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== Dial-in Info ==
 
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* Dave Russo
 
* Dave Russo
 
* Martin Oberhuber
 
* Martin Oberhuber
* Shigeki Moride
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* Shigeki Moride (absent)
* Christian Kurzke
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* Christian Kurzke (absent)
 
* Mark Rogalski
 
* Mark Rogalski
 
* Pawel Piech (unavailable)
 
* Pawel Piech (unavailable)
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== New Business ==
 
== New Business ==
* (Deferred) Introducing the [http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/vpp/ VPP] proposed project and Mark Burton
 
  
 
* Welcome Dave Russo and RTSC project
 
* Welcome Dave Russo and RTSC project
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* Summary of recent voting
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** DaveRusso
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*** Martin, Pawel, Doug, Shigeki (need:Christian, Mark) - Mark gave his +1 vote on the call
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** RadoslavGerganov
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*** Shigeki, Doug, Martin, Pawel (after meeting) (need:Mark, Christian)
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** DanielFranco
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*** Christian, Doug, Martin, Mark, Shigeki, Pawel (done)
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** MV Contribution
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*** Martin, Mark, Shigeki, Pawel, Dave, Doug (need:Christian)
  
* Incubation rules
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* Upcoming events (not discussed)
** DD needs to get in compliance
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* Ganymede release train
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* DSDP site mainteance
** eRCP - Mark - difficult because they don't have the resources to keep up with milestones.
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** Fabio can ask for commit rights, as can anyone else who wants to maintain the main web page.
** NAB - Shigeki.  Hope to get on the train by M4.  Don't want to use orbit.  #1 test - how much testing do I need to do with other projects?  Need to investigate 5,6,13,14,15.
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* Upcoming events
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* Deferred to next meeting
** [https://developerdays.dev.java.net/ Java Developer Days] - 23-24 Jan
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** '''All: Review revised development process: {{Bug|220871}} [http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php Dev Process Link]'''
*** eRCP paper from Gorkem?
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** '''All: Review standard project plan format discussion {{Bug|215301}}.''' First implementation in June.
** [http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/ EclipseCon 08] - 17-20 Mar
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** EPP package for embedded and mobile development
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** Inactive committers cleanup
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** Search CVS
  
 
* Project Updates
 
* Project Updates
** DD
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** DD (Doug reported for Pawel)
*** Making progress on DSF and GDB/mi - main part of 1.0 code release.
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*** Working on 1.0 in Ganymede.
*** Not getting much from Eclipse Platform in Ganymede. Mostly patches that we submit.
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*** 1.1 release planned for Fall - Ericsson and WR both need.
*** Lots of investment in coordination with CDT.
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*** Disasm view is last major feature.
 
** eRCP
 
** eRCP
*** Finished 1.0.3 maintenance release.  January - another maintenances release: 1.1
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*** 1.2 release coming up in July
*** GTK port was contributed. Nokia is looking at it.
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*** Move to RT project after 1.2 release
*** eRCP standardization - licensing is turning out to be difficult. OSGi - put the spec until EPL, but label it as an OSGi document, so it has some trademark protection. So someone can modify it, but it won't be an OSGi spec anymore. Sprint will be driving this through OSGi. Will be done in January.
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*** Terminal on eRCP - Martin filed a bug to help strip this down. Needs some advice. '''Mark: Please take a look at Martin's bug. {{Bug|168197}}'''
*** Android?
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*** eRCP in OSGi standardization. '''Mark: please organize a call with Ed Cobb, Doug Gaff, Jeff McAfer to discuss board vote on standardization.'''
** MTJ
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*** P3ML in eRCP - still need a call with Philippe Krief. '''Mark: please check in with Philippe on approval for P3ML in eRCP.'''
*** Analyzing the existing source code.  There is a lot they intend to maintain going forward.
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*** Build: native weekly builds post to cvs. After builds are done, hook up with Ted.
*** Last couple of weeks have been quiet.
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*** '''Mark: follow up with Sprint and Prosyst on EPL redistribution requirements as discussed on PMC call.'''
** NAB
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** MTJ (no update)
*** Plans to get on train. Working on builds for M4 now.
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** NAB (no update)
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*** Doug thinks they need to go 1.0. Technology is mature. Transparency issues are partially cultural.
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*** '''Doug: follow up with Shigeki about going to 1.0.'''
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** RTSC
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*** Created last week.
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*** '''Dave: organize an open technical call to follow up on technical questions from the creation review.'''
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*** '''Dave: follow up with TI on EPL and run-time components of RTSC as discussed on PMC call.'''
 
