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== Invited Attendees == | == Invited Attendees == | ||
| − | * IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal | + | * IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kevin Doyle |
* Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton | * Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton | ||
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* ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov | * ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov | ||
* MontaVista - Anna Dushistova | * MontaVista - Anna Dushistova | ||
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This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only). | ||
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| + | * Attendees: Martin, Uwe, DaveM, Kevin, Xuan | ||
| + | * Regrets: Anna, DaveD, Rado, Michael, Eugene, Felix | ||
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| + | == Notes == | ||
* Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Jul-2008]] | * Last meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Jul-2008]] | ||
* Prev meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008]] | * Prev meeting: [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008]] | ||
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=== '''New Stuff''' === | === '''New Stuff''' === | ||
| + | * {{Bug|240991}} Startup creates Display on Worker Thread | ||
| + | ** DaveM: RSEUIPlugin.start() is not on the Main thread! Seems to be reproducable when Eclipse is "Restarted" rather than "Started". Issue is hit because Logger is instantiated from RSEUIPlugin.start(), registers Preference / ModelChangeEvent, which leads to DaveD's workaround for {{Bug|227750}} to fail | ||
| + | ** Martin: How is the backtrace (Restart) created? Even the intended fix (using a non-UI IRSEInteractionProvider) would not fix this | ||
| + | ** Uwe: Swing/SWT Integration? Is any plugin directly using Bundle.loadClass? That's dangerous since it changes the startlevel | ||
| + | ** Martin: Could instantiation of the Logger be deferred from RSEUIPlugin.start() to somewhere else (later)? | ||
| + | ** People are concerned about using Display.getDefault() -- using IWorkbench.getDisplay() is recommended instead (or, use PlatformUI.isWorkbenchRunning()) | ||
| + | ** '''AI DaveM''' Comment on Bugzilla what is done in the debuggee to get the backtrace on StartLevelEventThread (Martin cannot reproduce) | ||
| + | ** '''AI DaveM''' Try to instantiate the Logger later, or at least try deferring addition of the ModelChangeListeners | ||
| + | ** '''AI Martin''' Write the real fix (interaction providers) mid August | ||
| − | + | * {{Bug|240998}} Extension Point for User Actions | |
| − | * {{Bug| | + | ** Kevin: EP used to add compile commands -- will eventually want to get rid of this extension point, will look at workarounds - '''AI Kevin''' mark bug as INVALID or WONTFIX |
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| − | + | * {{Bug|238574}} '''Website Revamp''' | |
| − | * ''' | + | ** '''AI Martin''' ask the Community (Remy, Nick) |
| − | + | * Unittests | |
| − | * ''' | + | ** Martin added "soft disable" capability for Unittests -- when writing new tests, please add the if(isTestDisabled()) return; |
| − | * | + | ** Multi-Target: RSEFileStoreTest and FileServiceTest; |
| + | ** Xuan: Kevin trying some Abbot stuff, might contribute -- Abbot is under CPL | ||
| + | ** '''AI Martin''' New build driver -- deadline Jul/31 | ||
| + | ** Xuan: Want to release themselves | ||
| + | *** '''AI Martin''' Add M-build Cronjob for Tue 0600 Ottawa time | ||
| + | *** Relengtool: [http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.4-200806172000/index.php#org.eclipse.releng Download] | ||
| + | *** '''AI Xuan''' Release yourself - Process: Select plugins to release, right-click > Team > Release '''Be sure to not release inconsistent stuff''', i.e. fixes that depend on other stuff that you're not releasing | ||
| + | ** {{Bug|230917}} [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- '''AI Xuan''' look at | ||
| + | ** New Build System due Jul 31 ('''AI Martin''') | ||
| − | * ' | + | * Findbugs and other cleanup |
| − | ** | + | ** Broken Links in Docs: Xenu's LinkSleuth |
| + | ** Xuan: DVT, {{bug|240940}}, {{bug|240972}} high priority fixes - '''AI DaveM''' address | ||
