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*Who/how should we coordinate discussions with key Eclipse folks prior to launch (to start driving awarness in anticipation of the launch)?
 
*Who/how should we coordinate discussions with key Eclipse folks prior to launch (to start driving awarness in anticipation of the launch)?
  
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'''Notes from August 8 2011 launch planning meeting'''
 
  
'''Where to blog about EGL developer-focused topics (not EDT contributor topics)?'''
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'''Notes from August 8 2011 launch planning meeting'''
Leaning towards BlogSpot. developerWorks has infrastructure issues (performance, up-time) and could turn off some developers that would see EDT as "IBM". Need to update EGL Cafe main page to include feeds from Tim Hahn's blog and EDT blog (first), and linked in forums. Next steps: investigate what it takes to create a blog on BlogSpot and how to access feeds programmatically.
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'''Where to blog about EGL developer-focused topics (not EDT contributor topics)?''' Leaning towards BlogSpot. Need to update EGL Cafe main page to include feeds from Tim Hahn's blog and EDT blog (first), and linked in forums. Next steps: investigate what it takes to create a blog on BlogSpot and how to access feeds programmatically.  
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'''Where we we expect developers to ask questions? Existing EDT forum?''' Need to separate committer and consumer discussions. Plan: current EDT forum will be used by consumers/users only. Newsgroup/mailing list will be used by committers. In regards to the Cafe: keep separation between CE/RBD/RME and EDT. Redirect EDT questions posted on the EGL FCafe to the EDT Forum (and vice versa). Need to ask Eclipse how we can add "EDT" to the end of the EDT user forum name (like some other forums). For example: http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/i/1/
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'''How to sign up people to get notified when 0.7 and 1.0 are available? Sign-up form, like we did with CE. Create a simple form (probably Google form) embedded on main EDT page. Ask all existing EGL Cafe members to go register (via EGL Cafe notification and/or blog entry). Send mass email to all CE downloaders and pre-registration'ers informing them of EDT. Could send them to a blog OR send them directly to the EDT page. Post announcements to the LinkedIn group.Theresa to investigate whether we can get the raw list of e-mails, which would allow us to weed out duplicates. '''
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'''What kind of new presence is needed for EGL/EDT on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn's EGL Group, and/or Google+?''' At a minimum, we want a Twitter account that people can follow. Need to show feed on the EDT main page (see Xtext as an example). Need to determine how to leverage IBM / dW (IBM software, Rational software, dWorks) and other Twitter accounts to spread the world.
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'''What technical videos are needed at launch time?''' 1) EGL EDT Hello World (like CE video) - shows end to end process. 2) Database access example (if JPA - show configuration, simple service, simple RUI / Data view) 3) Calling existing JSON/XML service (weather example). get listed on http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/demos/?ca=dti-demostile
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'''What communication channels are available to use by the Eclipse Foundation?''' TBD
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'''What types of education / lunch-n-learn types events need to be scheduled? And how do we drive awareness?''' TBD get listed on http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/demos/?ca=dti-demostile
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'''What changes are needed to the EDT project site? See lots of ideas below.'''
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Better, more obvious description for why somebody should consider EGL with high-level benefit bullets -see http://code.google.com/appengine/ . Consider adding FAQ link here or "Discovery why" - type page (see http://code.google.com/appengine/whyappengine.html )
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*Add Getting Started section to the right side - see http://code.google.com/appengine/
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*Add Download link on the page somewhere
 +
*Create "Dive Deeper" section -- links to more advanced docs, blog,
 +
*Menu --- downlooad, FAQ, Blog, etc
 +
*Get Involved section on right - Follow us on twitter, Post to the forum, Open a bug or enhancement request, Contribute
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*Forum link needs to be more prominent
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*Show Twitter feed (once it's useful) .. also show Twitter stats (number of followers, etc)
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*About could point to Discover Why --- 1) about the project (who, contributors, etc) .. 2) about the technology
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*Watch and Learn on right -- with thumbnail to Hello World (for now) ..
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*Features area on main page -- show Debug, editor (with content assist?), visual editor (with palette)
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*Logos of contributing vendors
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'''Who/how should we coordinate discussions with key Eclipse folks prior to launch (to start driving awareness in anticipation of the launch)?''' TBD
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<br>
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'''Where we we expect developers to ask questions? Existing EDT forum?'''
 
