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− | * '''Regrets:''' Wayne Beaton, Dave Carver, Ed Merks (travelling), Tom Schindl (travelling), Darin Swanson, Gunnar Wagenknecht (vacation), Tom Watson (travelling) | + | * '''Regrets:''' Wayne Beaton, Dave Carver, Ed Merks (travelling), Tom Schindl (travelling), Darin Swanson, Gunnar Wagenknecht (vacation), Tom Watson (travelling), Mik Kersten (conflict) |
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* '''Signed-up:''' John Arthorne, Cedric Brun, Eugene Chan, Tim deBoer, Bernd Kolb, Andrew Overholt, Martin O, Brian Payton, Doug Schaefer, Michael Scharf, Gary Xue | * '''Signed-up:''' John Arthorne, Cedric Brun, Eugene Chan, Tim deBoer, Bernd Kolb, Andrew Overholt, Martin O, Brian Payton, Doug Schaefer, Michael Scharf, Gary Xue | ||
− | * '''Regrets:''' Boris Bokowski (Board Meeting Conflict), Oliver Cole (known conflict), Mike Wilson | + | * '''Regrets:''' Boris Bokowski (Board Meeting Conflict), Oliver Cole (known conflict), Mike Wilson |
* '''No-Show:''' Chris Aniszczyk, Nick Boldt, Linda Chan, Doug Clarke, Adrian Colyer, Sven Efftinge, Neil Hauge, Oisin Hurley, Markus Knauer, Wenfeng Li, Jeff McAffer, Mike Milinkovich, Mary Ruddy, Dave Williams, Darin Wright | * '''No-Show:''' Chris Aniszczyk, Nick Boldt, Linda Chan, Doug Clarke, Adrian Colyer, Sven Efftinge, Neil Hauge, Oisin Hurley, Markus Knauer, Wenfeng Li, Jeff McAffer, Mike Milinkovich, Mary Ruddy, Dave Williams, Darin Wright | ||
* Dormant: Sebastian Voigt, Oliver Wolf, | * Dormant: Sebastian Voigt, Oliver Wolf, |
Revision as of 07:49, 14 January 2010
Meeting Title: | Architecture Council Monthly Meeting |
Date & Time: | Thursday January 14, 2010 at 1600 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin HTML | iCal |
Dial-in: | NEW Canada 1-877-727-8553 toll free / 1-416-840-9801 caller paid NEW U.S. 1-866-394-4146 toll free / 1-480-629-1624 caller paid NEW passcode 428029063 |
Contents
Attendees
All AC Members are invited.
- PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.
BIRT: | Wenfeng Li | Gary Xue |
DTP: | Brian Payton | Linda Chan |
DSDP: | Martin Oberhuber | |
Eclipse: | Mike Wilson | John Arthorne |
Modeling: | |
Cédric Brun |
RT: | Jeff McAffer | |
STP: | Oisin Hurley | |
Technology: | |
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Tools: | Doug Schaefer | |
TPTP: | Eugene Chan | |
WTP: | Tim deBoer | |
- Regrets: Wayne Beaton, Dave Carver, Ed Merks (travelling), Tom Schindl (travelling), Darin Swanson, Gunnar Wagenknecht (vacation), Tom Watson (travelling), Mik Kersten (conflict)
Agenda / Notes
- Feel free to edit, but not during the call!
Review of Last Meeting
- Architecture Council/Meetings/December 10 2009
- (old) Tools and Tech PMC's to encourage incubating grandfathered projects find a mentor; mentorless projects due to AC members quitting or falling dormant
- (old) Martin to add Eclipsecon meeting notes onto the wiki
- Martin to file bug for asking Mik hyperlink Wikitext / crowdsourcing Docs handbook on the Architecture Council/Top Ten Project Development Practices page
- Martin Ask PC to think about an "e4 ready" requirement for next year's train
- Martin Ask e4 team to pitch a migration talk at EclipseCon.
- Still open items moved to #Action Items
New Topics
e4 - current state of affairs
- McQ: e4 feels 1 milestone behind where it should be (original goal was self-hosting by Christmas)
- McQ: Look and feel in e4 for the SDK: Susan Franklin created some Markups in bug 293481 please add constructive criticism
- How could AC help / e4 be promoted / early adoption?
git at Eclipse - current state of affairs
- is Git for Committers still up to date with bug 280583 complete for the read-only git of all of Eclipse
- could instructions be simplified for the most common use cases:
- Getting source for a plugin I want to change
- Adding a branch for a patch of mine
- Rebasing my branch to a new milestone
target platform docs
- Today, all searchable documentation is for the development host (e.g. o.e.platform.doc.isv)
- When I develop against multiple target platforms, how can I access correct documentation?
- Sample use cases:
- Use Eclipse 3.6m4 development host but work on the R3_5_maintenance brach as target platform
- WTP: Documentation for the server-side target e.g. servlets
- CDT: Documentation for the C runtime I develop against
- RT/Equinox: Documentation for the target I develop against
- Any known solutions? What are people doing today?
- What could be done from an architectural point of view?
Tracing
- Usage of tracing API (Tim D to discuss)
lnf in e4
Items for next meeting
Regular briefing on the status of e4.
Old Topics
We need to reduce our bug backlog, by actually coming to a common resolution on some. Here are the most recent ones:
- DaveC would like to discuss New Committer Guidelines; Scrum / Agile techniques
- bug 285074 - Dave Carver - Hudsonbuilder and write access to the cvs / svn repo
- bug 288721 - Sonar / Eclemma - Cedric Brun, Dave Carver
- bug 283745 - Maven Repository at Eclipse
- bug 288393 - Denis - Bugzilla Best Practices
- The art of project release naming - no bug yet ?!?
- AC Bugzilla backlog
- See also Architecture Council/Open Issues for overflow items that were not discussed
- News from the EMO and Councils ?
Action Items
- (old) Martin to follow up on Architecture Diagrams idea
- (old) Michael to flesh out the Patterns idea and remind the EAC -- started Architecture Council/Top Ten Recommendations#Design Patterns, backed by EclipseCon tutorial proposals
- While these show how well-known GoF patterns are applied in Eclipse, Michael's idea was more to find and describe new patterns which are specific to Eclipse
- (old) Michael to draft an E-Mail about the "plugin granularity" idea, searching for people to lead the effort
- (old) Mik to create initial "architectural walkthrough" material for Mylyn -- 1 wiki page not too large, send link to the mailing list
- (old) Dave C work with Wayne on a "handbook" for project criteria for becoming a committer (referencing committer guidelines)
- (old) Dave C come up with a document how to save build resources
- (old) Dave C to try bugzilla UNCONFIRMED state
- Wayne to ask Sonatype about Nexus test installation
- Wayne to try doing a 3.6m2 API Report on Helios m2
- Wayne to ask EclipseCon PC/Donald if we can get a room for e4 Hack-a-thon (migration, creating plug-ins, etc.)
- Wayne to discuss "e4 ready" marketing campaign with Ian.
- 'Ed to tell Cloudsmith about bug 283745 Maven