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− | + | * '''Signed-up:''' Chris Aniszczyk, Wayne Beaton, Linda Chan, Achim Loerke, Ed Merks, Kim Moir, Martin O, Andrew Overholt, Steffen Pingel, Doug Schaefer, Mike Wilson, | |
− | * '''Signed-up:''' Chris Aniszczyk, Wayne Beaton, | + | * '''Regrets:''' Oliver Cole (standing conflict), Wenfeng Li (standing conflict), Doug Clarke, Neil Hauge (vacation), Tom Schindl, Tom Watson, David Williams |
− | * '''Regrets:''' Oliver Cole (standing conflict), Wenfeng Li (standing conflict) | + | * '''No-Show:''' John Arthorne, Boris Bokowski, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, Christian Campo, Dave Carver, Eugene Chan, Tim deBoer, Oisin Hurley, Kenn Hussey, Mik Kersten, Markus Knauer, Bernd Kolb, Jeff McAffer, Mike Milinkovich, Brian Payton, Pascal Rapicault, Mary Ruddy, Michael Scharf, Darin Swanson, Antoine Toulme, Gunnar Wagenknecht, Jonathan West, Oliver Wolf, Gary Xue |
− | * '''No-Show:''' John Arthorne, Boris Bokowski, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, | + | |
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== Agenda / Notes == | == Agenda / Notes == | ||
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=== New Topics === | === New Topics === | ||
+ | * Wayne: {{bug|337004}} and children - Security Policies | ||
+ | * Wayne: {{bug|342328}} and children - EDP changes in response to Bylaw Changes (plus maybe some small additional changes on the way) | ||
+ | * Both must be done by the end of quarter (end June) - draft TBD end April | ||
+ | ** {{bug|342642}} Community Report - Need better understanding (Bylaws Draft?) what the Community Report is supposed to be ? | ||
+ | *** '''AI Wayne''' get drafts available and put on the bug | ||
− | ==== | + | ==== Infrastructure for navigating the Projects ==== |
− | * | + | * Wayne: Help people navigate the projects at Eclipse - need a "Paragraph" from the Projects |
− | * | + | ** Will create webpage based on existing info - asking AC to socialize with Projects, such that they improve their data in the Portal |
+ | ** Goal provide better navigation, eg find linkages between the projects | ||
+ | ** Ed: Keeping just the Modeling stuff / interrelations up-to-date is a fulltime job ... getting some help from itemis | ||
+ | ** Martin: Discussed "tag cloud" based navigation some while back | ||
+ | *** Wayne: typically "tagging" works for a couple months and then | ||
+ | ** Martin: Auto-generating semantic networks / links from fulltext docs - discussed a while back with the SMILA / Brox guys | ||
+ | *** '''AI Wayne''': to get in touch in them, interested gin eating our own dogfood .. might need lots of server power, but our datasets are fairly small | ||
− | ==== | + | ==== Vote Counting ==== |
+ | * Ed: Vote counting for Bylaws - somebody (AC?) to define a process for vote counting - Kim is interested | ||
+ | ** Some ranking is baked into the Bylaws, but it doesn't seem to be fully specified | ||
+ | ** Principle - "Everybody's votes should count equally" - Ed is interested in making a good change | ||
+ | ** '''AI Wayne''' talk to Mike when he returns from his trip, then prepare something, then report back with the AC | ||
− | * | + | ==== CM (git / SVN) ==== |
+ | * There was some discussion about maybe deprecating SVN | ||
+ | ** Wayne: Should be encouraging projects move to git - should be getting projects off CVS | ||
+ | ** State of egit - progressing well | ||
+ | ** zx: Do some Webpage where projects can sign up to migrate, and promote by the AC? | ||
+ | ** Mirroring happens on github - currently some manual work needed when a new repo is added | ||
+ | ** After Indigo is prime time to actually migrate | ||
+ | ** Kim: Read-only CVS for legacy builds after migration | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Maven @ Eclipse progress ==== | ||
+ | * zx: Some work going on contributing a signing plugin contributed to dash project for doing the signing | ||
+ | ** {{bug|339915}} Parent POM - not yet, but signing is the main blocker at the moment | ||
+ | ** {{bug|288644}} name spaces for Maven artifacts - Wayne suggests involving the experts (Dave Carver) | ||
+ | ** Other related bugs {{bug|283745}} and {{bug|337068}} | ||
==== General Topics ==== | ==== General Topics ==== | ||
+ | * Henrik Lindberg ESE proceedings are now online [[WhatIsInABuildESE2010]] | ||
* '''Updating to Latest Version of Libs''' | * '''Updating to Latest Version of Libs''' | ||
** '''AI zx''' Create Indigo report | ** '''AI zx''' Create Indigo report | ||
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* '''News from the Board, EMO and Councils''' | * '''News from the Board, EMO and Councils''' | ||
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=== Old Topics === | === Old Topics === | ||
+ | * Pascal's {{bug|331385}} naming conventions for p2 Repos | ||
* {{bug|324125}} architecture diagrams - [http://www.eclipse.org/org/councils/roadmap_v2_0/AC_v2_0/index.php 2006 version] - relationship to e4 ? | * {{bug|324125}} architecture diagrams - [http://www.eclipse.org/org/councils/roadmap_v2_0/AC_v2_0/index.php 2006 version] - relationship to e4 ? | ||
* '''IP Logs''' - Martin and Wayne - [http://eclipse.org/woolsey/ project woolsey] exists and open for community, Wayne hopes get soemthing downloadable by Christmas | * '''IP Logs''' - Martin and Wayne - [http://eclipse.org/woolsey/ project woolsey] exists and open for community, Wayne hopes get soemthing downloadable by Christmas |
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Contents
Attendees
All AC Members are invited.
- PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: | |
Gary Xue |
DTP: | Brian Payton | Linda Chan |
Eclipse: | Mike Wilson | John Arthorne Boris Bokowski |
Modeling: | Ed Merks | Cédric Brun Sven Efftinge |
Mylyn: | Steffen Pingel | Mik Kersten |
RT: | Jeff McAffer | Tom Watson |
STP: | Antoine Toulme | Oisin Hurley |
Technology: | Gunnar Wagenknecht | Wayne Beaton |
Tools: | Doug Schaefer | |
TPTP: | Jonathan West | |
WTP: | Tim deBoer | Dave Carver Neil Hauge |
- Signed-up: Chris Aniszczyk, Wayne Beaton, Linda Chan, Achim Loerke, Ed Merks, Kim Moir, Martin O, Andrew Overholt, Steffen Pingel, Doug Schaefer, Mike Wilson,
- Regrets: Oliver Cole (standing conflict), Wenfeng Li (standing conflict), Doug Clarke, Neil Hauge (vacation), Tom Schindl, Tom Watson, David Williams
- No-Show: John Arthorne, Boris Bokowski, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, Christian Campo, Dave Carver, Eugene Chan, Tim deBoer, Oisin Hurley, Kenn Hussey, Mik Kersten, Markus Knauer, Bernd Kolb, Jeff McAffer, Mike Milinkovich, Brian Payton, Pascal Rapicault, Mary Ruddy, Michael Scharf, Darin Swanson, Antoine Toulme, Gunnar Wagenknecht, Jonathan West, Oliver Wolf, Gary Xue
Agenda / Notes
- Feel free to edit, but not during the call!
Review of Last Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/March 10 2011
- Still open items moved to #Action_Items
New Topics
- Wayne: bug 337004 and children - Security Policies
- Wayne: bug 342328 and children - EDP changes in response to Bylaw Changes (plus maybe some small additional changes on the way)
- Both must be done by the end of quarter (end June) - draft TBD end April
- bug 342642 Community Report - Need better understanding (Bylaws Draft?) what the Community Report is supposed to be ?
- AI Wayne get drafts available and put on the bug
- bug 342642 Community Report - Need better understanding (Bylaws Draft?) what the Community Report is supposed to be ?
- Wayne: Help people navigate the projects at Eclipse - need a "Paragraph" from the Projects
- Will create webpage based on existing info - asking AC to socialize with Projects, such that they improve their data in the Portal
- Goal provide better navigation, eg find linkages between the projects
- Ed: Keeping just the Modeling stuff / interrelations up-to-date is a fulltime job ... getting some help from itemis
- Martin: Discussed "tag cloud" based navigation some while back
- Wayne: typically "tagging" works for a couple months and then
- Martin: Auto-generating semantic networks / links from fulltext docs - discussed a while back with the SMILA / Brox guys
- AI Wayne: to get in touch in them, interested gin eating our own dogfood .. might need lots of server power, but our datasets are fairly small
Vote Counting
- Ed: Vote counting for Bylaws - somebody (AC?) to define a process for vote counting - Kim is interested
- Some ranking is baked into the Bylaws, but it doesn't seem to be fully specified
- Principle - "Everybody's votes should count equally" - Ed is interested in making a good change
- AI Wayne talk to Mike when he returns from his trip, then prepare something, then report back with the AC
CM (git / SVN)
- There was some discussion about maybe deprecating SVN
- Wayne: Should be encouraging projects move to git - should be getting projects off CVS
- State of egit - progressing well
- zx: Do some Webpage where projects can sign up to migrate, and promote by the AC?
- Mirroring happens on github - currently some manual work needed when a new repo is added
- After Indigo is prime time to actually migrate
- Kim: Read-only CVS for legacy builds after migration
Maven @ Eclipse progress
- zx: Some work going on contributing a signing plugin contributed to dash project for doing the signing
- bug 339915 Parent POM - not yet, but signing is the main blocker at the moment
- bug 288644 name spaces for Maven artifacts - Wayne suggests involving the experts (Dave Carver)
- Other related bugs bug 283745 and bug 337068
General Topics
- Henrik Lindberg ESE proceedings are now online WhatIsInABuildESE2010
- Updating to Latest Version of Libs
- AI zx Create Indigo report
- News from the Board, EMO and Councils
Old Topics
- Pascal's bug 331385 naming conventions for p2 Repos
- bug 324125 architecture diagrams - 2006 version - relationship to e4 ?
- IP Logs - Martin and Wayne - project woolsey exists and open for community, Wayne hopes get soemthing downloadable by Christmas
- Allow projects to file bugs which list collections of libraries that are used for testing (and mark these collectively as exemt prereqs)
- Couldn't distribute those libs or put them in scm, but could have them on the build server
- Allow projects to file bugs which list collections of libraries that are used for testing (and mark these collectively as exemt prereqs)
We need to reduce our bug backlog, by actually coming to a common resolution on some. Here are the most recent ones:
- DaveC would like to discuss New Committer Guidelines; Scrum / Agile techniques
- bug 285074 - Dave Carver - Hudsonbuilder and write access to the cvs / svn repo
- bug 288393 - Denis - Bugzilla Best Practices
- AC Bugzilla backlog
- See also Architecture Council/Open Issues for overflow items that were not discussed
- News from the EMO and Councils ?
Action Items
- Cleaned up old action items, see Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011 for old stuff
- (old) Martin to add Eclipsecon meeting notes onto the wiki
- (old) Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
- Martin revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
- Martin bug 315210 Make the AC mailing list open / moderated