Need to separate committer and consumer discussions. Plan: current EDT forum will be used by consumers/users only. Newsgroup/mailing list will be used by committers. In regards to the Cafe: keep separation between CE/RBD/RME and EDT. Redirect EDT questions posted on the EGL FCafe to the EDT Forum (and vice versa). Need to ask Eclipse how we can add "EDT" to the end of the EDT user forum name (like some other forums). For example: http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/i/1/
 
  
'''How to sign up people to get notified when 0.7 and 1.0 are available? S'''
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'''Documentation page requirements:'''
ign-up form, like we did with CE. Create a simple form (probably Google form) embedded on main EDT page. Ask all existing EGL Cafe members to go register (via EGL Cafe notification and/or blog entry). Send mass email to all CE downloaders and pre-registration'ers informing them of EDT. Could send them to a blog OR send them directly to the EDT page. Post announcements to the LinkedIn group.Theresa to investigate whether we can get the raw list of e-mails, which would allow us to weed out duplicates.
+
  
'''What kind of new presence is needed for EGL/EDT on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn's EGL Group, and/or Google+?'''
+
*Getting started --- downloads, basic steps, system requirements, etc
At a minimum, we want a Twitter account that people can follow. Need to show feed on the EDT main page (see Xtext as an example).
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*Developers guide (Saul's reference guide)
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*Tutorials links
 +
*Videos thumbnails
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*Link to FAQ
  
'''What technical videos are needed at launch time?'''
 
1) EGL EDT Hello World (like CE video) - shows end to end process. 2) Database access example (if JPA - show configuration, simple service, simple RUI / Data view) 3) Calling existing JSON/XML service (weather example).
 
  
What communication channels are available to use by the Eclipse Foundation?
 
  
What types of education / lunch-n-learn types events need to be scheduled? And how do we drive awareness?
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'''Other stuff:'''
  
What changes are needed to the EDT project site? See lots of ideas below.
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*Need better navigation in EDT wiki --- hard to get back to main EDT page or parent page. Need the ability to customize the left-hand side.
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*Question: what is the name for the twitter account, Blog name, etc&nbsp;?? epsionnews&nbsp;?? Common to put "news" after&nbsp;?
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*See: http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/spreadtheword/
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*Show RSS feeds, etc in EGL IDE .. maybe under a Help menu action.
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*General EDT web page navigation updates needed: http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/doc/egl/
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*Comments on EDT web site -- like Xtext? How to enable this?
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*Installation instructions needed on EDT download page - yes. With detailed system requirements (like https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home/wiki/W75c8733d99bb_4d55_9ee8_4dbc8c56ebee/page/System%20requirements%20and%20supporting%20software?lang=en_US )
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*Need How to get started section on EDT page -- like Google projects ...
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*EDT web site needs brain-dead simple
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*EDT FAQ page -- https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home?lang=en_US#/wiki/W75c8733d99bb_4d55_9ee8_4dbc8c56ebee/page/FAQs .better example: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home?lang=en_US#/wiki/W75c8733d99bb_4d55_9ee8_4dbc8c56ebee/page/EGL%20Community%20Edition%20FAQ
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*De-marketing CE ... pulling down web sites, essentially it's an end of market.
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*Setup meet-ups in various key locations (RTP, Austin, NYC) - http://www.cavesofice.org/~badger/triangle/groups.html
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*Create LinkedIn group
  
Who/how should we coordinate discussions with key Eclipse folks prior to launch (to start driving awareness in anticipation of the launch)?
 
  
'''Other stuff:'''
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'''Blog ideas'''
Need better navigation in EDT wiki --- hard to get back to main EDT page or parent page. Need the ability to customize the left-hand side.
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*closing in on our first release (info and pointers to info that's out there) - Matt
Question: what is the name for the twitter account, Blog name, etc ??  epsionnews ?? Common to put "news" after ??
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*Comparison to Google Dart - Will, Brian, or Tim
See: http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/spreadtheword/  
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*What differentiates EGL (what makes it special) - Will or Tim
Other thoughts;
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*Latest from the scrum (weekly or at milestones) - Matt
Show RSS feeds, etc in EGL IDE .. maybe under a Help menu action.
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*RBD differences (higher level) - Brian, Jing
Geneal EDT web page navigation updates needed: http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/epsilon/doc/egl/
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*New project wizard - Will
Comments on EDT web site -- like Xtext? How to enable this.
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*Database stuff - Tim
Installation instructions needed on EDT download page - yes. With detailed system requirements (like https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home/wiki/W75c8733d99bb_4d55_9ee8_4dbc8c56ebee/page/System%20requirements%20and%20supporting%20software?lang=en_US )
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*Jetty server for dev/test - Justin
Need How to get started section on EDT page -- like Google projects ...
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*Dude, where's my build descriptor?  Brian, Joe, Tony
EDT web site needs brain-dead simple
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*content assist - xiaobin
EDT FAQ page -- https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home?lang=en_US#/wiki/W75c8733d99bb_4d55_9ee8_4dbc8c56ebee/page/FAQs  .better example: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home?lang=en_US#/wiki/W75c8733d99bb_4d55_9ee8_4dbc8c56ebee/page/EGL%20Community%20Edition%20FAQ
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*quick fix - xiaobin
De-marketing CE ... pulling down web sites, essentially it's an EOM.
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*Names - Will
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*Native mobile - Brian
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*Testing (what we support, what can people help test, how to open bugs/enhancements, etc) - Jing
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*Intro/overview webcast - Will
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*General announcement - Lisa
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*Press on egl - Will

Latest revision as of 04:18, 25 November 2011

We need to resolve the following questions over the next few weeks, in preparation for the planned 0.7 release in September:


  • Where to blog about EGL developer-focused topics (not EDT contributor topics)?
  • Where we we expect developers to ask questions? Existing EDT forum?
  • How to sign up people to get notified when 0.7 and 1.0 are available? Sign-up form, like we did with CE?
  • What kind of new presence is needed for EGL/EDT on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn's EGL Group, and/or Google+?
  • What technical videos are needed at launch time? 
  • What communication channels are available to use by the Eclipse Foundation?
  • What types of education / lunch-n-learn types events need to be scheduled? And how do we drive awareness?
  • What changes are needed to the EDT project site? 
  • Who/how should we coordinate discussions with key Eclipse folks prior to launch (to start driving awarness in anticipation of the launch)?