| − | * | + | * 3.1 Plan |
| − | ** | + | ** Martin marked some bugzilla items with "plan" keyword |
| − | ** | + | ** '''AI Everyone''' attach "plan" keyword to "interesting" i.e. larger or important bugs, until end July |
| + | ** DSDP presentation to the Board on Sep 17, IBM wants to review the draft, '''AI Martin''' check, '''AI Xuan''' check deadline | ||
== Vacation, away == | == Vacation, away == | ||
| − | * Martin vacation | + | * Martin vacation Jul 21-22, on and off on Thurs and Fri Jul 17-18 |
| − | * DaveM vacation | + | * DaveM vacation first week of August |
* DaveD in July | * DaveD in July | ||
| + | * Anna in July | ||
== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
| − | * [[ | + | * [[#Notes|Last Meeting]] Action Items |
| − | * '''Everyone''': | + | * '''Everyone''': attach "plan" keyword to "interesting" bugs for 3.1 '''until end July''' |
| − | + | * '''Anna''': | |
| − | + | * '''DaveD''': | |
| − | + | * '''DaveM''': {{bug|240991}}: comment on bug how the backtrace is created in the debugger, try registering logger events later; DVT {{bug|240940}}, {{bug|240972}} fix; '''old:''' commit {{bug|199596}}; {{bug|233480}} - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension | |
| − | + | * '''Kevin''': {{bug|240998}} compile commands extension point mark INVALID or WONTFIX | |
| − | * '''DaveD''': | + | * '''Xuan''': Get Releng tool and release fixes yourself for bi-weekly M-builds; check deadline for PMC Board Presentation review; '''old''' Look at {{Bug|230917}} Archive Handler Unittests |
| − | * '''DaveM''': | + | * '''Martin''': Cronjob for Tue 0600 M-builds; {{bug|238574}} Website ask for Community Help; new Builder '''until end July'''; {{bug|227750}} Display in non-UI write fix '''until mid August'''; '''old''' Run performance tests for {{bug|233461}}; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Update Project Plan; File new bug for {{bug|165171}}; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan |
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| − | * '''Martin''': Run performance tests for {{bug|233461}}; Test 2.0->3.0 Update | + | |
* '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS | * '''Javier''': Hi-PRI FTP BUGS | ||
| − | * '''Michael''': Terminal: | + | * '''Michael''': Terminal: Work on {{bug|185348}} Terminal API |
* '''Uwe''': - | * '''Uwe''': - | ||
* '''Rado''': - | * '''Rado''': - | ||
Latest revision as of 12:27, 16 July 2008
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Wednesday July 16, 2008 at 1600 UTC / 0900 SFO / 1100 Rochester / 1200 Toronto / 1800 Salzburg |
| Dial-in: | Martin to call everybody by Skype |
Backup dial-in: International +44 (0)1452 567588 / Freephone +1 (866) 6161738 / UK 08712460713 / Passcode: 0587322148 #
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype dial-in: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kevin.j.doyle, xuan.chen886, rupen.mardirossian, javier.montalvoorus, eugenetarassov, michael_scharf, uwe.stieber, radoslav.gerganov, wrsfburton.
Contents
Invited Attendees
- IBM - Xuan Chen, Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kevin Doyle
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Michael Scharf, Uwe Stieber, Eugene Tarassov, Felix Burton
- ProSyst - Radoslav Gerganov
- MontaVista - Anna Dushistova
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Attendees
- Attendees: Martin, Uwe, DaveM, Kevin, Xuan
- Regrets: Anna, DaveD, Rado, Michael, Eugene, Felix
Notes
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-Jul-2008
- Prev meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 9-Jun-2008
- Skype Call Quality
New Stuff
- bug 240991 Startup creates Display on Worker Thread
- DaveM: RSEUIPlugin.start() is not on the Main thread! Seems to be reproducable when Eclipse is "Restarted" rather than "Started". Issue is hit because Logger is instantiated from RSEUIPlugin.start(), registers Preference / ModelChangeEvent, which leads to DaveD's workaround for bug 227750 to fail
- Martin: How is the backtrace (Restart) created? Even the intended fix (using a non-UI IRSEInteractionProvider) would not fix this
- Uwe: Swing/SWT Integration? Is any plugin directly using Bundle.loadClass? That's dangerous since it changes the startlevel
- Martin: Could instantiation of the Logger be deferred from RSEUIPlugin.start() to somewhere else (later)?