** TM
 
** TM
*** TCF contribution is uploaded to bugzilla. Lots of discussion with ECF lead, Scott Lewis. Not as much overlap as Scott thought.  TCF is a vertical solution for the embedded space. ECF is a horizontal communication layer.
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*** Delay M6 by one week to clean up API. Using new API tooling from SDK.
**** Details at [[DSDP/TM/TCF FAQ]] including links for download and Getting Started
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*** M7 is feature freeze. Still lots of work to do. 50 bugs.
*** Working on integrating terminal with RSE. Student contribution from Francesco Crivelli, Milano, Italy.
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*** WinCE subsystem contribution. Rado will become a committer. Marked as incubation.
*** IBM team started "RSE World" blogging site - great contributions from IBM Student Committer Kevin Doyle.
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*** RSE terminal integration is also in. Working as a prototype right now. Marked as incubation. More bug fixes.
*** IBM is doing a lot of work as well - bug fixes, API work, unit tests. For new API look at build notes of recent TM I-builds.
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*** Open question around dual-license of the TCF agent.
** TmL
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*** Proposed Felix Burton to become a TCF committer, mostly focused on plain C agent. '''Martin: circulate a separate vote for Felix Burton in parallel to TM vote.'''
*** Code contributions submitted to CQ. Doug signed off today after vote last week. Sharon is looking into parallel IP.
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*** Google SoC mentor. Integration of RSE and Platform Team synchronization. Update/download of whole file trees will work. Folder comparison and synchronization in sync view. Student from Japan accepted. 3 hours per day for project. 12 weeks $4500 to student, $500 for mentor. there are 20 slots and 30 projects. Decisions will be decided on Friday. Martin's project is on the edge. Martin is concerned about student's time and responsiveness.
*** Should have enough approval for continuous development.
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** TmL (no update)
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*** Doug relayed Christian's desire to have Eric Cloninger as the new lead for TmL.
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*** '''Christian: nominate Eric as a commiter on Tml using Portal. Also circulate a vote on the PMC to make Eric the TmL lead and to add him to the PMC.'''
  
 
== Old Business ==
 
== Old Business ==
  
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* (Deferred) Introducing the [http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/vpp/ VPP] proposed project and Mark Burton
 
* General stuff
 
* General stuff
 
** NAB: Feedback comes from WS community, which is why dev list is so quiet.  All feedback is in Japanese.  Bugzilla can't work because interface is in English, which is a problem.  '''Doug to follow up with Bjorn and Denis'''
 
** NAB: Feedback comes from WS community, which is why dev list is so quiet.  All feedback is in Japanese.  Bugzilla can't work because interface is in English, which is a problem.  '''Doug to follow up with Bjorn and Denis'''

Latest revision as of 16:29, 17 April 2008

Time

World Clock

Dial-in Info

  • US: 800-741-0846
  • International: 706-679-9532
  • Passcode: 7817182169#

Invited Attendees

  • Dave Russo
  • Martin Oberhuber
  • Shigeki Moride (absent)
  • Christian Kurzke (absent)
  • Mark Rogalski
  • Pawel Piech (unavailable)
  • Doug Gaff