Notes from August 8 2011 launch planning meeting

Where to blog about EGL developer-focused topics (not EDT contributor topics)? Leaning towards BlogSpot. Need to update EGL Cafe main page to include feeds from Tim Hahn's blog and EDT blog (first), and linked in forums. Next steps: investigate what it takes to create a blog on BlogSpot and how to access feeds programmatically.

Where we we expect developers to ask questions? Existing EDT forum? Need to separate committer and consumer discussions. Plan: current EDT forum will be used by consumers/users only. Newsgroup/mailing list will be used by committers. In regards to the Cafe: keep separation between CE/RBD/RME and EDT. Redirect EDT questions posted on the EGL FCafe to the EDT Forum (and vice versa). Need to ask Eclipse how we can add "EDT" to the end of the EDT user forum name (like some other forums). For example: http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/i/1/

How to sign up people to get notified when 0.7 and 1.0 are available? Sign-up form, like we did with CE. Create a simple form (probably Google form) embedded on main EDT page. Ask all existing EGL Cafe members to go register (via EGL Cafe notification and/or blog entry). Send mass email to all CE downloaders and pre-registration'ers informing them of EDT. Could send them to a blog OR send them directly to the EDT page. Post announcements to the LinkedIn group.Theresa to investigate whether we can get the raw list of e-mails, which would allow us to weed out duplicates.

What kind of new presence is needed for EGL/EDT on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn's EGL Group, and/or Google+? At a minimum, we want a Twitter account that people can follow. Need to show feed on the EDT main page (see Xtext as an example). Need to determine how to leverage IBM / dW (IBM software, Rational software, dWorks) and other Twitter accounts to spread the world.

What technical videos are needed at launch time? 1) EGL EDT Hello World (like CE video) - shows end to end process. 2) Database access example (if JPA - show configuration, simple service, simple RUI / Data view) 3) Calling existing JSON/XML service (weather example). get listed on http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/demos/?ca=dti-demostile

What communication channels are available to use by the Eclipse Foundation? TBD

What types of education / lunch-n-learn types events need to be scheduled? And how do we drive awareness? TBD get listed on http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/demos/?ca=dti-demostile

What changes are needed to the EDT project site? See lots of ideas below.

Better, more obvious description for why somebody should consider EGL with high-level benefit bullets -see http://code.google.com/appengine/ . Consider adding FAQ link here or "Discovery why" - type page (see http://code.google.com/appengine/whyappengine.html )

  • Add Getting Started section to the right side - see http://code.google.com/appengine/
  • Add Download link on the page somewhere
  • Create "Dive Deeper" section -- links to more advanced docs, blog,
  • Menu --- downlooad, FAQ, Blog, etc
  • Get Involved section on right - Follow us on twitter, Post to the forum, Open a bug or enhancement request, Contribute
  • Forum link needs to be more prominent
  • Show Twitter feed (once it's useful) .. also show Twitter stats (number of followers, etc)
  • About could point to Discover Why --- 1) about the project (who, contributors, etc) .. 2) about the technology
  • Watch and Learn on right -- with thumbnail to Hello World (for now) ..
  • Features area on main page -- show Debug, editor (with content assist?), visual editor (with palette)
  • Logos of contributing vendors


Who/how should we coordinate discussions with key Eclipse folks prior to launch (to start driving awareness in anticipation of the launch)? TBD



Documentation page requirements:

  • Getting started --- downloads, basic steps, system requirements, etc
  • Developers guide (Saul's reference guide)
  • Tutorials links
  • Videos thumbnails
  • Link to FAQ


Other stuff:


Blog ideas

  • closing in on our first release (info and pointers to info that's out there) - Matt
  • Comparison to Google Dart - Will, Brian, or Tim
  • What differentiates EGL (what makes it special) - Will or Tim
  • Latest from the scrum (weekly or at milestones) - Matt
  • RBD differences (higher level) - Brian, Jing
  • New project wizard - Will
  • Database stuff - Tim
  • Jetty server for dev/test - Justin
  • Dude, where's my build descriptor? Brian, Joe, Tony
  • content assist - xiaobin
  • quick fix - xiaobin
  • Names - Will
  • Native mobile - Brian
  • Testing (what we support, what can people help test, how to open bugs/enhancements, etc) - Jing
  • Intro/overview webcast - Will
  • General announcement - Lisa
  • Press on egl - Will

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