This "reference repositories issue" was a discussed as a concern at Architecture Council
- Apparently there have been cases of users getting "mixed" installs, because reference repositories are sometimes very broad. [I hope I've captured that issue correctly, I was not there, so please correct if I read it wrong.]
- Does Oomph solve this problem at all? Does it have a possible solution?
- - [ACTION ITEM from previous meeting] Wayne took as a "to do" item, to check with IP staff if a CQ deadline should be set for update releases.
- - Cons (probably not needed): there are few new ones, every one knows the limits
- - Pros (would be helpful): helps set expectations of committers and new contributors on how much can be done, by when.
- (Though, still varies a lot, if "all new" large contribution, vs. piggy back CQ)
New Business
Next Meeting
- November 4, 2015 - Regular First Wednesday Meeting
Reference
- 2013 EclipseCon face-to-face follow-through action items. For original meeting notes, see Planning_Council/March_24_2013 and for discussion leading to action items, see Planning_Council/April_10_2013. For last status update, see Planning_Council/May_8_2013.
- Mars Wiki page
- Planning Council Members
- Simultaneous Release Roles and Simultaneous Release Roles/EMO