- People are concerned about using Display.getDefault() -- using IWorkbench.getDisplay() is recommended instead (or, use PlatformUI.isWorkbenchRunning())
- AI DaveM Comment on Bugzilla what is done in the debuggee to get the backtrace on StartLevelEventThread (Martin cannot reproduce)
- AI DaveM Try to instantiate the Logger later, or at least try deferring addition of the ModelChangeListeners
- AI Martin Write the real fix (interaction providers) mid August
- bug 240998 Extension Point for User Actions
- Kevin: EP used to add compile commands -- will eventually want to get rid of this extension point, will look at workarounds - AI Kevin mark bug as INVALID or WONTFIX
- bug 238574 Website Revamp
- AI Martin ask the Community (Remy, Nick)
- Unittests
- Martin added "soft disable" capability for Unittests -- when writing new tests, please add the if(isTestDisabled()) return;
- Multi-Target: RSEFileStoreTest and FileServiceTest;
- Xuan: Kevin trying some Abbot stuff, might contribute -- Abbot is under CPL
- AI Martin New build driver -- deadline Jul/31
- Xuan: Want to release themselves
- AI Martin Add M-build Cronjob for Tue 0600 Ottawa time
- Relengtool: Download
- AI Xuan Release yourself - Process: Select plugins to release, right-click > Team > Release Be sure to not release inconsistent stuff, i.e. fixes that depend on other stuff that you're not releasing
- bug 230917 [regression] Some DStore Archive Testcases fail -- AI Xuan look at
- New Build System due Jul 31 (AI Martin)
- Findbugs and other cleanup
- Broken Links in Docs: Xenu's LinkSleuth
- Xuan: DVT, bug 240940, bug 240972 high priority fixes - AI DaveM address
- 3.1 Plan
- Martin marked some bugzilla items with "plan" keyword
- AI Everyone attach "plan" keyword to "interesting" i.e. larger or important bugs, until end July
- DSDP presentation to the Board on Sep 17, IBM wants to review the draft, AI Martin check, AI Xuan check deadline
Vacation, away
- Martin vacation Jul 21-22, on and off on Thurs and Fri Jul 17-18
- DaveM vacation first week of August
- DaveD in July
- Anna in July
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everyone: attach "plan" keyword to "interesting" bugs for 3.1 until end July
- Anna:
- DaveD:
- DaveM: bug 240991: comment on bug how the backtrace is created in the debugger, try registering logger events later; DVT bug 240940, bug 240972 fix; old: commit bug 199596; bug 233480 - tell the team to use custom newConnectionWizards extension
- Kevin: bug 240998 compile commands extension point mark INVALID or WONTFIX
- Xuan: Get Releng tool and release fixes yourself for bi-weekly M-builds; check deadline for PMC Board Presentation review; old Look at bug 230917 Archive Handler Unittests
- Martin: Cronjob for Tue 0600 M-builds; bug 238574 Website ask for Community Help; new Builder until end July; bug 227750 Display in non-UI write fix until mid August; old Run performance tests for bug 233461; Test 2.0->3.0 Update; Update Project Plan; File new bug for bug 165171; Critical EFS bugs; Finish new Releng and tell DaveD; Get started on New&Noteworthy; Create an initial 3.1 plan
- Javier: Hi-PRI FTP BUGS
- Michael: Terminal: Work on bug 185348 Terminal API
- Uwe: -
- Rado: -
- Felix: -
- Eugene: -