New Business

  • Welcome Dave Russo and RTSC project
  • Summary of recent voting
    • DaveRusso
      • Martin, Pawel, Doug, Shigeki (need:Christian, Mark) - Mark gave his +1 vote on the call
    • RadoslavGerganov
      • Shigeki, Doug, Martin, Pawel (after meeting) (need:Mark, Christian)
    • DanielFranco
      • Christian, Doug, Martin, Mark, Shigeki, Pawel (done)
    • MV Contribution
      • Martin, Mark, Shigeki, Pawel, Dave, Doug (need:Christian)
  • Upcoming events (not discussed)
  • DSDP site mainteance
    • Fabio can ask for commit rights, as can anyone else who wants to maintain the main web page.
  • Deferred to next meeting
    • All: Review revised development process: bug 220871 Dev Process Link
    • All: Review standard project plan format discussion bug 215301. First implementation in June.
    • EPP package for embedded and mobile development
    • Inactive committers cleanup
    • Search CVS
  • Project Updates
    • DD (Doug reported for Pawel)
      • Working on 1.0 in Ganymede.
      • 1.1 release planned for Fall - Ericsson and WR both need.
      • Disasm view is last major feature.
    • eRCP
      • 1.2 release coming up in July
      • Move to RT project after 1.2 release
      • Terminal on eRCP - Martin filed a bug to help strip this down. Needs some advice. Mark: Please take a look at Martin's bug. bug 168197
      • eRCP in OSGi standardization. Mark: please organize a call with Ed Cobb, Doug Gaff, Jeff McAfer to discuss board vote on standardization.
      • P3ML in eRCP - still need a call with Philippe Krief. Mark: please check in with Philippe on approval for P3ML in eRCP.
      • Build: native weekly builds post to cvs. After builds are done, hook up with Ted.
      • Mark: follow up with Sprint and Prosyst on EPL redistribution requirements as discussed on PMC call.
    • MTJ (no update)
    • NAB (no update)
      • Doug thinks they need to go 1.0. Technology is mature. Transparency issues are partially cultural.
      • Doug: follow up with Shigeki about going to 1.0.
    • RTSC
      • Created last week.
      • Dave: organize an open technical call to follow up on technical questions from the creation review.
      • Dave: follow up with TI on EPL and run-time components of RTSC as discussed on PMC call.
    • TM
      • Delay M6 by one week to clean up API. Using new API tooling from SDK.
      • M7 is feature freeze. Still lots of work to do. 50 bugs.
      • WinCE subsystem contribution. Rado will become a committer. Marked as incubation.
      • RSE terminal integration is also in. Working as a prototype right now. Marked as incubation. More bug fixes.
      • Open question around dual-license of the TCF agent.
      • Proposed Felix Burton to become a TCF committer, mostly focused on plain C agent. Martin: circulate a separate vote for Felix Burton in parallel to TM vote.
      • Google SoC mentor. Integration of RSE and Platform Team synchronization. Update/download of whole file trees will work. Folder comparison and synchronization in sync view. Student from Japan accepted. 3 hours per day for project. 12 weeks $4500 to student, $500 for mentor. there are 20 slots and 30 projects. Decisions will be decided on Friday. Martin's project is on the edge. Martin is concerned about student's time and responsiveness.
    • TmL (no update)
      • Doug relayed Christian's desire to have Eric Cloninger as the new lead for TmL.
      • Christian: nominate Eric as a commiter on Tml using Portal. Also circulate a vote on the PMC to make Eric the TmL lead and to add him to the PMC.

Old Business

  • (Deferred) Introducing the VPP proposed project and Mark Burton
  • General stuff
    • NAB: Feedback comes from WS community, which is why dev list is so quiet. All feedback is in Japanese. Bugzilla can't work because interface is in English, which is a problem. Doug to follow up with Bjorn and Denis
    • DSDP Website - dynamic content
    • eclipse.dsdp Newsgroup - dynamic content
    • DSDP Info center
      • Instructions
      • eRCP, NAB, MTJ?
      • AI: eRCP - work on posting info center docs after 1.0 release

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